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 Theophony wrote:

 TBD wrote:

Chikout wrote:
The next team will be 'surprising'.

Fishmen

They’ll dedicate resources to the halfling team instead of doing chaos, nurgle, Norse, dark elf or other competitive. (Chaos Dwarf please). It could work if there’s a tree an on the sprue.

If the next team is halflings, I'll die in ecstasy. I'll probably buy a couple of dozens.

 Theophony wrote:

 TBD wrote:

Chikout wrote:
The next team will be 'surprising'.

Fishmen

They’ll dedicate resources to the halfling team instead of doing chaos, nurgle, Norse, dark elf or other competitive. (Chaos Dwarf please). It could work if there’s a tree an on the sprue.

Two treemen in a starting set? Seems a bit unlikely unless they can come up with a design such that you can build one treeman from two identical sets of parts.

It's a shame Lizardmen won't be showing up for a while, having new-style Saurus sculpts, even if only a few, would be brilliant.

If new Lizardmen came out with the same aesthetic as the video game I'd buy like 3 of them. If they were easily convertible to Warhammer models then I'd get like 10 of them so I could convert them in to Saurus regiments.

Saurus are so awesome but the models are so stale and weedy.

If GW aren't going to be doing Lizardmen any time soon, I'm thinking converting some from Kings of War's Salamander regiment might be a way to go. The KoW Salamanders have the bulk that Saurus Warriors should have but the GW Saurus really lack.

It's less the bulk that concerns me(although they could do with being a wee bit heftier) it's the abysmal derpfaces of the old plastics that I can't stand. I'm trying to resculpt them myself in the new style for Mordheim models but it's a huge pain and plundering some new BB plastics would be a lot easier

If they're going for a "surprise" team next (which some have interpreted as being one not in the current DZ books) then I'd take a punt at Lizards, if only because of the Almanac cover.

Nurgle is too obvious because we know they're coming and they've just released an elf team (the cynic in me suggests they'll wait until people have bought the Elven Union team + other kits to do conversions for the other varieties of pointy ears before releasing 'official' models). The others in the DZ books are kinda possible already.

Hopefully now they've got a better gauge of the popularity, the release schedule is ramped up a bit (one team a quarter isn't awful if it's backed up by the odd star player/team upgrade kit direct from FW).

Personally I want Dark Elves, Wood Elves and Norse but they'll probably drop a bloody Stormcast team on us then sit back, engage moustache twirling mode and reap the rewards of the chaos they've caused.

Out of interest, shouldn't the same "game has been released now, post in the specialist game forums" rule apply to this thread as well, ala the Necromunda one?

A true surprise would be Khorne or even Slann.

 Groundh0g wrote:
Out of interest, shouldn't the same "game has been released now, post in the specialist game forums" rule apply to this thread as well, ala the Necromunda one?

I agree with your point on inconsistency. But strongly disagree with shutting down good discussion about this game. There just is no other substitute thread for discussion all things Blood Bowl/Necromunda. Not with this kind of activity. Also both games will constantly receive news and big changes for many months ahead.

This thread has had far fewer tedious arguments which keep going round and round without any sign of stopping even when the mosts ask (nicely then not so nicely)

Baxx wrote:

I agree with your point on inconsistency. But strongly disagree with shutting down good discussion about this game. There just is no other substitute thread for discussion all things Blood Bowl/Necromunda. Not with this kind of activity. Also both games will constantly receive news and big changes for many months ahead.

I'm with you - both should be ongoing threads, given how few people probably look in the specialist games section. These are both current GW releases with more stuff to be rolling out over the coming months. It's like expecting every other non-40k/AoS games news thread to be limited to the 'Misc. Other Miniature Games' section...

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
This thread has had far fewer tedious arguments which keep going round and round without any sign of stopping even when the mosts ask (nicely then not so nicely)

That wasn't the reason given for shutting the Necromunda thread though. Either the release of the game-proper is the end of the N&R thread despite known upcoming releases, or it isn't - if rules aren't applied equally they're not actually rules.

 Groundh0g wrote:
Out of interest, shouldn't the same "game has been released now, post in the specialist game forums" rule apply to this thread as well, ala the Necromunda one?

No, because we're discussing news and rumours of future releases (upcoming elves, upcoming almanac, rumours about the next team and so on).

We also have more specific BB threads in the specialist gaming forum to deal with stuff that isn't quite so news and rumours related.

I wasn't following the Necromunda thread but maybe it just drifted off topic and there was no current relevant news to discuss? This BB thread tends to die out a few days after new news and rumours then comes back when more news and rumours pops up.

I'm sure if new news comes out for Necromunda the mods would be happy enough to start a new thread here or unlock the old one as well.

 Scott-S6 wrote:

Two treemen in a starting set? Seems a bit unlikely unless they can come up with a design such that you can build one treeman from two identical sets of parts.

Andy did mention they might think of a way to improve Halfling options, like positionals. They already released goblins for Bloodbowl who need 2 trolls and forgeworld special weapons to make a team, so an all lineman halfling box is possible (but maybe unlikely). Maybe then the surprise is an existing team/faction with changes, like halflings with runners or catchers or cooks or something

More news are arriving weekly or monthly for both Necromunda and Blood Bowl and is guaranteed to do so for many months if not years ahead.

Sure both threads have had some off-topic, sharing ideas and opinions about the game itself or some of the news.

For Blood Bowl, there hasn't been news all autumn.
For Necromunda, there will be about the same amount of news that Blood Bowl had the same time last year.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Groundh0g wrote:
Out of interest, shouldn't the same "game has been released now, post in the specialist game forums" rule apply to this thread as well, ala the Necromunda one?

No, because we're discussing news and rumours of future releases (upcoming elves, upcoming almanac, rumours about the next team and so on).

We also have more specific BB threads in the specialist gaming forum to deal with stuff that isn't quite so news and rumours related.

I wasn't following the Necromunda thread but maybe it just drifted off topic and there was no current relevant news to discuss? This BB thread tends to die out a few days after new news and rumours then comes back when more news and rumours pops up.

I'm sure if new news comes out for Necromunda the mods would be happy enough to start a new thread here or unlock the old one as well.

What you said about Blood Bowl applies to Necromunda, except I would imagine there'll be significant more news for Necromunda over the next 6 months than Blood Bowl, after which it will probably die down a little bit if Blood Bowl is any indication.

Point is, both games have as valid a reason as each other to have active threads in the news & rumours forum. IMO both should be unlocked and places to post news and rumours etc., but it should be consistent either way.

Wasn't there an accidental leak at Adepticon about some sort of fishman army for Sigmar, or was it Blood Bowl... can't remember.

 Groundh0g wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Groundh0g wrote:
Out of interest, shouldn't the same "game has been released now, post in the specialist game forums" rule apply to this thread as well, ala the Necromunda one?

No, because we're discussing news and rumours of future releases (upcoming elves, upcoming almanac, rumours about the next team and so on).

We also have more specific BB threads in the specialist gaming forum to deal with stuff that isn't quite so news and rumours related.

I wasn't following the Necromunda thread but maybe it just drifted off topic and there was no current relevant news to discuss? This BB thread tends to die out a few days after new news and rumours then comes back when more news and rumours pops up.

I'm sure if new news comes out for Necromunda the mods would be happy enough to start a new thread here or unlock the old one as well.

What you said about Blood Bowl applies to Necromunda, except I would imagine there'll be significant more news for Necromunda over the next 6 months than Blood Bowl, after which it will probably die down a little bit if Blood Bowl is any indication.

Point is, both games have as valid a reason as each other to have active threads in the news & rumours forum. IMO both should be unlocked and places to post news and rumours etc., but it should be consistent either way.

Sure, we just had a very informative look at Necromunda's future on twitch. With pages from the new gang war book and other little snippets.

Silly that the thread is locked.

Vorian wrote:

 Groundh0g wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Groundh0g wrote:
Out of interest, shouldn't the same "game has been released now, post in the specialist game forums" rule apply to this thread as well, ala the Necromunda one?

No, because we're discussing news and rumours of future releases (upcoming elves, upcoming almanac, rumours about the next team and so on).

We also have more specific BB threads in the specialist gaming forum to deal with stuff that isn't quite so news and rumours related.

I wasn't following the Necromunda thread but maybe it just drifted off topic and there was no current relevant news to discuss? This BB thread tends to die out a few days after new news and rumours then comes back when more news and rumours pops up.

I'm sure if new news comes out for Necromunda the mods would be happy enough to start a new thread here or unlock the old one as well.

What you said about Blood Bowl applies to Necromunda, except I would imagine there'll be significant more news for Necromunda over the next 6 months than Blood Bowl, after which it will probably die down a little bit if Blood Bowl is any indication.

Point is, both games have as valid a reason as each other to have active threads in the news & rumours forum. IMO both should be unlocked and places to post news and rumours etc., but it should be consistent either way.

Sure, we just had a very informative look at Necromunda's future on twitch. With pages from the new gang war book and other little snippets.

Silly that the thread is locked.

WHat is silly is the stupidity that got it locked. Please stop thread jacking this thread with complaints about the other thread being locked or this one will get shut down too.

We just had a peak at the elves which is keeping This going, maybe when more stuff comes out for Necromunda a new thread will start up and it can stay focused.

Let the MODs Moderate the threads, if you think you can’t do better then send Yakface a resume.

Anyway, in Blood Bowl news: can confirm that the special play cards in the team card sets are both unique and generic. There is no reason any team couldn’t use them, apart from not having them of course.

The rest of the card sets are mostly blank and should be enough to get you through a season or two of casualties assuming you use pen instead of pencil.

Also the free rings only need to stretch a little to fit over a 32mm base and will be snug but not tight enough that removal risks damaging your models.

Vorian wrote:
Silly that the thread is locked.

So go complain to the mods or make a thread in nuts and bolts about it, it's completely off topic for this thread.


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 Mr_Rose wrote:
Also the free rings only need to stretch a little to fit over a 32mm base and will be snug but not tight enough that removal risks damaging your models.

Good to know. I still don't think they're a great idea though

I don't see the player cards as an improvement over the roster. Sure they're great for intro games for new players (the ones who are filled out standard). But does it help having 11+ cards in front of you during a game instead of a single sheet of paper?

Baxx wrote:
But does it help having 11+ cards in front of you during a game instead of a single sheet of paper?

Sure it's stupid, but have you missed the last 5 years of X-Wing & Co. It's what people want.

Sunny Side Up wrote:

Baxx wrote:
But does it help having 11+ cards in front of you during a game instead of a single sheet of paper?

Sure it's stupid, but have you missed the last 5 years of X-Wing & Co. It's what people want.

Have you heard of the concept that correlation is not causation? By far the most complained about aspect of X-Wing and similar games is the cards - chiefly the business model surrounding them, but also having to fanny about deckbuilding and sleeving them and trying not to lose any(or have them "walk off") at events. Some folk like deckbuilding, so for them it's no big deal, and plenty of folk like the combination of the license, cool prepainted models, and core gameplay loop enough to overlook their objections, but I'd wager that a version of X-Wing that just had all the card-based stuff in a rulebook with rules for "army building" a set of ships on a roster sheet would be doing just fine for itself.

Modern doesn't automatically equal superior, and difference in and of itself is not a virtue.

Blood Bowl cards are not the same as MTG, X-Wing or Shadespire if we are talking about the stat cards.

They are just the individual model stats, so they have come from similar development as Necromunda or the unit cards in 40k or AoS.

Ive bought them as I find it quicker to check individual cards than try and find individual players on small lines on a roster and ensure im getting the right stats or skills for them. I know there are lots of players out there who know their teams off by heart or enough they dont need to check the sheets often, but for me the small outlay for the cards (and bonus special play cards) is worth it.

Has anyone heard rumour of other team cards due soon?

I haven't tested the new Necromunda stat cards, but I plan on making a roster to replace them (I think old GorkaMorka rosters could track additional info like weapon upgrades).

For me, having everything nicely summarized in one list is just the fastest way to look up information. I don't think stat cards will cause a problem, but I remember from playing Warmachine that even less than 11 cards (and smaller size) could still clog up the board.

I bought the team cards cause I'm interesting in trying it, also got the sleeves. But how is it supposed to work to write your level-ups and injuries on those cards? For Warmachine, it was really useful to track damage on cards during the course of a game. Simply use a white-board marker, wipe it all off after a game. If you forget to wipe it off, the ink is harder to wipe off (requires moist and/or more focus). Not sure how this is supposed to work in a campaign system where you need to retain info between games.

Baxx wrote:
I haven't tested the new Necromunda stat cards, but I plan on making a roster to replace them (I think old GorkaMorka rosters could track additional info like weapon upgrades).

For me, having everything nicely summarized in one list is just the fastest way to look up information. I don't think stat cards will cause a problem, but I remember from playing Warmachine that even less than 11 cards (and smaller size) could still clog up the board.

I bought the team cards cause I'm interesting in trying it, also got the sleeves. But how is it supposed to work to write your level-ups and injuries on those cards? For Warmachine, it was really useful to track damage on cards during the course of a game. Simply use a white-board marker, wipe it all off after a game. If you forget to wipe it off, the ink is harder to wipe off (requires moist and/or more focus). Not sure how this is supposed to work in a campaign system where you need to retain info between games.

The BB cards can be written on in pencil so they record everything as your players progress (or get injured). Youd only need max of 12 available at a time (11 players on the pitch, 1 team card for team info like fans, coaches or inducements), others can be held in the dugout with the players in there. Generally have enough playing space for 12 cards next to the pitch, if not then can always revert to the roster print out for that game. I use an excel roster sheet for league recording anyway so wont stop using that, just want to use the cards as in game reference and recording.

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/60220902001_BBHumanCardsENG04.jpg

Some people will like to use the cards.

Other will not.

Some will complain about the cards and either use them or not.

Good discussion.

I've got the Almanac from the store I'm playing a league at (Go Immortals!), and its a pretty book. Totally makes the two desth zone books worthless, though it does seem to correct errors. For example, Papa Skullbones' entry has changed his roll from a d6 (wrong) to a d8 (right).

As for the next team, I say it's Lizardmen, if only because they're the only team featured on the Almanac's front and back cover without released miniatures.

 infinite_array wrote:
I've got the Almanac from the store I'm playing a league at (Go Immortals!), and its a pretty book. Totally makes the two desth zone books worthless, though it does seem to correct errors. For example, Papa Skullbones' entry has changed his roll from a d6 (wrong) to a d8 (right).

As for the next team, I say it's Lizardmen, if only because they're the only team featured on the Almanac's front and back cover without released miniatures.

Wasn't there a post on the previous page saying Lizardmen wouldn't be next? Yeah, this one....

Chikout wrote:
Listen to the warhammer live interview the other day. Nurgle is coming soon but not next. Lizardmen are still a way off. The next team will be 'surprising'.

I haven't listened to the interview myself. I'd love it if Lizardmen were next.

He definitely said lizardmen were a way off because I was hoping they would be the next team and was disappointed. They talked a lot about haflings. One person in the studio is a big fan so it could be them but from the tone if the conversation it sounded like a plan for the future not something already made.
I am assuming it was something he did not mention, so not nurgle, haflings, lizardmen or generic Chaos.
It could be Amazons, Norse, khemri or undead. None of those were talked about.
He talked about having three categories. the teams they need to do (because they already have rules or have been promised) Nurgle is one of these. The teams they want to do like halflings and the teams it would be cool to do if they have time.