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Wow, what a game! I'll be remembering this one for a very long time, as will many others. Kudos to Tom Brady for yet another MVP award and SB ring.
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Sasori wrote: Wow, the Falcons dropped that game harder than Hillary dropped the election...
You had one job Falcons! Now until the next superbowl I have to hear about "Gods Chosen Team" "The Genius that is Belichick" and "Tom Brady"
Ugh!
These truly are dark times . Falcons where in field goal range and all they needed to do was run the ball and kick it but nope they get both a holding call and sacked to push them well out of field goal range. It was Atlanta's game to lose and they went full Browns.
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Yeah, the disparity in number of plays and time of possession is pretty shocking! Pats won it and I'm happy for them in that sense - everything had to go right when down by 19, and the first part of it they got back was just a field goal. In what other situation are you thinking "Uhoh, they're only down 2 touchdowns and 2 two point conversions, watch out!!"
Falcons had a weird mix of playing too conservative and not conservatively enough. The throw to set up the possible field goal was absolutely insane - if you see the replay from Ryan's view, there is totally a defender directly in front of Julio Jones. He tosses it up so only Jones can get it, and the way that catch was made and getting his toes in... looked like that would be it.
So that aggression was good, but then the situational awareness was just really lacking from Ryan - on the next play, throw the ball away, don't take the deep sack! And on his turnover that gave the ball to the Pats on like the 10, it's the opposite - eat the sack, don't try to get the ball out when the guy is already on you.
I actually feel a lot better about Flacco and my Ravens after watching this as Flacco at least does have the "clutch gene" (11 touchdowns and no interceptions in his super bowl run)... but I don't know if Ryan has it. Feel bad for him, but the Pats clearly wanted it more in that second half, and the Falcons D was just too tired out from the massive play differential to stop them.
Yeah I am, and yeah, he hasn't shown much lately but I'm hoping he'll get a fire under him like he did in that contract year, and show us why he got paid in a few years' time...
I'm not deluding myself, I know he's no Brady but that's not the Ravens template anyway. Reasonably OK offense, lock down defense, a la the Giants or sometimes the Steelers. Honestly, the Patriots are the most offensively-focused team that has won championships consistently in my view, and a large part of that is Tom Brady playing for next to nothing and everyone else following suit just to be on that great team!
The thing that stands out to me is how undewhelmingly NE played, not knocking the champs, but their O-line allowed too much pressure...and sackage...on Brady all night, miserable results trying to get the running game going in the first half, the missed extra point...which, at the end of the game, with NE needing the 2pt. conversion to tie was HUGE...the blown opportunity to get something going at the beginning of the second half. I remember that in the latter half of the game, when one of the announcers, I don't remember which, mentioned that Brady had gone just gone over 400 yds. passing...it just didn't seem right. There were so many dropped balls in that first half that I didn't think he was over 200.
BigWaaagh wrote: The thing that stands out to me is how undewhelmingly NE played, n
For me, the thing that stood out was the shoddy officiating...
There may have been a few missed late hit calls (I'll be honest, I have no sympathy, because in most Pats games I've seen the particular player involved is usually whining at officials, so it makes complete sense that they are gonna ignore his whining in the SB) that the Falcons got away with, but especially in the 4th quarter and OT, I saw the easiest holding penalties to call, not being called against the Patriots (including on the "TD" play in OT), and then for them to simply not review the game winning TD?? Wow, that was really bad, especially as it definitely deserved a review.
I know I'll be back in the 2017 thread, because I love the pain/hatred that the NFL's gakky officiating causes... but I really do think I oughta just not watch any football on Sundays/mondays ever again.
So, while much more extreme, this seems like the second year in a row where a team just gave it up at the end to let the Patriots win. There were such easy ways around what ended up happening that even non-football people could see them.
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Ahtman wrote: So, while much more extreme, this seems like the second year in a row where a team just gave it up at the end to let the Patriots win.
Are you talking about the last super bowl, or the last Patriots win? If it's the second it was much less "gave it up at the end" and more "key injuries made the game come down to one play instead of being an easy win".
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Breotan wrote: Super Bowl quality teams play all four quarters. This is why New England won and Atlanta lost.
Loosing after such a ''huge'' lead is almost impossible.
It reminds me on the loss of Bayern vs ManU in the Champions League. Bayern has led 1:0 in the 90-th min and ManU came back in two or three min winning 2:1.
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timetowaste85 wrote: Is it just me, or did the commercials generally SUCK this year?!
That's what happens when Taco Bell decides not to buy ad space. Their commercials are always a hoot.
I did enjoy the abundance of politcal tone of most of the commercials. Seems the corporate world doesn't groove on the whole "close the borders" bullgak. Anheuser meeting Busch was particularly enjoyable.
timetowaste85 wrote: Is it just me, or did the commercials generally SUCK this year?!
They were mostly tame to lame. There were a few grins and laughs, but nothing outstanding.
Yeah, the Anheuser/Busch was OK. The Bald Eagle giving the guy with the loud beer can a WTF, DUDE? look was OK. The SNL lady having an orgasm about overage fees like a 50 Shades character was funny. Poor call center guy.
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I did like the eagle one but my favorite was "Bai Bai Bai" with Timerlake . Apparently it was the most popular overall, too, at least by one measurement. I can barely remember the others they list in the top 10, though!
Watch the excellence of one team, and the ineptitude of another - the 4th Quarter Highlights for the Greatest COmeback in Super Bowl History:
Hard to believe that with 9:45 left to go, the Patriots were still trailing, 28-12, and if Atlanta manages just one more score, just a field goal, they probably win anyway...
The Monday morning criticism of Atlanta is ridiculous. This is a team with a bunch of young players who dominated the best team in the NFL for half the game and forced them , you know the same team that now holds a record for SB rings, to an overtime victory. The only team in history to have forced such an OT. On their second SB appearance ever. Hardly shabby. There is *always* a loser and to go down in OT is no shame. If anything, I think it was the coaching that let them down as they didn't even try to put up late points with field goals when it was clear the Patriots defenses had adjusted and the Atlanta defense was getting worn out.
The Falcons will have a very strong team next year and Atlanta fans should be proud! I would gladly trade the Texans for that team!
jmurph wrote: The Monday morning criticism of Atlanta is ridiculous. This is a team with a bunch of young players who dominated the best team in the NFL for half the game and forced them , you know the same team that now holds a record for SB rings, to an overtime victory. The only team in history to have forced such an OT. On their second SB appearance ever. Hardly shabby. There is *always* a loser and to go down in OT is no shame. If anything, I think it was the coaching that let them down as they didn't even try to put up late points with field goals when it was clear the Patriots defenses had adjusted and the Atlanta defense was getting worn out.
The Falcons will have a very strong team next year and Atlanta fans should be proud! I would gladly trade the Texans for that team!
The Falcons will be better without Kyle Shanahan making atrocious play calls at key moments in the biggest game of the year. Falcons had 3rd and 1 and they call a 7 step drop pass play that leads to he Hightower strip sack. Disregarding the outcome and just looking at the process, the Falcons were averaging over 6 yards per carry, Freeman still had single digit rushing attempts (he finished with only 11 carries!!) and the Falcons have a lead. The smart play is run the ball, run the clock, get the first down not run a slow developing pass play. Similar problem with the play calling after Julio's great catch. The Falcons are in FG range and a FG puts the game away for them. All they have to do is stay in FG range and make the kick and Shanahan panics after losing 2 yards on the Freeman sweep. Keep running the ball even if you get no gain you stay in FG range, run the clock down and then kick to put the game out of reach. The absolute worst thing that could happen to the Falcons there was to lose a big chunk of yardage and get pushed out of FG range and calling a pass play put Ryan in a situation to get sacked for a big loss and that's what happened. Then since Ryan took the sack they needed to call another pass play to get back into FG range and that led to the holding call when then pushed them back even further so they had to punt the ball away. They got no points, barely ran any time off the clock and gave the ball back to the Patriots for a final drive to tie the game. The Patriots needed a lot of lucky breaks to get back into the game and instead of trying to avoid creating the very situations that could provide those breaks the Falcons played right into their hands.
jmurph wrote: . If anything, I think it was the coaching that let them down as they didn't even try to put up late points with field goals when it was clear the Patriots defenses had adjusted and the Atlanta defense was getting worn out.
Any criticism I've made in this thread about Atlanta has been directed at the coaching. Specifically, the decision not to run the ball when they were already in field goal range to kill the clock or force NE to use their time outs.
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. Falcons where in field goal range and all they needed to do was run the ball and kick it but nope they get both a holding call and sacked to push them well out of field goal range. It was Atlanta's game to lose and they went full Browns.
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but I'm hoping he'll get a fire under him like he did in that contract year, and show us why he got paid in a few years' time...
