Author |
Message |
 |
|
 |
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/26 02:30:16
Subject: Battle damage - real scratches vs painted scratches
|
 |
Dakka Veteran
|
I recently did some research into applying weathering effects to my Chaos Space Marine's armor. I was surprised that practically all of the sources I consulted used painting techniques to convey scratches/scrapes/dents and the like. I had expected to find at least some examples of physical alterations to achieve these effects. Obviously, there are reasons why this would not always be the best choice, wanting to be able to strip/repaint/repurpose a model for example. Also, you would likely still have to paint in such a way as to properly convey depth/texture etc.
I recently finished a model which featured some pre-molded cuts/scratches and it led me to thinking about it again. So, what's your opinion on the subject?
The damage I referred to is visible in the images below, on the impaled Space Marine helmet.
Thanks for sharing your opinions!
Heretic Tom
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2016/11/27 18:41:11
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/26 03:32:34
Subject: Battle damage - real scratches vs painted scrathes
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
I think the big problem is if you cut and scratch the model it tends to...peel I guess would be the best word?
It is a plastic model when cut and scratched it tends to scratch and peel like plastic. Where things like metal tend to get dented around the area then the scratch.
So I think unless you plan to cut a larger then wanted area and sculpt the damage it just wouldn't work well.
|
I need to go to work every day.
Millions of people on welfare depend on me. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/26 07:51:51
Subject: Battle damage - real scratches vs painted scrathes
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
|
There's nothing wrong at all with applying "real" damage to the model rather than painting damage on. It's really common on things like buildings and tanks, where bullet holes (drilled with a pin vice) and actual torn bits make the model much more convincing.
A lot of weathering on models, though, are small and numerous, and it would be very time consuming to nick all the bits just so. Plus, mistakes are quite hard to undo, unlike paint, which is easy enough to correct. OgreChubbs also makes a good point that it's not always easy to make damaged metal look convincing. I think that in many cases, using both techniques together yields the best results.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/26 09:13:27
Subject: Battle damage - real scratches vs painted scrathes
|
 |
Thane of Dol Guldur
|
its been done plenty. depends how heavily damaged you want your model to look.
|
Heresy World Eaters/Emperors Children
Instagram: nagrakali_love_songs |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/26 13:14:20
Subject: Battle damage - real scratches vs painted scrathes
|
 |
Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
|
I have a weathering dvd which shows a guy stabbing a tank with a pin before painting. He them applied an oil wash wiping off the excess so the pin marks were just tiny brown dots. He then dragged a damp brush down across these marks which then dragged some of the trapped paint down the model creating very realistic rust stains. Automatically Appended Next Post: I went a bit further with this puppy:
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/06/26 13:16:22
Check out my gallery here
Also I've started taking photos to use as reference for weathering which can be found here. Please send me your photos so they can be found all in one place!! |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/27 09:32:52
Subject: Battle damage - real scratches vs painted scrathes
|
 |
Dakka Veteran
|
bubber wrote:I have a weathering dvd which shows a guy stabbing a tank with a pin before painting. He them applied an oil wash wiping off the excess so the pin marks were just tiny brown dots. He then dragged a damp brush down across these marks which then dragged some of the trapped paint down the model creating very realistic rust stains.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
I went a bit further with this puppy:

Interesting. That land raider is the most realistically rusty, corroded looking model I have ever seen
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/27 12:26:45
Subject: Battle damage - real scratches vs painted scrathes
|
 |
Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
|
Cheers Mr Tom.
The only paint on it is the metallics, the rest is weathering powders over a base of Halford's red oxide primer.
|
Check out my gallery here
Also I've started taking photos to use as reference for weathering which can be found here. Please send me your photos so they can be found all in one place!! |
|
 |
 |
|