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**Manchu**

Traditio wrote:
I was under the impression that this is basically what Adepta Sororitas is.

LOL - SoB are my favorite army. Sure they are nuns with guns (and power armor) and SM are monks with guns (and power armor) but here's what I like about SoB:

Manchu wrote:
I'd say it's their defining feature. It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" So instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in that power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch.

Pure. Badass.

To me, Sisters are different from SM not because they are women but because they are physically just regular humans. They really represent the very core of the Imperium's value system, in all its stark zealotry, brutality, and yes even nobility. Just another example of how the existing factions amount to great setting coverage.

Traditio wrote:
I wish to note this entire discussion is off-topic. Even if you added female space marines, in what respect would this be the creation of a "new faction"?

It may not qualify strictly under OP's guidelines but that debate is not worth having. Femarines would be novel enough to constitute a "new faction" (in the same sense that GW adding them would ruin the 40k aesthetic for you, by your own account).

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Guess this needs to go on this page, too:

Manchu wrote:
Please take the "what is sexist" debate elsewhere (feel free to start a thread in Dakka Discussion if there isn't one currently)..

**Dakka Wolf**

Manchu wrote:
So I guess they could have boobs then. (Not saying they should - not even sure if there are male and female Necrontyr, much less whether potential female ones would have had boobs in life.) In any case, there are plenty of 40k factions that already do include women and yes it would be nice to have some female models of them ... just hard to incorporate them into multipart plastic sprue where the intent is to have as much customization possibility as you can. I guess you could have, for example, a box of Dire Avengers and one sprue would be male Eldar and the other sprue would be girl Eldar. But it sounds expensive to me, someone at HQ would have to run the numbers on whether this would actually make people buy more of 'em in the long term.

There is a lot more that GW could do with their existing 40k factions before even thinking of starting a new one up ... and I just don't see any room for a new one. Alternatively, I would like to see more aliens in the Tau list.

Forget the Tau, anime is about as alien as it gets.
Five new Necron models based on the sphinx that combine to create one superheavy!!!

**Manchu**

And it could fight the Chaos robeasts.

In all seriousness, is there really any brand-appropriate niche that isn't filled?

**Melissia**

Can't think of one tbh. Energy beings?

**Manchu**

Didn't the Great Crusade wipe out a race of such things?

In all honesty, I think it exterminated every xenos threat outside of orks and Eldar, besides those which were not yet active in the galaxy during that period.

This is actually my argument for why Tau belong in 40k: they represent not only how humanity has declined since the days before the Heresy but by implication just how vastly powerful the Imperium once was. The Tau are like a tuft of weeds growing up through a crack in the aspalt - zoom out and realize the ground is paved in thousands of miles in every direction.

**Traditio**

Melissia wrote:
Can't think of one tbh. Energy beings?

Kind of like the protoss from starcraft?

**Melissia**

Traditio wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Can't think of one tbh. Energy beings?

Kind of like the protoss from starcraft?

No, because that wouldn't be energy beings. Also it'd be stupid, much like most of Blizzard's writing.

**Martel732**

Melissia wrote:
Traditio wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Can't think of one tbh. Energy beings?

Kind of like the protoss from starcraft?
No, because that wouldn't be energy beings. Also it'd be stupid, much like most of Blizzard's writing.

That seems an ironic claim in a 40K forum.

**Melissia**

Not really. Besides, Protoss are a half-assed Eldar ripofff, not energy beings.

**G00fySmiley**

Melissia wrote:
Traditio wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Can't think of one tbh. Energy beings?

Kind of like the protoss from starcraft?
No, because that wouldn't be energy beings. Also it'd be stupid, much like most of Blizzard's writing.

Like the dredge from Titan AE? that could be neat. and as for the protoss... I like them, but they are certainly not pure energy, they have advanced and different technology than terrans (or the IoM) but are still very much biological beings

**Melissia**

Was more thinking like the Pa'anuri from Schlock Mercenary, only toned down a bit, but the Drej are a neat concept.

**Martel732**

Melissia wrote:
Not really. Besides, Protoss are a half-assed Eldar ripofff, not energy beings.

I was talking about ripping on Blizzard's writing, when GW has some of the most terrible wish fulfillment fanfic I've ever heard of.

**Vankraken**

After reading through all the suggestions I still am going to go with my idea of what is basically Fascist Space Penguins. 40K is suppose to be a parody of sorts and honestly the IoM is not xenophobic enough to properly parody fascism and racism. We need comically racist space penguins who hate all other species with such distain and hatred that they are come the apocalypse with every factions. Similar to the Dalek except less robot, more exaggerated, while being flightless birds.

**tjnorwoo**

They always emphasize daemons of the warp and evil gods, but why not have angels and good celestial forces. Maybe a reawakening or returning of old ones. They could explore all sorts of greek god concepts. Finally kill off the emperor and allow progress in the story by not being so reliant on his psychic pathways or whatever crap they need him for.

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Also this just came to me... MORMONS IN SPACE! and or SCIENTOLOGISTS! that is some untapped science fiction that has been unexplored in tabletop battles.

**Xenotitan123**

These technically are not Huruds as they have been clearly shown not to be anything like skavens/ratmen

Such a shame they did not go through with Jess Goodwin's plans for a 40k equivalent of the rats.

I simply love the steampunk/WW1 look of these, the Skaven always struck me as a faction that would perfectly fit in the 40K universe, especially now that the old world is gone. I imagine them as a poor accuracy, ranged based army with weird and dangerous weapons that rarely hit but when they do they hit hard. Mostly based on poison attacks, gas based artillery, airships/blimps as air units and so on.

**Blitzen the Solitaire**

I would create a small army of the world ender entities from Guardians of the Galaxy. Pretty much Sentient Synthetic Humans
Make them range in size from Wraithknight to Emperor Class Titan with an ability to take a beating and make Apocalypse games a bigger thing.
Toss in some sort of Air wing based off the ravagers and give them the powers a Thousand Sons(in their prime) air wing should have.

If you really want ground pounders?... alright Centurion Sized Clone troopers with a basic 30inch range and average weapon but comes up to 20 a squad. Powersledges for CC.

Elite-Think Perturabo's "Iron Circle"

HQ- A single upgraded ground pounders that's a bamf.

FA- Skimmer that's basically a rhino teleport Homer weapons platform that gives weapon upgrades to the local ground pounders.

HS- A land raider Skimmer weapons platform.... give it the D?

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Could totally live with adding that Heli-Fortress and walker concept from the movie Avatar