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 Silent Puffin? wrote:
 Jihadin wrote:

Since there is a HUGE Number of American EX Pats there I guess they are like me eh


Prove it.

 Jihadin wrote:

As for Dark Humor. Do not join the military.


Your 12 years too late.


LOL really. You do know Clark Air Force and Subic Bay Naval station were there. Use your Google FU. There are a huge number living in Thailand to. There are a huge number of Filipino's who retire back to the Philippines when they retire from the US Military?

Since I take it your 12 years in the military or did one stint talk to me when you do 23 years and a couple deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan.

If you playing "gotcha" with me its not going to work.
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So now he's in favor of vigilante groups killing drug dealers.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/58fc2315d488426ca2512fc9fc8d6427/philippine-president-elect-urges-public-kill-drug-dealers

"Please feel free to call us, the police, or do it yourself if you have the gun — you have my support," Duterte said, warning of an extensive illegal drug trade that involves even the country's police.

If a drug dealer resists arrest or refuses to be brought to a police station and threatens a citizen with a gun or a knife, "you can kill him," Duterte said. "Shoot him and I'll give you a medal."


 
   
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Save the government money. Now we get to actually see how it went when China solve that particular problem

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LOL really. You do know Clark Air Force and Subic Bay Naval station were there. Use your Google FU. There are a huge number living in Thailand to. There are a huge number of Filipino's who retire back to the Philippines when they retire from the US Military?


This proves that the entire 'Ex pat' community supports this wannabe dictator because?

 Jihadin wrote:

If you playing "gotcha" with me its not going to work.


What are you gibbering about?

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First I add """" then I added *** then I made a clue...then I made a reference.

Spoiler:
Look at the SIG Chucklehead


Edity

Being this guy got elected. He ran Davao for how long with the same policy and now everyone making him Kim, Castro, Gahdafi, and countless other Tyrants because he got elected.

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LOL really. You do know Clark Air Force and Subic Bay Naval station were there. Use your Google FU. There are a huge number living in Thailand to. There are a huge number of Filipino's who retire back to the Philippines when they retire from the US Military?


Hang on, really? Is that what you're basing 'the entire expat community supports this guy' on?

Filipinos retiring to the Phillippines?
   
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In 2015, the U.S. State Department estimated that there were over more than 220,000 U.S. citizens living in the Philippines.[2]


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Brum

 Jihadin wrote:
First I add """" then I added *** then I made a clue...then I made a reference.

Spoiler:
Look at the SIG Chucklehead


Edity

Being this guy got elected. He ran Davao for how long with the same policy and now everyone making him Kim, Castro, Gahdafi, and countless other Tyrants because he got elected.


What?

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 Silent Puffin? wrote:
 Jihadin wrote:
First I add """" then I added *** then I made a clue...then I made a reference.

Spoiler:
Look at the SIG Chucklehead


Edity

Being this guy got elected. He ran Davao for how long with the same policy and now everyone making him Kim, Castro, Gahdafi, and countless other Tyrants because he got elected.


What?


That they're going to stack drug dealer bodies like cordwood soon

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Skip over the VA hospital part Spinner?

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But wait

In 2015, the U.S. State Department estimated that there were over more than 220,000 U.S. citizens living in the Philippines.[2]




I don't see how any of that indicates some kind of colossal wave of support for inflicting Dredd-style 'justice' on people selling weed on a street corner. If you've got family or friends in the Philippines, you might want to live nearby them. If you like the Philippines, you might want to live there. I think Pat McCrory has his head jammed firmly up somewhere anatomically implausible, but I'm not switching states.


What?


I think it's his less-than-coherent way of saying he's saying stuff to get a rise out of people. Which, you know, there's a word for...
   
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Alright then.

No one knew about this guy but me till the thread started. I know more about the situation in the Philippines lawlessness before this thread started. There's is no mass refugee asylum from the Philippines when he won the election. Everyone seem to have forgotten or not known of Marcos regime. This guy has been Mayor of Davao for 22 years and now makes the news and everyone scream "DICTATOR". Yet do not know his background.


Popular with the locals due to his successful zero tolerance policies against criminals, he earned the nickname "The Punisher". Vigilante groups tied to Duterte are thought to be responsible for the execution of drug traffickers, criminals, gang members and other lawless elements. Over a period of 20 years, he turned Davao City from the "murder capital of the Philippines" to what tourism organisations now describe as "the most peaceful city in southeast Asia," and what numbeo.com ranks as the world's fourth safest place.[11][12][13] Nonetheless, Duterte has drawn criticism from various sources, particularly the press and the Philippine National Police leadership in the Aquino government, which contest the effectiveness of his policies.[14]

Duterte had been urged to run for the Philippine presidency numerous times,[15] but refused these offers until well into 2015 on the grounds of a "flawed government system", old age and opposition from his family.[16] Nevertheless, on November 21, 2015, he declared his candidacy in the 2016 election contest for the office of the President of the Philippines, and won with a landslide victory, garnering 16,601,997 votes.[17] Duterte is due to take office on June 30, 2016, for a term of six years.[18]


So everyone sticks with recent "OMG HE's DICTATOR" and made a off color joke which he claim now since he is label with it.

Since no one else seem to look beyond then what's current NOW. I can go with "He's no Dictator" till he acts like one. Then we can go in and slam him in the cell by Noriega down in Florida.

Since I can't "TROLL" I might as well go full hilt with defending him and defend him being I am comparing him to Marcos and his Dictator ship which people either do not know or remember

There's more.

One article of TIME magazine shows him patrolling in Davao City’s streets on one of his big motorcycles, leading a convoy complete with blaring sirens and M16 rifles. Local news reports show him foregoing the pomp, opting to inspect in a regular taxi, surprising his would-be passengers.[27]


and

Though vocally supportive of the extra-judicial killings of habitual drug users and dealers, Duterte used city government funds to build a ₱12-million drug rehabilitation and treatment center which provides 24-hour services. In 2003, he offered a ₱2,000 monthly allowance to drug addicts who personally approached him and committed to kick the habit. Duterte is also publicly known for visiting remote New People's Army camps negotiating peace transaction efforts and advocating diplomacy.[2


Can't be true is he's killing all users and drug dealers eh

also

Duterte was also the first mayor in the Philippines to give formal representation to the indigenous Lumad and Muslim community, designating deputy mayors to represent their interests in the local government. The anti-discrimination ordinance he mandated, was reportedly a response to news he received that Muslims were being discriminated against by real estate agents


Awesome Sauce.
No prosecution of Muslims


n 2010, he was elected vice mayor, succeeding his daughter, Sara Duterte-Carpio, who was elected as mayor. He has been offered the Interior Secretary post 4 times, by presidents Fidel V. Ramos, Joseph Ejercito Estrada, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, and Benigno S. Aquino III but rejected all of them. In April 2014, he also declined a nomination for the World Mayor Prize, given by an international body to outstanding mayors saying "he was just doing his job."[27] Among the other awards Duterte also refused to accept for Davao City includes the one given by the American Cancer Society and the 2010 anti-smoking award in Singapore.[20]


He had plenty of times to assume "Dictatorship"
Heck Hitler tried to overthrow the government

The infamous quote which I found as dark humor


On April 17, 2016, Duterte was the subject of a controversy after he made a remark on the rape of an Australian missionary in one of his rallies for presidential candidacy at the Amoranto Sports Complex on April 12, 2016, with regard to the 1989 Davao hostage crisis.[79] After being condemned widely by many which include various women's groups and the Australian Ambassador to the Philippines, Duterte later apologized for the incident and acknowledged the comment as a "bad remark" saying he regretted his "gutter language" but would not apologize for being misinterpreted. He insists though that the remark was not a "joke" as reported by some media outlets, saying that he stated it in a narrative. He further said that he was not apologizing for stating the remark reasoning that he made the remark out of "utter anger" when he recalled the events that followed prior to that hostage taking incident


The remark itself since no one else posted it

"Was I mad because she was raped? Yes, that's one of the reasons. But she really was beautiful. The mayor should have been first."


Crowd result

The crowd cheered with laughter


That's not all though *GASP*

Duterte was also critical of the critical comments made by American ambassador Phillip Goldberg and Australian ambassador Amanda Gorely on his remark on the rape incident.[110][111][112] Duterte urged Australia and the United States to cut out ties with the Philippines if he was elected president in response to the ambassadors' critical comments.


There's might be connection to a Communists party. Whew good thing he didn't drop Sarin on them

The administration of Benigno Aquino III warned voters that they should be alarmed that Duterte may be involved with the Communist Party of the Philippines and its militant wing the New People's Army.[119] This was a day after captive police officers was released by the militants to the mayor.


As for that crime rate in Davao. I can't really debate that. Not my strong suit though

Though crime did rise along with the city population growth.

Though he is in a gray branch area with LGBT. This needs to be a thread all to itself b ut that a bit touchy to those who post on DakkaDakka

Duterte criticized boxer Manny Pacquiao after the latter's controversial comments about LGBT couples being "worse than animals", stating that the boxer did not have the right to judge others in such a manner. Duterte has also advocated in support of anti-discrimination measures to protect LGBT individuals in his capacity as a mayor. He has remarked that, in his view, "The universe is ruled by the law of a God who is forgiving, merciful, compassionate and loving, the same God who created all of us equal".[65]

In terms of the legalization of same-sex marriage, Duterte stated in January 2016 that he feels sympathetic to LGBT people on the issue while still believing that he should not push against the current legal code of the Philippines. He noted that current law depicts the matter in terms of religious doctrine and intermingles secular marriage with sacramental holy matrimony, which traditionally is only between one man and one woman. He stressed his feelings of affection for his LGBT friends and family members though indicating his agreement with current traditions


So lets roll with with point; counter point.

Who's game

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I had heard of him previously because I know a Filipino guy, who btw is somewhat torn between schadenfreude for all the technocrat donkey-caves terrified of Duterte and concern for what's going to happen to everyone else.

Never mind that running around and murdering people who use or sell drugs is not necessarily a sane approach. "Drug dealer", well, okay, that can mean anything from the Mafia pushing coke through nazi biker gangs making meth to some guy named Dweezy selling weed on campus. That's without getting into that using drugs of any kind isn't some objective moral failure deserving of divine punishment.
   
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Davao Death Squads

In its 2009 report Human Rights Watch criticised authorities for failing to act against the death squads. It condemned the then president, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo for tolerating the lawlessness, saying that she had, "largely turned a blind eye to the killing spree in Davao City and elsewhere."[10] In 2004 Arroyo had announced Rodrigo Duterte as her special adviser on crime, an appointment which was viewed as signifying her approval of extrajudicial killings.[5] Human Rights Watch also highlighted the inaction of the Philippine National Police and national institutions such as the Department of Justice, the Ombudsman’s Office, and the Commission on Human Rights. This official tolerance of vigilantism had created, they said, an environment of "widespread impunity".[10] From 2009 Philippines government institutions periodically stated their intention to investigate the death squads. On one such occasion the National Commission on Human Rights created an inter-agency task force to look into the matter. However, no real action was forthcoming.[11] In 2005 Bernie Mondragon, of Coalition Against Summary Executions (CASE), an NGO, said extrajudicial killings "are now the unwritten state policy in dealing with crime".[5] Later, in 2008 the UN special rapporteur on extrajudicial executions, Philip Alston, pointed out that the fact that the killers made no effort to hide their identity and threatened parents with the murder of their children, suggested a belief by the killers that they were immune from police action.[10]

In 2005, the deputy ombudsman for the Military and Other Law Enforcement Offices suspended four senior police officials for six months without pay because of their failure to solve a number of vigilante killings in their area.[10] In an official statement the deputy ombudsman said:[10] "The inability of the respondent police officers to prevent the summary killing in Davao City is an indication of gross neglect of duty and inefficiency and incompetence in the performance of official functions."

When the four officers were suspended the mayor of Davao, Rodrigo Duterte directed the four officials to file a petition for certiorari, on the basis that the penalty would demoralize the police, reportedly saying, "I have pledged to help [the police] especially when they are prosecuted for simply performing their duties,"[10] The suspension order was subsequently reversed by the Court of Appeals after the police officers filed a petition.

In 2012 the Office of the Ombudsman charged 21 police officers with a charge of simple neglect of duty over the vigilante killings.[6] The charge provided for penalties of 1-month suspension or a fine of 1 month's salary. Investigators from the Ombudsman's office found that there was an “unusually high number of unsolved killings” from 2005 to 2008 in the areas of jurisdiction of the officers’ precincts.[6] The officers ranged in seniority from police chief inspector to police senior superintendent.

Alleged involvement of Rodrigo Duterte[edit]

Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte has been heavily criticised by numerous organizations for condoning and even inciting murders to take place during his leadership. In the April 2009 UN General Assembly of the Human Rights Council, the UN report (Eleventh Session Agenda item 3, par 21) said, "The Mayor of Davao City has done nothing to prevent these killings, and his public comments suggest that he is, in fact, supportive."[12] Human Rights Watch reported that in 2001–2002, Duterte appeared on local television and radio and announced the names of “criminals”, some of whom were later executed.[7] In July 2005 at a crime summit in the Manila Hotel the politician said, "Summary execution of criminals remains the most effective way to crush kidnapping and illegal drugs".[13] In 2009 Duterte said: “If you are doing an illegal activity in my city, if you are a criminal or part of a syndicate that preys on the innocent people of the city, for as long as I am the mayor, you are a legitimate target of assassination."[2]

Duterte responding to the reported arrest and subsequent release of a notorious drug lord in Manila is quoted as saying: "Here in Davao, you can’t go out alive. You can go out, but inside a coffin. Is that what you call extra-judicial killing? Then I will just bring a drug lord to a judge and kill him there, that will no longer be extra-judicial." [14]

Referring to the arrest of a suspected rice smuggler, Duterte spoke out in the state senate saying, "If this guy would go to Davao and starts to unload (smuggled rice)… I will gladly kill him." For these comments Duterte was attacked in an editorial in The Manila Times, which condemned "the mentality of lawlessness and vigilantism."[15] The newspaper argued that this culture of impunity enabled those in power, including officials, "private warlords and businessmen vigilantes" to take retribution against those they felt had acted against their interests: "They kill journalists exposing corruption and human rights activists exposing abusive police and military men."[15] Following Duterte's comments in relation to killing a person suspected of smuggling rice, the office of the President of the Philippines issued a statement saying, “Killing a person is against the law. The President has been firm in the belief that no one is above the law. We must not resort to extralegal methods."[16]

Commenting on Duterte, the UN special rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions said in 2008, "The mayor’s positioning is frankly untenable: He dominates the city so thoroughly as to stamp out whole genres of crime, yet he remains powerless in the face of hundreds of murders committed by men without masks in view of witnesses."[10]


More on Wiki. It does not seem to be "kill everyone" who disagree but may perhaps just involve criminals over a broad spectrum.

A team from Families of Victims of Involuntary Disappearance (FIND), a human rights group, and investigators from the Commission on Human Rights discovered killing fields where skeletal remains of victims of the death squads were dumped.[3] Human Rights Commissioner Dominador Calamba II has indicated that local executives and the police knew the militants but were "seemingly tolerating" them.[4] Human rights groups said the killings have become an unwritten government policy to deal with crime due to an ill-functioning criminal justice system and lack of due process in the way authorities administered justice


I heard talks from friends there that pay offs to avoid the Law is pretty common or just doesn't happen.

Anyone else catching the crap going down in Mexico in their tourist locations?


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He double down


(CNN) — Philippines president-elect Rodrigo Duterte effectively said he supports vigilantism in a nationally-televised speech.

Faced with criminals who resist arrest or threaten citizens, the controversial politician suggested that it was fine for citizens to take the law into their own hands.



"If he fights, and he fights to the death, you can kill him," said the former mayor of Davao City, who was elected to the presidency in a decisive victory last month.

During the address, Duterte also encouraged citizens to use deadly force against drug dealers

"Please feel free to call us, the police, or do it yourself if you have the gun ... you have my support," he told the crowd and television cameras.

"Shoot him [the drug dealer] and I'll give you a medal."

As Philippines' likely president, Duterte vows to be 'dictator'

Bounty offered

Earlier in the month, Duterte put bounty of up to 3 million Philippine pesos ($65,000) on drug lords -- which he upped to five million pesos ($108,000) in his most recent speech.

"I'm not saying that you kill them, but the order is 'dead or alive,'" he said.

With less than a month left before he assumes office, Duterte said he will take a tough stance on corrupt cops.

"[To] all police who have cases and are wanted now, if you are still involved in drugs, I will kill you," he said, according to a CNN Philippines translation. "Don't take this as a joke. I'm not making you laugh. Son of a bitch, I will kill you."

He also demanded the resignation of three police generals, but refused to state their names publicly.

"Do not wait for me to name you in public because I will only humiliate you," he said.

Philippines gets its own Trump


Extrajudicial killings advocated

Last month, he said he wants to empower security forces to "shoot to kill" anyone that resists arrest.

He has previously suggested that he himself pulled the trigger on suspects in a kidnapping case while he was mayor of Davao.

Allegations also surfaced that he was connected to extrajudicial killings by a well-coordinated group of vigilantes, earning him the moniker "The Punisher" by Time Magazine.

Duterte himself confirmed the claims during a live TV show broadcast locally in the Philippines last year.

"Me? They are saying that I'm part of a death squad? True, that's true," he said.

The controversial figure also reiterated his views on capital punishment Sunday at a news conference, saying "if there is no fear in the law or attached to the law ... it's useless."

"What I would do is urge Congress to restore the death penalty by hanging, especially if you use drugs," he said according to CNN Philippines.

Duterte confirmed as Philippines president after vowing to sleep in


Journalist deaths dismissed

Duterte also implied last month that some journalists killed on the job in the Philippines may have been corrupt and deserved death.

"Just because you're a journalist you are not exempted from assassination, if you're a son of a bitch," Duterte said.

"Freedom of expression cannot help you if you have done something wrong," he added.

The National Union of Journalists of the Philippines (NUJP) was quick to blast the leader for his "appalling" comments.

Ahead of his election, he was an outspoken and unapologetic candidate who, more often than not, refused to distance himself from controversy.

During the race he had refused to apologize following the emergence of controversial comments on gang rape.

A YouTube video appeared during the campaign showing Duterte joking about the 1989 rape and murder of an Australian missionary that took place in Davao City.

"I was angry she was raped, yes that was one thing. But she was so beautiful, I think the mayor should have been first. What a waste," he said, according to a CNN Philippines translation of the comments.

Could Duterte's ascent mean cooler Philippine ties with U.S.?


Forgot to cover the "I will be a dictator portion"


Manila, Philippines (CNN) — Rodrigo Duterte, who is set to clinch the presidency of the Philippines, said he will be a "dictator" against evil and vowed to step down in six months if he failed to fulfill his promise to stamp out corruption.

"I will be strict. I will be a dictator, no doubt it. But only against forces of evil -- criminality, drugs and corruption in government," Duterte said Tuesday morning in his hometown of Davao City in the southern Philippines. Duterte is mayor of the city.

"My message to all government employees -- the police, the military, everyone, including Cabinet secretaries -- stop. You just stop (corruption)," he said.

But Duterte also offered a slightly more self-effacing tone Tuesday, saying he would humbly serve the people of the Philippines.

"If I get to live to the day (of) my oath of office, I don't have other desires than to serve the interests of the people of the Philippines. Nothing follows," he said, promising to focus on improving education, health and agriculture.

Duterte was also seen getting emotional early Tuesday when he sobbed over his parents' grave. According to Edith Ging Caduaya, who posted a video to Facebook, he asked his parents to guide him as he prepares to lead the country.


Going to be watching closely those six months. This guy has my interest.

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It does not seem to be "kill everyone" who disagree but may perhaps just involve criminals over a broad spectrum.


As defined by vigilantes operating outside the law.


He wants to murder people for using drugs and you don't think there is a problem with that.
   
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Jihadin, do you really not see the risk of people being falsely accused (and subsequently extra judicially murdered)? Or do you just not care?

And thats assuming that extra judicial murder is even proportionate for the crimes they're accused of.
   
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And thats assuming that extra judicial murder is even proportionate for the crimes they're accused of.

Well, it seems that extrajudicial murder is the order of the day. I suppose he'll be supported until/unless he winds up killing a bunch of innocent children during a raid or something like that. Or he may eventually escalate beyond this war on drugs and get drug down by the various insurgents that pop up from time to time.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/philippines-duterte-follows-through-drug-war-n603701

Philippines' Duterte Follows Through on Drug War Promises

Thirty "drug dealers" have been killed since Rodrigo Duterte was sworn in as Philippine president on Thursday, police said, announcing the seizure of nearly $20 million worth of narcotics but sparking anger from a lawyers' group.

Duterte won the election in May on a platform of crushing crime, but his incendiary rhetoric and advocacy of extrajudicial killings have alarmed many who hear echoes of the country's authoritarian past. He has been nicknamed "The Punisher."

Oscar Albayalde, police chief for the Manila region, said five drug dealers were killed Sunday in a gunbattle with police in a shanty town near a mosque not far from the presidential palace.

"My men were about to serve arrest warrants when shots rang out from one of the houses in the area," Albayalde told reporters, saying officers returned fire and killed five men.

Four guns and 200 grams of crystal methamphetamine were recovered. Three other "drug dealers" were killed in other areas in Manila on Sunday and 22 were killed in four areas outside the capital.

More than 100 people have died, mostly suspected drug dealers, rapists and car thieves in stepped up anti-crime police operations since the election on May 9.

Edre Olalia, secretary-general of the National Union of People's Lawyers, said the killings must be halted.

"The drug menace must stop ... Yet the apparent serial summary executions of alleged street drug users or petty drug lords which appear sudden, too contrived and predictable must also stop," he said in a statement. "The two are not incompatible."

In the north of the main island of Luzon, drug enforcement agents and police seized a shipment of 400 lb of "shabu" (methamphetamine) worth about 900 million pesos ($19.23 million) from either China or Taiwan, national police chief Ronald dela Rosa said.

The shipment was unloaded at sea and brought to shore by small fishing boats before delivery to Manila's Chinatown, he said.

Duterte tapped into voters' disgust with the Philippines' political elite and the failure of successive governments to tackle poverty and inequality, drawing comparisons with Donald Trump and the rise of assertive populists across the globe.

In his maiden speech last week, the president conceded that many believe his methods "are unorthodox and verge on the illegal." However, the 71-year-old former prosecutor said he knew right from wrong and would abide by the rule of law.

Duterte was mayor for 22 years of the southern city of Davao, where, according to human rights groups, death squads have killed at least 1,400 people since 1998, most of them drug-pushers, addicts, petty criminals and street children.

He denies any involvement in vigilante killings.


 
   
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"Verging on the illegal" is an interesting way for a president to describe his policies. This is still nuts.

I think it's also interesting to point out that he won the election with 39% of the vote. I'm no fan of the way the two-party system we have here works, but it's nice to know that our president is going to need a majority.

   
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He doesn't actually. It's possible to win the presidency with a minority of the popular vote, because of how the electoral college system works.

I'm writing a load of fiction. My latest story starts here... This is the index of all the stories...

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Yeah, but then we all make a big fuss about it :p

I can't see someone winning with only 39%, anyway.
   
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Somewhere in south-central England.

I don't think that would be possible unless you had three candidates in the election.

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 Spinner wrote:
Yeah, but then we all make a big fuss about it :p

I can't see someone winning with only 39%, anyway.

Bill Clinton won with 48% of the vote thanks to Ross Perot running as an Independent. I don't think any other living President has won with less than 50% of the electorate.

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It will never cease to amaze me how many people will overlook the actions of a brutal leader because he has some political views they share.

It's probably something to keep in mind for any future political discussions, "interesting opinion you have there, guy that is okay with government organised death squads in the Philippines."


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Bill Clinton won with 48% of the vote thanks to Ross Perot running as an Independent. I don't think any other living President has won with less than 50% of the electorate.


Clinton won with 48% in 1996, but before that in 1992 he won with just 43%.

And of course Bush won in 2000 with 48%, which wasn't just less than half, it was also less than his opponent.

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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
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Body count rises as new Philippines president calls for drug addicts to be killed

Spoiler:
NEWLY-INSTALLED Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte has reiterated his tough stance on crime by urging the public to not only kill drug dealers, but addicts as well.

His remarks came barely a day after he was sworn in as the country’s 16th president in Manila on Thursday, Vice reported.

Speaking to a crowd of 500 in a Manila slum, Duterte said: “If you know of any addicts, go ahead and kill them yourself as getting their parents to do it would be too painful.”

He added that, “These sons of whores are destroying our children.”

After claiming victory in the general elections in May, the former Davao city mayor said medals would be given to citizens who shot and killed drug dealers.

His words look to have been put into action since he took presidency as bodies of drug suspects piled up over the last few several days.

According to PhilStar, 18 suspected drug pushers were killed in separate incidents over the weekend, while another 952 confessed drug users and pushers, fearing for their safety, surrendered themselves to authorities in the past two days.

Three suspects were killed by policemen in Duterte’s hometown of Davao and another five suspects were shot in Quaipo.

Lawmen in Caloocan also killed a former policemen and suspected drug pusher.

One man was shot in Tondo, Manila on Sunday and another in San Pedro, Laguna. Another six suspects were killed in Quezon province.

The latest deathtoll brought the number of drug suspects killed to 30 after Duterte was sworn in as president on June 30, PhilStar reported.


"Speaking to a crowd of 500 in a Manila slum, Duterte said: “If you know of any addicts, go ahead and kill them yourself as getting their parents to do it would be too painful.”"

Looks like he has expanded his KOS list. Always good to see.
   
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I know it's been a while since the last post in this thread, but I don't think this man deserves two topics.

His comments, however, absolutely need to be heard, given the amount of support for him in this thread (which is to say, a non-zero number).

Not even drug dealers any more. Drug addicts.

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The post just over your own...

So, is it time to go there underneath the starry flag and civilise them with a krag, as your something-grandparents wouldhave sung?

Maybe this has gotten out of hand, I'm not going to try and defend the contrary.
   
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Oh, whoops, he'd been saying that back in July? My bad, I missed that.

I hope the self-comparison to Hitler provides enough new content to be relevant.
   
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Colne, England

He's apparently ending war games with the US, in a bid to make closer ties with China and Russia.

Don't know if anyone can find more info on that, but there's a paragraph on it in todays i for UK (and whoever else can get the i).

Brb learning to play.

 
   
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So this little gem popped up this morning

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/30/asia/duterte-hitler-comparison/index.html

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(CNN)When comparing yourself to world leaders or historical figures, there are perhaps less controversial choices than Adolf Hitler.
Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte on Friday likened himself to the Nazi leader, saying he wants to kill millions of drug addicts, just as Hitler killed Jews during the Holocaust.

"Hitler massacred 3 million Jews. Now there is 3 million, what is it, 3 million drug addicts (in the Philippines), there are," he said in a speech in his hometown of Davao City.
Philippines' War on Drugs
"I'd be happy to slaughter them. At least if Germany had Hitler, the Philippines would have (me). You know my victims, I would like (them) to be all criminals, to finish the problem of my country and save the next generation from perdition."
History counts the cost of Hitler's purges against "undesirables" at 11 million, 6 million of whom were Jews.
World Jewish Congress President Ronald Lauder, in Israel to attend the funeral of former Prime Minister Shimon Peres, condemned the remarks.
"These statements are revolting, and President Duterte must retract them and apologize," Lauder said. "We just marked the 75th anniversary of Babi Yar, the massacre of more than 33,000 Jews in Ukraine by Nazi Germany. ... Now, the elected leader of the Philippines openly calls for the mass murder of people who are addicted to drugs.
"Drug abuse is a serious issue. But what President Duterte said is not only profoundly inhumane, but it demonstrates an appalling disrespect for human life."
The controversial leader campaigned on a hard line against crime, particularly drug offenses, and has in the past uttered statements which have caused many in the international community to recoil.

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Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.

I will wait and see on this. The Phillipines is a toilet and democracy isn't really the answer as people want to elect leaders who can make vacuous promises.

Sometimes a dictator is frankly better long term. People will still want their elections because they want their elections, but then dont know what they want when they get them and the system turns to feth when demagoguies exploit that.

There is no such thing as good government, but some government is better than others. Democracy is for advanced western civilisations, it doesn't work everywhere, not matter how much we say it does.

If you look at the Phillipines it was generally happier under Marcos than under any of his successors, because Phillipinos cant have everything, they don't have the money for everything, and a dictator can sort things out.

He could end up another Kim Jong Un, but then he might end up another Castro. Which is a good thing for those who dont know about Castro.


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