Blood Bowl News & Rumors: Gnome Team pg 167

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**Yodhrin**

His Master's Voice wrote:
Both teams consist of 12 players. Both sprues have to fit six models. That, and the human sprue has space wasted compared to the orc one.

I guess they really wanted those undercut under the shoulder pads.

Oh my mistake, I thought it was uneven.

**Vain**

Not really seeing the issue with the Human's bodies.
The Orcs needed more pieces because they have lark spikes everywhere and that means more of a difficult split due to the nature of the undercuts.

Complaining that the 3 piece models are not as cool as the 4 piece models are pretty small potatoes in my book.

Also, are we confirmed that it is legit 2 frames of each?
That means we are getting 10 Balls, 4 coin tokens and 2 Human/Orc fist icons. That seems somewhat overkill.

**Theophony**

Vain wrote:
Not really seeing the issue with the Human's bodies.
The Orcs needed more pieces because they have lark spikes everywhere and that means more of a difficult split due to the nature of the undercuts.

Complaining that the 3 piece models are not as cool as the 4 piece models are pretty small potatoes in my book.

Also, are we confirmed that it is legit 2 frames of each?
That means we are getting 10 Balls, 4 coin tokens and 2 Human/Orc fist icons. That seems somewhat overkill.

Well the human sprue has a thrower and catcher and 4 others on it, you need 11 per team and having 12 is a good idea. The fists could be reroll markers so having at least 2 of each could help. Who couldn't use more balls anyway

**Vain**

I was secretly hoping for a second frame with different sculpts. And I will continue to secretly hope for this until I get a set in my hands.

Including the balls in hands of throwers and catchers we are looking at 16 balls in a double set, and that is incredible.

Looking at the builds I think what GW did with the GS Cult Abominations (or whatever they were called) would have been a good idea. Same monopose body but with two arm choices for slight differentiation

**Bottle**

Yeah the humans suffer slightly with the lack of variety in the poses, but overall everything looks killer. I would quite like to get into this but only if my local GW gets into it in a big way too (I.e. has a pitch set up for games night and runs a league) - considering they didn't do anything for Silver Tower I doubt it though. I will probably put this on a bucket list to buy but I have enough projects on the go currently to keep me more than busy in the meantime.

**Vain**

Bottle, consider having a peek at your local area in various sites (like this) as there is a stupidly strong Bloodbowl scene out there.

You often don't need your local GW to go crazy about it as there are a bunch of people playing local leagues all over the place, and if that is true in Australia with our distance between habitable locations I am sure the UK will be a skaven-nest of secret BB activity.

**Bottle**

Vain wrote:
Bottle, consider having a peek at your local area in various sites (like this) as there is a stupidly strong Bloodbowl scene out there.

You often don't need your local GW to go crazy about it as there are a bunch of people playing local leagues all over the place, and if that is true in Australia with our distance between habitable locations I am sure the UK will be a skaven-nest of secret BB activity.

Thanks for the comment. I am sure there is lots of BB going on around me. There's a Firestorm Games where I live in Newport, the giant one in Cardiff and all the clubs in Bristol where I work, but to be honest my GW remains the most convenient which is why I continue to game there. It is 5mins from my work desk meaning I can get there by 4:35pm on games nights and always guarantee a table to play AoS on.

Bloodbowl does look fun, but I am not sure it's quite to local club altering levels of fun for me

Now, if it was Necromunda...

**AlexHolker**

I wish they were making a female Elf team instead of a male Elf team. None of the six teams getting proper plastic kits interest me.

**Ghaz**

https://www.facebook.com/219720111727104/videos/284379308594517/
More details from the recent Forge World Open Day.

**Sabotage!**

As excited as I am for the new release of Blood Bowl (particularly those Orcs and Skaven), I do have to admit the initial nine offers from FW (Human, Orc, High Elf, Wood Elf, Dark Elf, Elven Nations, Nurgle, Dwarf and Skaven ) are extremely boring.

Really four Elf Teams and no Undead? A specialized Chaos team before a standard one?

I'm sure all the Elf teams and the Nurgle team will look fantastic, but if you are trying to reboot a game, it might make a bit more sense to make the teams a bit more diverse.

**Mr_Rose**

Where did you get that list from?

**Sabotage!**

Mr_Rose wrote:
Where did you get that list from?

Zedmeister posted it in the FW news and rumors thread (page 159) from their chat with the FW team. It seems to mesh up pretty well with what other people have gathered from Games Day a while back as well.

**mdauben**

Sabotage! wrote:
As excited as I am for the new release of Blood Bowl (particularly those Orcs and Skaven), I do have to admit the initial nine offers from FW (Human, Orc, High Elf, Wood Elf, Dark Elf, Elven Nations, Nurgle, Dwarf and Skaven ) are extremely boring.

No Lizardmen? No Undead? No Ogres? No Chaos Dwarfs? The only team on that list that really interests me are (possibly) the Wood Elves, depending on what they look like.

**zedmeister**

Indeed, speaking to the Specialist Games lads, they're keen to get all teams going, but have decided to narrow down the initial run to avoid overwhelming themselves. Remember, they're a team of three who "borrow" other sculptors to get their products done.

He did say that, all in good time, expect Halfing, various flavours of undead, Norse, more Chaos, Chaos Dwarf, even a snotling team!

**Sabotage!**

zedmeister wrote:
Indeed, speaking to the Specialist Games lads, they're keen to get all teams going, but have decided to narrow down the initial run to avoid overwhelming themselves. Remember, they're a team of three who "borrow" other sculptors to get their products done.

He did say that, all in good time, expect Halfing, various flavours of undead, Norse, more Chaos, Chaos Dwarf, even a snotling team!

That's a good point, that would be an awful lot of work for three guys for an initial release (especially one anytime soon). It's good to hear they will be doing other teams in time, I'm more just puzzled on what teams they decided on for the initial offerings. That many Elf teams while leaving out a lot of the classics just doesn't feel very representative of the game.

**bound for glory**

Well, I hope the human catcher is ST3, or the price/skills are changed.

Mean to say, a human catcher is as strong as a halfling/gobbo.

That has long been in need of change...

**mdauben**

Sabotage! wrote:
That's a good point, that would be an awful lot of work for three guys for an initial release (especially one anytime soon). It's good to hear they will be doing other teams in time, I'm more just puzzled on what teams they decided on for the initial offerings. That many Elf teams while leaving out a lot of the classics just doesn't feel very representative of the game.

I agree that they are releasing a nice number of teams, I just question the selection (four elf teams?). Well, I'll still be buying the new box set to get the pitch (something I never had) and the new rules. Not sure if I'll keep the Orc team or sell it off.

**adamsouza**

I was under the impression we were only getting a single "elf" team at release. Assumed they were combined into a single team, like all the other races.

**mdauben**

adamsouza wrote:
I was under the impression we were only getting a single "elf" team at release. Assumed they were combined into a single team, like all the other races.

There used to be separate teams for High, Dark and Wood Elves in the original BB and from what I've heard I would expect the same here. Now, I could see just releasing one of them to start with, and giving some of the other races some love before doubling or tripling down on Elves.

**His Master's Voice**

How popular are Elves compared to every other race in the game? As far as I remember, every league season we played back in the day was Elves and Skaven and more Elves. Dunno if that was, or is, a common trend.

**notprop**

They tend to be rather good in BB, so I'd say very popular.

**Ghaz**

Re these to be in plastic (like the orcs and humans in the box set) or metal/resin?

**notprop**

GW doesn't do metal anymore.

Plastic if it's viable for mass production or resin for FW/SGS for most stuff.

**Ghaz**

There's several metal models still on GW's website, so yes, they 'do metal'.

If all of these Elf teams are plastic, then it would be a simple case of going into CAD and tweaking a core Elf team to make High Elves, Wood Elves, etc.

**Mutter**

Ghaz wrote:
There's several metal models still on GW's website, so yes, they 'do metal'.

Not new stuff, though ...
So they don't 'do' new models in metal, no.

**reds8n**

With the New Season of Blood Bowl approaching, we take a look at some of the new season kits for the most renowned teams in the league. Today, the Averland Knights.

Now, Jim, the Averland Knights have been around for many year's, but have yet to truly earn their place in the imaginations of the fans. Every season, they seem to get so far, before inevitably coming up against their bitter rivals, the Carroburg Crusaders, a team themselves only a bit better than the Knights, but good enough to beat the Knights (which is all that matters to them). This has happened on so many occasions that any match between the two rivals is referred to as the ‘Old Firm Cup’ and is sure to result in an unmatched display of violence, most of it between the fans before the match has even started.

Don’t be fooled by the Knights' noble bearing and tasteful kit, Bob, these guys are bad to the bone. In fact, they’re so bad that their more successful players are often poached by the Evil Gits, although it takes a generous offer indeed to tempt them away from the chance to get stuck in to their rivals, the Crusaders, one more time!

- Jim & Bob

**Yodhrin**

Oh jesus I hope that's a throwaway blurb and they're not actually going to insert a trying-to-be-funny take on the Old Firm rivarly into Bloodbowl o_0

**MeanGreenStompa**

Yodhrin wrote:
Oh jesus I hope that's a throwaway blurb and they're not actually going to insert a trying-to-be-funny take on the Old Firm rivarly into Bloodbowl o_0

In fairness, we've had tongue in cheek references to the siege of Stalingrad and the battle of Rorkes Drift in 40k for a long time, orks were given the language they use in GW worlds because they are based on football hooliganism. Of the many things to sweat over, I don't see this as one.

**Mr_Rose**

Yodhrin wrote:
Oh jesus I hope that's a throwaway blurb and they're not actually going to insert a trying-to-be-funny take on the Old Firm rivarly into Bloodbowl o_0

1. Yes it is
2. Of course they are: every sporting rivalry you can think of has a place in BBWorld.

**Yodhrin**

MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Yodhrin wrote:
Oh jesus I hope that's a throwaway blurb and they're not actually going to insert a trying-to-be-funny take on the Old Firm rivarly into Bloodbowl o_0

In fairness, we've had tongue in cheek references to the siege of Stalingrad and the battle of Rorkes Drift in 40k for a long time, orks were given the language they use in GW worlds because they are based on football hooliganism. Of the many things to sweat over, I don't see this as one.

Historical events and a generic parody of football hooliganism are not the same as an active and recurring violent conflict driven by religious sectarianism. I can stomach comedy references to wars that were over decades before I was born much more easily than I can stomach making light of a serious and ongoing problem in my country that regularly sees people beaten, wives abused, and young girls glassed in the face in the street for wearing the wrong colour of top on the wrong day. The Old Firm is a fething blight, not a jokey wee football thing.

Mr_Rose wrote:
Yodhrin wrote:
Oh jesus I hope that's a throwaway blurb and they're not actually going to insert a trying-to-be-funny take on the Old Firm rivarly into Bloodbowl o_0

1. Yes it is
2. Of course they are: every sporting rivalry you can think of has a place in BBWorld.

See above.