Author |
Message |
 |
|
 |
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/12 22:15:46
Subject: Do fusion blades take up hard points on a commander?
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
I'm aware that commanders can take as many sif systems as they'd like without them counting toward hard points. So I'm confused if this would make a fusion blade count as taking up 0 hard points. The book says it replaces a twin linked fusion blaster's profile with its own, so I'm curious if this means it essentially goes from taking up 2 hard points to taking up 0 since it's essentially being replaced by a signature system.
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2016/06/12 22:17:51
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/12 23:27:23
Subject: Do fusion blades take up hard points on a commander?
|
 |
Auspicious Daemonic Herald
|
Do Hard Points even exist? I'm pretty sure that was the 3ed thing
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/13 01:00:16
Subject: Do fusion blades take up hard points on a commander?
|
 |
Fireknife Shas'el
Lisbon, Portugal
|
Hard Points still do exist. Fusion Blades don't take any HP, as they're signature systems. The twin-linked fusion blaster required for one takes 2 HP, though.
|
AI & BFG: / BMG: Mr. Freeze, Deathstroke / Battletech: SR, OWA / Fallout Factions: BoS / HGB: Caprice / Malifaux: Arcanists, Guild, Outcasts / MCP: Mutants / SAGA: Ordensstaat / SW Legion: CIS / WWX: Union
Unit1126PLL wrote:"FW is unbalanced and going to ruin tournaments."
"Name one where it did that."
"IT JUST DOES OKAY!"
Shadenuat wrote:Voted Astra Militarum for a chance for them to get nerfed instead of my own army. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/13 02:18:08
Subject: Do fusion blades take up hard points on a commander?
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
Vector Strike wrote:Hard Points still do exist. Fusion Blades don't take any HP, as they're signature systems. The twin-linked fusion blaster required for one takes 2 HP, though.
So it's not replacing the fusion blaster with the fusion blade? I mean, it seems like it would given the fusion blade has the shooting profile of a fusion blaster.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/13 02:28:13
Subject: Do fusion blades take up hard points on a commander?
|
 |
Lieutenant General
|
Jaxler wrote: Vector Strike wrote:Hard Points still do exist. Fusion Blades don't take any HP, as they're signature systems. The twin-linked fusion blaster required for one takes 2 HP, though.
So it's not replacing the fusion blaster with the fusion blade? I mean, it seems like it would given the fusion blade has the shooting profile of a fusion blaster.
As noted, you're required to have a twin-linked Fusion Blaster in order to take Fusion Blades. Fusion Blades does not replace the twin-linked Fusion Blaster, just its profile. Its essentially the same as the Special Issue Ammunition that Sternguard Veterans have for their bolters. It changes the weapon's profile, but you still have the bolter.
|
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/13 03:36:38
Subject: Do fusion blades take up hard points on a commander?
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
Ghaz wrote: Jaxler wrote: Vector Strike wrote:Hard Points still do exist. Fusion Blades don't take any HP, as they're signature systems. The twin-linked fusion blaster required for one takes 2 HP, though.
So it's not replacing the fusion blaster with the fusion blade? I mean, it seems like it would given the fusion blade has the shooting profile of a fusion blaster.
As noted, you're required to have a twin-linked Fusion Blaster in order to take Fusion Blades. Fusion Blades does not replace the twin-linked Fusion Blaster, just its profile. Its essentially the same as the Special Issue Ammunition that Sternguard Veterans have for their bolters. It changes the weapon's profile, but you still have the bolter.
Ah, well that makes sense then. My next question would be if you can take a commander with fusion blades as well as bright sword.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/06/13 03:39:08
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/13 04:49:45
Subject: Do fusion blades take up hard points on a commander?
|
 |
Trustworthy Shas'vre
|
Jaxler wrote:Ah, well that makes sense then. My next question would be if you can take a commander with fusion blades as well as bright sword.
no. for the same reason why the ECPA is unchanged but the one model that benefits cannot take it. You can only take 1 of each signature system in your army. if you take brightsword, it has one, and you cannot include another.
|
'No plan survives contact with the enemy. Who are we?'
'THE ENEMY!!!'
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/13 14:52:54
Subject: Do fusion blades take up hard points on a commander?
|
 |
Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
Phoenix, AZ, USA
|
Oddly enough, when I take a Fusion Blade Commander (Blademander?), I almost always end up with Brightsword, due to having 3 points to spare which goes into Advanced Targeting on the 'mander. A twin-linked AP1 sniper is awesome just before a charge.
SJ
|
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world.”
- Ephesians 6:12
|
|
 |
 |
|