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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 05:29:38
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Hit me.
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from LOAD the Miniature game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 06:55:45
Subject: Re:New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Do you know if any of the LOAD figures will be available outside of the game?
I don't really need another board game, but I certainly wouldn't mind picking up a few of the figures as they have very interesting designs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 10:28:24
Subject: Re:New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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highlord tamburlaine wrote:Do you know if any of the LOAD figures will be available outside of the game?
I don't really need another board game, but I certainly wouldn't mind picking up a few of the figures as they have very interesting designs.
Hi there, Yes, all Epic versions of minis will be available in retail.
here is Kickstarter page for more info regarding epic minis: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1915792245/load-the-board-game
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 12:54:17
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Thank you very much.
Unicast seems cheap and good enouph, in its minimum volume, to me for some personal projects I would like to do so I have a few questions for it.
First and foremost is do you accept work from individuals and not companies?
Then I have a few casting questions.
Can you cast in coloured resin?
If yes, what selection of coulours are available? (no need for exact)
Can this method be used with transparent or tinted transparent resin?
What is the minimum volume a figure must have to be casted?
And a sculpting question
I got from BoW Jezebel article that you do 3D sculpting and printing, if I have files from an artist do you change them to be ready for Unicast? or you submit the corrections to the 3D artist?
Thanks in advance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 14:39:31
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Swamp Troll
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Wait.. Prodos is here guys.. they're answering questions. Where did everyone go? Guys? Guys?
Oh.. I guess it's harder to be a tough guy when the other side isn't on the line :/
Prodos:
Are you guys still located in the UK or is that office just an address to allow you to do Kickstarters?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 16:11:08
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Using Object Source Lighting
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1. Does the unicast requires that miniatures have an attached base? Or is it up to client choice to include it or not?
2. Do you intend to use this for Wargaming too or just boardgaming?
3. Will you use Unicast on AVP and Warzone?
5. SIze wise do you think that the resin used and unicast can be applied on things at smaller scales like in 15mm? Or there is a limit to how thin the resin can go? There was some problems with Facehuggers for AVP correct?
6. Is the resin used similar to the one you currently use, or is it more flexible and bends more?
7. Can you cast in Unicast only from a 3d file or traditional sculpts can also be used and cast in Unicast?
8. Cheeky one now... Will you develop more things for AVP?
Thank for replying and glad to know you intend to communicate more with the community.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 16:21:58
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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PsychoticStorm wrote:
Thank you very much.
Unicast seems cheap and good enouph, in its minimum volume, to me for some personal projects I would like to do so I have a few questions for it.
First and foremost is do you accept work from individuals and not companies?
Then I have a few casting questions.
Can you cast in coloured resin?
If yes, what selection of coulours are available? (no need for exact)
Can this method be used with transparent or tinted transparent resin?
What is the minimum volume a figure must have to be casted?
And a sculpting question
I got from BoW Jezebel article that you do 3D sculpting and printing, if I have files from an artist do you change them to be ready for Unicast? or you submit the corrections to the 3D artist?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks for your questions,
1. Minimum volume for Unicast is 250.
2. Yes we provide services for individuals.
3.Yes, Blue, Red, Green,- only dark colours , for instance no Yellow.
4. No to transparent.
5. 250.
6. Yes we can do this, however we would need to charge you work hours, alternatively we can give you guidance what needs to fixed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 16:30:36
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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MLaw wrote:Wait.. Prodos is here guys.. they're answering questions. Where did everyone go? Guys? Guys?
Oh.. I guess it's harder to be a tough guy when the other side isn't on the line :/
Prodos:
Are you guys still located in the UK or is that office just an address to allow you to do Kickstarters?
Ugh. Seriously, what's with the pompous attitude? The way you're crowing anyone would think you'd got a vested interest.
Don't act like you're somehow vindicated when a) the issues clearly remain and b) people have already posted since Prodos started participating raising those issues.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 16:30:46
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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NAVARRO wrote:
1. Does the unicast requires that miniatures have an attached base? Or is it up to client choice to include it or not?
2. Do you intend to use this for Wargaming too or just boardgaming?
3. Will you use Unicast on AVP and Warzone?
5. SIze wise do you think that the resin used and unicast can be applied on things at smaller scales like in 15mm? Or there is a limit to how thin the resin can go? There was some problems with Facehuggers for AVP correct?
6. Is the resin used similar to the one you currently use, or is it more flexible and bends more?
7. Can you cast in Unicast only from a 3d file or traditional sculpts can also be used and cast in Unicast?
8. Cheeky one now... Will you develop more things for AVP?
Thank for replying and glad to know you intend to communicate more with the community.
Hi thanks for your questions.
1. Yes it needs to have a base, if provided mini has no base we would need to add it, it's a crucial element in the process.
2. Yes, we are investigating with our partners how wargaming market will react to plug-and-play type of miniatures., based on that data we may release product in fully assembled form.
3. Not current projects, however we are working on new AvP game with 21 Unicast miniatures, at 49.99 USD price range - think Descent.
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5. We are testing it for a customer that is going onto KS with his 15mm models, 1st test are very positive, however we have to find a solution to thick runner.
6. Elements thin as 0.5mm are flexible, however 2.5mm + are hard but not brittle. Material is similar to resin we have used in the past.
7. Only 3D. Process required models surface in 3d form.
8. please see point 3.
Thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 16:39:13
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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Thanks! by volume I was meaning how small a model can be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 16:43:10
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Azreal13 wrote: MLaw wrote:Wait.. Prodos is here guys.. they're answering questions. Where did everyone go? Guys? Guys?
Oh.. I guess it's harder to be a tough guy when the other side isn't on the line :/
Prodos:
Are you guys still located in the UK or is that office just an address to allow you to do Kickstarters?
Ugh. Seriously, what's with the pompous attitude? The way you're crowing anyone would think you'd got a vested interest.
Don't act like you're somehow vindicated when a) the issues clearly remain and b) people have already posted since Prodos started participating raising those issues.
I guess he doesn't realise that there has been a lot of back and forth between backers and Prodos on the AvP thread already, and that perhaps people might not want to further derail this thread by rehashing arguements that have already happened. He has already expressed interest in AvP backers not raising their issues here, but now it seems he's reversed that opinion. Weird.
I do have a question for Prodos. When is this new AvP game planned for release? And will it impact KS fulfillment?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 16:48:40
Subject: Re:New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Thanks for the answers Prodos.
So as I initially suspected the base on the miniature is a required part of this process and unicast will also branch into wargaming too.
Curious to se how things progress.
Good job on interacting with the community.
Keep it going.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 16:54:27
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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The New Miss Macross!
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MLaw wrote:Wait.. Prodos is here guys.. they're answering questions. Where did everyone go? Guys? Guys?
Oh.. I guess it's harder to be a tough guy when the other side isn't on the line :/
Prodos:
Are you guys still located in the UK or is that office just an address to allow you to do Kickstarters?
So flame baiting is the solution? Your own "internet wimp whose big brother just came over" solution? Prodos already knows what lots of folks think about their horrible attitude and inability to keep their word. It shows up in every Prodos related thread and likely affects their bottom line since they tried so hard to hide their involvement in their latest venture. But I guess it's harder to look at the big picture when you're carrying all that water for them...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 17:00:47
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Swamp Troll
San Diego
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warboss wrote: MLaw wrote:Wait.. Prodos is here guys.. they're answering questions. Where did everyone go? Guys? Guys? Oh.. I guess it's harder to be a tough guy when the other side isn't on the line :/ Prodos: Are you guys still located in the UK or is that office just an address to allow you to do Kickstarters? So flame baiting is the solution? Your own "internet wimp whose big brother just came over" solution? Prodos already knows what lots of folks think about their horrible attitude and inability to keep their word. It shows up in every Prodos related thread and likely affects their bottom line since they tried so hard to hide their involvement in their latest venture. But I guess it's harder to look at the big picture when you're carrying all that water for them... I sincerely am not. Everyone had issues but cleared out as soon as there was a legitimate opportunity to have those issues addressed. To me that was astounding and genuinely baffling. The only thing I am curious about that hadn't been asked at the time was their actual location.. I'm about to go back over their posts and see if they addressed it but if they didn't to me that's a huge red flag. All their other red flags are already flying... so me not repeating what those are saying doesn't mean that I support them. It means I don't like repetition. They have a lot to answer for but.. they're seemingly answering for it. So let's get back to them answering it and if you have questions for them instead of pointed comments towards me then now is your chance. EDIT: As to others - I did not back AVP so I have no idea what's happening in that thread.. I'm here because the thread title was about unicast. I never said anything about AVP to reverse my stance and if anything I did say muddies that for anyone.. then I have to wonder why my opinion is carrying so much weight. I'm not a conformist by nature so if my opinion seems provocative I can only offer that it's not based on herd mentality. As to the other thing about me assuming I'm vindicated because of whatever.. How is that any different from someone assuming that flaming me for 3 pages is vindicated since everyone else is doing it or because the mods allow it since I'm not particularly liked by them. That's a pretty high horse you're on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 17:12:55
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Using Object Source Lighting
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MLaw wrote: warboss wrote: MLaw wrote:Wait.. Prodos is here guys.. they're answering questions. Where did everyone go? Guys? Guys?
Oh.. I guess it's harder to be a tough guy when the other side isn't on the line :/
Prodos:
Are you guys still located in the UK or is that office just an address to allow you to do Kickstarters?
So flame baiting is the solution? Your own "internet wimp whose big brother just came over" solution? Prodos already knows what lots of folks think about their horrible attitude and inability to keep their word. It shows up in every Prodos related thread and likely affects their bottom line since they tried so hard to hide their involvement in their latest venture. But I guess it's harder to look at the big picture when you're carrying all that water for them...
I sincerely am not. Everyone had issues but cleared out as soon as there was a legitimate opportunity to have those issues addressed. To me that was astounding and genuinely baffling. The only thing I am curious about that hadn't been asked at the time was their actual location.. I'm about to go back over their posts and see if they addressed it but if they didn't to me that's a huge red flag. All their other red flags are already flying... so me not repeating what those are saying doesn't mean that I support them. It means I don't like repetition. They have a lot to answer for but.. they're seemingly answering for it. So let's get back to them answering it and if you have questions for them instead of pointed comments towards me then now is your chance.
How about you follow your own words and concentrate on the specific topic, stop flaming, baiting and cease to be so damn repetitive with the constant complaining.
You know, ask them questions instead!
Thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 17:19:22
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Dakka Veteran
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MLaw wrote:Wait.. Prodos is here guys.. they're answering questions. Where did everyone go? Guys? Guys?
Oh.. I guess it's harder to be a tough guy when the other side isn't on the line :/
My guess would be that they haven't gotten around to reading the posts by Prodos since it was still in the very early AM time. I tend not to check gaming threads until I've woken up and have free time in the afternoon to catch up on things, you however seem to spring out of bed bright eyed and fully clad [MOD EDIT - RULE #1 - ALPHARIUS]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 17:44:14
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Nostromodamus wrote:...perhaps people might not want to further derail this thread by rehashing arguements that have already happened...
If only.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 18:58:26
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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I think this stuff would be great for Wargames, especially skirmish games, being one piece is great for me as I barely have enough time to play let alone build and paint (infact a lot of my stuff goes to my mate for commission painting). Obviously these wont be very modular (I'm guessing you could cast minis without arms and heads and cast different parts to interchange). What would the price point be for a standard 28mm model?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 19:52:30
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Will Warzone models continue to be multi part in the future? I hope so, certainly for basic troops. The main reason I haven't started Imperial are the limited Trencher sculpts.
When are the warzone 2.0 rules due for release (roughly) and are they significantly changed?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 20:37:09
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Silent Puffin? wrote:
Will Warzone models continue to be multi part in the future? I hope so, certainly for basic troops. The main reason I haven't started Imperial are the limited Trencher sculpts.
When are the warzone 2.0 rules due for release (roughly) and are they significantly changed?
Hi there, our fans/beta testers, crusaders team is play-testing it, there are some major changes. We will be announcing in bullet points the changes soon.
Unicast won't be utilized for Warzone.
Thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 20:37:52
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Azreal13 wrote: MLaw wrote:Wait.. Prodos is here guys.. they're answering questions. Where did everyone go? Guys? Guys?
Oh.. I guess it's harder to be a tough guy when the other side isn't on the line :/
Prodos:
Are you guys still located in the UK or is that office just an address to allow you to do Kickstarters?
Ugh. Seriously, what's with the pompous attitude? The way you're crowing anyone would think you'd got a vested interest.
Don't act like you're somehow vindicated when a) the issues clearly remain and b) people have already posted since Prodos started participating raising those issues.
A vested interest?
No, I don't think so.
What I do think is not complimentary though.
He leaves out the fact that they admit to having problems in the past.
Which is sad, because that was actually the most important, and potentially the most productive, part of Prodos' posts.
Admitting problems is a necessary first step if those problems are to be rectified.
Prodos has gotten beyond denying that the problems exist, so they can start to work on their damaged reputation.
Now, if their white knights could do the same....
Sadly, a lot of Prodos' own products are in that weird position of being technically excellent, but not interesting me much. (That is a taste issue - not something that is their fault, or a problem, really.)
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Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 20:38:29
Subject: Re:New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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few shots allows each mold of unicast ? price cost 1kg of unicast material ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 20:38:47
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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overtyrant wrote:I think this stuff would be great for Wargames, especially skirmish games, being one piece is great for me as I barely have enough time to play let alone build and paint (infact a lot of my stuff goes to my mate for commission painting). Obviously these wont be very modular (I'm guessing you could cast minis without arms and heads and cast different parts to interchange). What would the price point be for a standard 28mm model?
wargaming, skirmish game we could have it at 15 USD a set 5-7 miniatures. Automatically Appended Next Post: xargax wrote:few shots allows each mold of unicast ? price cost 1kg of unicast material ?
Each mould is approx, 6 x 32mm miniatures, at 350+ shots per mould, mould can be replaced within 72h, we charge per miniature not per Kg and material itself is not for sale. thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 21:18:07
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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As Mlaw made such a big deal about it perhaps you could answer his question?
Or mine?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 21:25:41
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Swamp Troll
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Joyboozer wrote:As Mlaw made such a big deal about it perhaps you could answer his question?
Or mine?
Thanks actually.. my question was if you guys are actually located in the UK or of that's just for Kickstarter or .. where are you guys actually located?
(Joyboozer you might want to restate yours as well since there was a lot of.. discussion.. since then)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 21:46:24
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Fixture of Dakka
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MLaw wrote:Joyboozer wrote:As Mlaw made such a big deal about it perhaps you could answer his question?
Or mine?
Thanks actually.. my question was if you guys are actually located in the UK or of that's just for Kickstarter or .. where are you guys actually located?
(Joyboozer you might want to restate yours as well since there was a lot of.. discussion.. since then)
For the current KS they are located in Chicago, IL.
Wink wink.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/25 23:58:24
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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Ah another question that I just realized,is the minimum volume models cast or casts? so for an example a 6 models mould with the minimum order is A 42 castings 252 models? or B 250 castings 1500 models?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/26 04:04:11
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Warzone Resurrection wrote: PsychoticStorm wrote:
Thank you very much.
Unicast seems cheap and good enouph, in its minimum volume, to me for some personal projects I would like to do so I have a few questions for it.
First and foremost is do you accept work from individuals and not companies?
Then I have a few casting questions.
Can you cast in coloured resin?
If yes, what selection of coulours are available? (no need for exact)
Can this method be used with transparent or tinted transparent resin?
What is the minimum volume a figure must have to be casted?
And a sculpting question
I got from BoW Jezebel article that you do 3D sculpting and printing, if I have files from an artist do you change them to be ready for Unicast? or you submit the corrections to the 3D artist?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks for your questions,
1. Minimum volume for Unicast is 250.
2. Yes we provide services for individuals.
3.Yes, Blue, Red, Green,- only dark colours , for instance no Yellow.
4. No to transparent.
5. 250.
6. Yes we can do this, however we would need to charge you work hours, alternatively we can give you guidance what needs to fixed.
What kind of costs are we looking at for a minimum run of 250? In total? Automatically Appended Next Post: Just got my prodos unicast figure, which was Calypso. It's pretty amazing this was done as one piece (or if not, it was glued really really well. Can't see the joints at all)
However, I can see a bit of mold slippage on one part of the Calypso model already and the model is...dusty for some reason? It has grey dust on parts of it. Hopefully that will just wash off.
Put the images here
www.imgur.com/a/Zb49z
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/26 06:55:51
Subject: New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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Sining wrote:
What kind of costs are we looking at for a minimum run of 250? In total?
Depends on what they answer to my question.
Taking the approximate costs here.
if the minimum volume is 250 models then we look at 462,50 USD, or 1,85 per model not bad that is
If the minimum volume is 250 shots (1500 models) on the other hand it is 1025 USD or 0,68 per model again not that bad.
Remember as the pic above says these are estimations I would expect them a bit higher
My main issue from my perspective as an individual who would like to utilize it for some pet projects is the following at 250 models minimum order (252 really for the 6 models mold) you get 42 x 6 of the same model not that bad there is some excess but it can be handled, if the minimum is 250 shot then you get 250 of the same model that is way too much excess for a pet project.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/26 08:54:37
Subject: Re:New casting process/material (UniCast) from Prodos
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Thows are REALY good prices. I will point out for most they would be higher counting on how much further work you need done, especially if you are getting them to do the designing/sculpting. But still. At thows prices alot of people will be able to make the wargames of their dreams if they got the cash.
The only downside I realy see is that the mini's must have a base and are mono-pose. This one is abit of a head scratcher to me. Couldn't you just do a "base" that has multiple parts attached. Then the customer just cuts the parts off themselves and assemble? With the detail shown that the material can hold, this dosen't seem like it would be a problem.
I Imagen that the pricing structure shown wouldn't cover this, but it seems fesiable. Unless this is a "don't feed the gremlins after midnight" situation, I don't relay see why not?
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