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This is getting very off topic so better take it to the OT forum thread on the referendum.

Kilkrazy wrote:

 notprop wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Uncertainty and risk causes economic problems such as lack of investment.

Which will no longer be the case the second the vote is announced.

Once the die is cast investment restarts.

If the vote is to Remain, there will be a huge sigh of relief, the stock market and GBP will strengthen, and investment will carry on. Because everyone will know the situation.

if the vote is to Leave, it throws the country into another period of doubt and uncertainty, while the government works out what to do and gradually tries to do it, and everyone sees what the results are. This could last over two years.

The Money won't sit still for long. I know a few investors that have capitised nearly 40% of their funds to free up money for a definite decision. If the status quo remains then they have lost some opportunity. If there is a Brezit they will be throwing money all over the shop to take advantage of the current low.

tneva82 wrote:

 notprop wrote:
The tariff issue is a non-starter to me. I don't see anyone being petty enough to impose taxes as this will meet with the same response. BMW sells 230k cars last year in the UK; I don't see Frau Merkel putting the kibosh on that or visa versa. Our money talks as well as anyone else's.

Brexit is not a vote out of Europe but rather the EU. Trade will continue as it has always done.

You think they will let UK to cherry pick whatever they wish from EU and ignore what they don't?-)

As if. Brexit fans are in for cool shower if they think EU will treat them lightly if they leave.

Then it will be a shower of our choosing rather the shower of gak that is the EU.

I'm sure you imagine that such tacit threat is in some way motivating to the EUs agenda but the idea of remaining in Union with an organisation that would cut off it's proverbial nose to spite it's face only speaks of the need to leave. I expect a far more pragmatic approach in the event of a vote to leave. Petty squabbles really aren't in the interest of anyone.

 notprop wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Uncertainty and risk causes economic problems such as lack of investment.

Which will no longer be the case the second the vote is announced.

Once the die is cast investment restarts.

The uncertainly will only begin if there's a Leave vote; because at that point no-one will have any idea what's happening. All big UK companies will need to stop making any decisions until they can figure out what to do, and that will be based on information that may take years to produce.

I mean, what do we know about what happens with Leave, beyond us taking back control? What trade restrictions/deals will we have? Will there be any new barriers to investment? Will there be any changes to employment law?


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 Kilkrazy wrote:

if the vote is to Leave, it throws the country into another period of doubt and uncertainty, while the government works out what to do and gradually tries to do it, and everyone sees what the results are. This could last over two years.

There's no way it'll only take 2 years to figure out what's going to happen.


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 notprop wrote:


The Money won't sit still for long. I know a few investors that have capitised nearly 40% of their funds to free up money for a definite decision. If the status quo remains then they have lost some opportunity. If there is a Brezit they will be throwing money all over the shop to take advantage of the current low.

Are they going to be investing in stuff they thinik will be better in a post-exit Britain, or just taking advantage of the post-exit stock prices plummeting? As in, are they expecting there investments to grow because they are doing well, or just because they are bouncing back to their real value after a period of uncertainty?

Well, I'm not so much concerned with the Brexit in general. The thread asks for price hikes in case of a Brexit. Will we see the GW products (and others from GB) to get a price hike of say 10% or so?

 wuestenfux wrote:
Well, I'm not so much concerned with the Brexit in general. The thread asks for price hikes in case of a Brexit. Will we see the GW products (and others from GB) to get a price hike of say 10% or so?

From very expensive to very expensive? GW of a few years ago would have def took the chance for a price adjustment, but not sure nowadays.

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:
Well, I'm not so much concerned with the Brexit in general. The thread asks for price hikes in case of a Brexit. Will we see the GW products (and others from GB) to get a price hike of say 10% or so?

From very expensive to very expensive? GW of a few years ago would have def took the chance for a price adjustment, but not sure nowadays.

In case of Brexit GW would have another reason for price increase.

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:
Well, I'm not so much concerned with the Brexit in general. The thread asks for price hikes in case of a Brexit. Will we see the GW products (and others from GB) to get a price hike of say 10% or so?

From very expensive to very expensive? GW of a few years ago would have def took the chance for a price adjustment, but not sure nowadays.

In case of Brexit GW would have another reason for price increase.

Under the old regime. Be interesting to see if the new one follows the established pattern.

£20 for a single plastic character?

There already is a single plastic character over £20.

It's the AdMech Tech Priest Dominus -- £22.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
There already is a single plastic character over £20.

It's the AdMech Tech Priest Dominus -- £22.

To be fair, the Dominus is essentially an MC in size, it's on a 50mm base. That's not to say £22 is reasonable in absolute terms, but I expect Fenrir was referring to the £18 standard character price being raised, which tend to be 25/32mm based standard infantry sized.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
There already is a single plastic character over £20.

It's the AdMech Tech Priest Dominus -- £22.

Good god, just released that the plastic, yes plastic, model is more expensive than the Forgeworld resin model

 zedmeister wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
There already is a single plastic character over £20.

It's the AdMech Tech Priest Dominus -- £22.

Good god, just released that the plastic, yes plastic, model is more expensive than the Forgeworld resin model

Not by much, really. A quid's difference is hardly something to get your knickers in a twist about.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
There already is a single plastic character over £20.

It's the AdMech Tech Priest Dominus -- £22.

Good god, just released that the plastic, yes plastic, model is more expensive than the Forgeworld resin model

Not by much, really. A quid's difference is hardly something to get your knickers in a twist about.

I don't think knickers were being twisted over the idea that they should be the same price but the plastic one was a quid more, rather that the plastic one should be several quid less yet somehow managed to be a quid more.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
There already is a single plastic character over £20.

It's the AdMech Tech Priest Dominus -- £22.

Good god, just released that the plastic, yes plastic, model is more expensive than the Forgeworld resin model

Not by much, really. A quid's difference is hardly something to get your knickers in a twist about.

I don't think knickers were being twisted over the idea that they should be the same price but the plastic one was a quid more, rather that the plastic one should be several quid less yet somehow managed to be a quid more.

i don't know why plastic should be cheaper than resin by default (yes, i understand economies of scale)...
i think it is one of those things that should be taken on a case by case basis...
one Squid more, for a way better model, is fine with me...

the FW Magos didn't make me reach for my money, but plastic GW Dominus did...
working with FW resin is not nearly as enjoyable as working with GW plastic...
the amount of prep work that FW casts require, means that, given the option, i will go for plastic every time...
some FW models are better options, like the Kakophani vs. the Finecast Noise Marine upgrade kit, and are easy choices to make...
some sets, like Tartaros Termies, are FW only, so not issue there...
with the option to buy plastic MKIV or FW resin MKIV now, i would not buy the resin ones, even if they were slightly cheaper...
the plastic casts are just that much better quality...

the GW Dominus comes with two options for each gun, two head options, is bigger than the FW Magos, and is flawlessly cast...
it is also a much cooler looking model, to me...
the way that GW is cutting the plastic kits creates lovely negative space, and is a huge improvement over the old metals in terms of how thin components like loinclothes can be...
the cuts also allow for much more dynamic poses in the casts...
in my opinion, plastic now allows GW to produce way better models than metal or resin ever did...

there is also the question of durability...
resin can snap in a stiff breeze, while plastic can bounce off of the floor unharmed...
there is also zero miscasts in any of the plastic kits i've purchased...
i can't say the same for resin and metal...

taking those things into consideration, i am happy to pay a Squid extra for great plastic sculpts...
besides, the new Ironjaws Megaboss is £24...
i think we have a new benchmark to gripe about

to bring it back to the topic, i hope that a potential Brexit (am i the only one who thinks that sounds like a really bland breakfast cereal???) would not cause price increases...
the Start Collecting boxes have made a lot of people happy, and is a trend that should definitely continue if GW wants to increase sales...
everybody loves a deal

cheers
jah

I'd be buying that Forgeworld now whilst the pound is slumped in value if I was abroad right now!

If you're abroad, seriously buy from Forgeworld now.

As for me, I think I'm 70:30 on selling all my collection now. Bit extreme, but I've been thinking a lot about this in regards to the ruleset and not knowing what's going to happen economy wise means I may need to hold on to as much cash as possible.

So now that the pound has dived there is the difficult choice of either to buy now, only to watch the pound fall further; or to hold off only to watch the the currency rebound.

 Frozocrone wrote:
If you're abroad, seriously buy from Forgeworld now.

As for me, I think I'm 70:30 on selling all my collection now. Bit extreme, but I've been thinking a lot about this in regards to the ruleset and not knowing what's going to happen economy wise means I may need to hold on to as much cash as possible.

Living in the UK as a citizen I imagine my miniatures just about got more expensive to buy. This is going to be interesting.

With the way the pound is falling, it's going to be cheaper for Aussies to buy FW and ship here than walk into GW and buy anything 40k?

motski wrote:
So now that the pound has dived there is the difficult choice of either to buy now, only to watch the pound fall further; or to hold off only to watch the the currency rebound.

There's two years until they are out of the EU, but there are other considerations. Scots are mad as hell that they voted to stay in GB, but their 62% remain for the EU was overruled - they will probably call another referendum.

The whole region is weak, I'd be short GBP and EUR now

Yeah.

A weak pound means it's cheaper for other countries to buy from the UK.

for example, let's say a strong pound is 1: 3 Australian Dollars. So for every $3, you get £1 in exchange rates.

Now lets say a weak pound is 1:2. Now, for every $2, you get £1. So for $6 in a strong pound, you get £2 but for $6 in a weak pound you get £3.

There is a reason a lot of businesses have shifted their money into Japan, way before the official results came in.

My friends, regardless of anything else, the pound is crashing.

For the love of God, buy Forgeworld.

Yeah hopefully it stays down for long enough for me to get some money together.

FW better release the updated Crusade Army List for 30k soon.

MIni MIehm wrote:
My friends, regardless of anything else, the pound is crashing.

For the love of God, buy Forgeworld.

Yeah. Let's have a look at the prices...

The gw trade embargo restriction was an eu thing. Without the eu gw can restrict all cross country trade.

Herzlos wrote:
The gw trade embargo restriction was an eu thing. Without the eu gw can restrict all cross country trade.

Which is entirely irrelevant as GW are the only place you can buy new FW kits.

They will not be in the slightest bit bothered if the get a glut of foreign orders. GW staff get paid in pounds afterall.

This is one of the upswings to small/medium companies that was discussed.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
FW better release the updated Crusade Army List for 30k soon.

Oh god, thats what I'm waiting for too lol.

MIni MIehm wrote:
My friends, regardless of anything else, the pound is crashing.

For the love of God, buy Forgeworld.

How much can you save out of curiosity?
I'd also say that anybody who plans on taking advantage of this advice should do so quickly as the pound and other worldwide currencies will stabilise. The pound dropping after Brexit was expected, the Brexit itself was uncertain though. I was surprised when I woke up this morning, happily so as I voted out.

Well, the Brits have chosen the domestic variant. I think the pound will loose not only in a short term but in a long term against the Euro. If so, this will not be too bad for GW/FW customers.

A lot of the UK mini companies ahve been on facebook promoting this unexpected 'sale price' for US buyers.

I think I'll be hitting up Ramshackle and maybe Hasslefree for some long overdue orders this week