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Quick Q - I see Dark Vengeance replac. Orks + Skitarii (?)
Does this mean 8th ed 40k?...

juantheogre wrote:
Quick Q - I see Dark Vengeance replac. Orks + Skitarii (?)
Does this mean 8th ed 40k?...

8th Ed is supposed to be next year, so this adds even more salt to this pile. It could be a "Starter" in the way Stormclaw and Deathstorm were though.

I would buy the feth out of a Ork vs Admech boxset if it was ever made

Also interested in a Start Collecting MT boxset but it would need to be a 30-40% discount like the Lizardmen and Admech boxsets.

Why would you want a "Start Collecting: Tempestus" set?

Just buy the crummy Commissar blister and two boxes. Congrats. You've made an Allied Tempestus detachment.

The book is trash, the formations are trash, Scions are trash, and Commissars are overpriced trash that are being pushed far far far too heavily in what is portrayed in fluff as hardcore SpecOps with a fanatical devotion to the Imperium.


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And while we're at it?

I would be surprised if even a quarter of things from this, beyond the stuff we have from reliable sources(Sylvaneth, Lost Patrol, a Death themed Warhammer Quest thing), are true. The first bunch of stuff listed has a huge number of incorrect data to begin with--Elves got nothing reboxed in May, Death didn't get anything reboxed beyond the Flesh Eaters Court, etc.

Strange no mention of the two mini dexes... hmm

One post and he joined today. Come on people.

Scions are beautiful models, and therefore not trash. Best models in the entire IG/AM range, honestly.

 MrFlutterPie wrote:
I would buy the feth out of a Ork vs Admech boxset if it was ever made

Also interested in a Start Collecting MT boxset but it would need to be a 30-40% discount like the Lizardmen and Admech boxsets.

Only problem neither orks nor admech is space marines. Who expects GW to release 2 army set WITHOUT space marines?

Anybody? No? That's what I thought...

 Kanluwen wrote:
Why would you want a "Start Collecting: Tempestus" set?

Just buy the crummy Commissar blister and two boxes. Congrats. You've made an Allied Tempestus detachment.

The book is trash, the formations are trash, Scions are trash, and Commissars are overpriced trash that are being pushed far far far too heavily in what is portrayed in fluff as hardcore SpecOps with a fanatical devotion to the Imperium.


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And while we're at it?

I would be surprised if even a quarter of things from this, beyond the stuff we have from reliable sources(Sylvaneth, Lost Patrol, a Death themed Warhammer Quest thing), are true. The first bunch of stuff listed has a huge number of incorrect data to begin with--Elves got nothing reboxed in May, Death didn't get anything reboxed beyond the Flesh Eaters Court, etc.

I guess my advantage is that I would not be using the MT as MT or even using them in the 41st millennium

 Kanluwen wrote:
Why would you want a "Start Collecting: Tempestus" set?

Just buy the crummy Commissar blister and two boxes. Congrats. You've made an Allied Tempestus detachment.

Isn't it odd to wonder why somebody would want cheaper models?-)

You don't want cheaper models?

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Scions are beautiful models, and therefore not trash. Best models in the entire IG/AM range, honestly.

And for all the gorgeous models that they are, there's basically no reason to take them. Everything they can do, Skitarii do better--and cheaper, both in points and cash wise.

tneva82 wrote:

 MrFlutterPie wrote:
I would buy the feth out of a Ork vs Admech boxset if it was ever made

Also interested in a Start Collecting MT boxset but it would need to be a 30-40% discount like the Lizardmen and Admech boxsets.

Only problem neither orks nor admech is space marines. Who expects GW to release 2 army set WITHOUT space marines?

Anybody? No? That's what I thought...

Well it be nice if they did. WHF before Age of Blandmar came about did, people can say what they want about fantasy but it did cycle armies in boxes. Now we have to look forward to Sigmarines in every one.

tneva82 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Why would you want a "Start Collecting: Tempestus" set?

Just buy the crummy Commissar blister and two boxes. Congrats. You've made an Allied Tempestus detachment.

Isn't it odd to wonder why somebody would want cheaper models?-)

You don't want cheaper models?

You would have to pay me to buy a Start Collecting Tempestus set. It doesn't matter if you get the models for cheaper when there's not really a reason to take them in the first place.

Scions are WAAAAAAAAAY overpriced, like every other Elite slot choice in IG.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Scions are beautiful models, and therefore not trash. Best models in the entire IG/AM range, honestly.

Pretty sure the entirety of Kanluwen's post was from a rules/performance perspective rather than an aesthetic judgement.

If we're going there, though, I'd say lauding them as the best in the IG range is pretty much the definition of damning with faint praise.


When it comes to GW rumours, there's a handful of trusted sources. This one post wonder is not one of them, ergo don't even bother with the salt. They haven't said anything worth paying attention to.

 Kanluwen wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Why would you want a "Start Collecting: Tempestus" set?

Just buy the crummy Commissar blister and two boxes. Congrats. You've made an Allied Tempestus detachment.

Isn't it odd to wonder why somebody would want cheaper models?-)

You don't want cheaper models?

You would have to pay me to buy a Start Collecting Tempestus set. It doesn't matter if you get the models for cheaper when there's not really a reason to take them in the first place.

Scions are WAAAAAAAAAY overpriced, like every other Elite slot choice in IG.

Agreed, its like to convert a gang of arbites from them costs you an insane amount. Id like to do it, but seriously?, there like what 42 pounds just for 10 guys and thats just to start. I can get a box of Mordhiem old sealed box for that.

 Kanluwen wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Why would you want a "Start Collecting: Tempestus" set?

Just buy the crummy Commissar blister and two boxes. Congrats. You've made an Allied Tempestus detachment.

Isn't it odd to wonder why somebody would want cheaper models?-)

You don't want cheaper models?

You would have to pay me to buy a Start Collecting Tempestus set. It doesn't matter if you get the models for cheaper when there's not really a reason to take them in the first place.

Scions are WAAAAAAAAAY overpriced, like every other Elite slot choice in IG.

*shrug* That assumes one is playing with current 7th ed rules. Applies to you maybe but not others.

I can find use for those. If they weren't almost 4£ per model with discount.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Scions are beautiful models, and therefore not trash. Best models in the entire IG/AM range, honestly.

The models are great.

However, if I had an IG army, I'd never run them as MT. Veteran Troops with 3x special weapons, maybe. But not MT.

I bought a box on release and they make beautiful Inq henchman grenadiers

 Thairne wrote:
Dark Angels Supplement?
Hah, as if.

Silver Tower has already some leaks out. I doubt that Atia or the other, reliable rumormoungers would have missed said supplement.

Dark Angels supplement would kinda make sense, since they're currently headed for Fenris. For now though.. Salty.

Anyone who has more reliable rumours about upcoming HH?

nightshae007 wrote:
Anyone who has more reliable rumours about upcoming HH?

I don't have a source other than dakka threads but I thought that HH and the Warhammer Quest next full game were later in the year instead of the mid-point.
I just got Warhammer Quest built. They gotta have some mercy.

 privateer4hire wrote:

nightshae007 wrote:
Anyone who has more reliable rumours about upcoming HH?

I don't have a source other than dakka threads but I thought that HH and the Warhammer Quest next full game were later in the year instead of the mid-point.
I just got Warhammer Quest built. They gotta have some mercy.

That's true. But GW loves rolling in the dough

 Kanluwen wrote:

Everything they can do, Skitarii do better--and cheaper, both in points and cash wise.

wait they can DS too?

excuse me while I go acquire a salt mine so I can properly handle this load..........

I would be down for a Scions Start Collecting box. Especially if it has a Taurox in it. Of course, I have no intention of using any of it I. 40k, but I'd be all over that set.

I already have 15 Scions for use in my SM army. Love those models WAY too much. Some of the best GW has ever done imo.

 aracersss wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Everything they can do, Skitarii do better--and cheaper, both in points and cash wise.

wait they can DS too?

Oh noes, they can't DS.

Not like anyone used Scions except in pods anyways--good fething riddance to that nonsense.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 aracersss wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Everything they can do, Skitarii do better--and cheaper, both in points and cash wise.

wait they can DS too?

Oh noes, they can't DS.

Not like anyone used Scions except in pods anyways--good fething riddance to that nonsense.

Really... does anyone actually play with scions? I just proxy them as stormtroopers/scouts/IG command/chaos cultist champions etc.

"Back in the days... when making up rumors was an artform..."

 Mymearan wrote:
I already have 15 Scions for use in my SM army. Love those models WAY too much. Some of the best GW has ever done imo.

I also really like my 15 scions!
I have turned the heads in different direction on the plasma guys, and slightly tilted down the pointing arm on one of them -now I can arrange them so they look like they are all pointing in different directions screaming and arguing with each other. Good times!


Oh, by the way, I really dont buy this rumor list. Obvious fake.