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Want to pick up some cheap brushes and spray paint so i can begin to paint up some models, will these be good enough/work on models?

http://www.wilko.com/metal-and-specialist-paint/wilko-enamel-spray-400ml-satin-black/invt/0413863

http://www.wilko.com/art-supplies/reeves-acrylic-brushes-4pk/invt/0414910

Honestly no, only buy primer that is meant for models IE GW, army painter, Vallejo, that stuff will fume and will make your paint not stick as good.

As for brushes if I was you just buy a Windsor and Newton brush, and learn how to take care of it, dot ever paint with metallics with it, but it's so worth it, they are by mil a the best brushes out there.

Get a size 1 round.

 Backspacehacker wrote:
Honestly no, only buy primer that is meant for models IE GW, army painter, Vallejo, that stuff will fume and will make your paint not stick as good.

I use auto primer after it was recommended by a professional painter (Aly McVey of Studio McVey), so no you don't need a primer made specifically for models. That being said, not all spray paints make good primers.

Hmm, okay. Better check out the range of sprays around... Thanks

Once I used a random car spray primer and the result was gak after I made the first base coats, the paint just scratched off with easy.

I use dollar store brushes just fine but as for primer... never mess with that stuff/ Bad primer can give a model a few problems 1: peeling 2: bubbling 3: greasy or losing detail.

For me, cheap household/auto primer (preferred brand is Rust-Oleum - about $4 a can) and a 5- to 7-pack of Hobby Lobby brushes (different sizes/types depending on the pack; $4-$6).

 Backspacehacker wrote:
Honestly no, only buy primer that is meant for models IE GW, army painter, Vallejo, that stuff will fume and will make your paint not stick as good.

As for brushes if I was you just buy a Windsor and Newton brush, and learn how to take care of it, dot ever paint with metallics with it, but it's so worth it, they are by mil a the best brushes out there.

Get a size 1 round.

Auto-primers are cheaper and sometimes better than stuff 'intended' for models. I use Hycote Matt Black, it's much better than the Army Painter equivalent. Never had problems with it sticking to anything unless it's resin I haven't cleaned thoroughly enough.

DON'T buy really good quality brushes like Windsor & Newton until you're comfortable with painting. While you're feeling your way into it and getting mistakes out of your system, cheap synthetic brushes will do. Progress to nicer brushes when you've got the hang of being neat, applying even coats etc.

 Carlson793 wrote:
For me, cheap household/auto primer (preferred brand is Rust-Oleum - about $4 a can)...

I've used the recommended Dupli-Color Sandable Auto Primer (approx. $5/can) and have never had a problem with it on either plastic, metal or resin.

 sockwithaticket wrote:
DON'T buy really good quality brushes like Windsor & Newton until you're comfortable with painting. While you're feeling your way into it and getting mistakes out of your system, cheap synthetic brushes will do. Progress to nicer brushes when you've got the hang of being neat, applying even coats etc.

The main thing is knowing how to take care of them so you don't ruin expensive brushes.

Having good brushes can help significantly in being neat and applying even coats, especially compared to a cheap synthetic brush that'll probably end up hook nosed after a few uses (not all cheap synthetic brushes are created equal, some aren't bad, many are just junk). It's just painful if you kill an expensive brush after a week of using it because you didn't know how to care for it.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 sockwithaticket wrote:
DON'T buy really good quality brushes like Windsor & Newton until you're comfortable with painting. While you're feeling your way into it and getting mistakes out of your system, cheap synthetic brushes will do. Progress to nicer brushes when you've got the hang of being neat, applying even coats etc.

The main thing is knowing how to take care of them so you don't ruin expensive brushes.

Having good brushes can help significantly in being neat and applying even coats, especially compared to a cheap synthetic brush that'll probably end up hook nosed after a few uses (not all cheap synthetic brushes are created equal, some aren't bad, many are just junk). It's just painful if you kill an expensive brush after a week of using it because you didn't know how to care for it.

I'd say the vast majority of painters, no matter how much they read the internet prior to starting up and how good their intentions regarding brush care, will make mistakes that compromise the health of their brush.

Rosemary & co. offer some sable blends in their 401 series which would be great starter brushes if you were looking to avoid dirt cheap, crappy synthetics. They'll hold a decent enough point for one thing.