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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 20:11:58
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Eldarain wrote:My 20 Assault Marines I am building around are very grateful. Did the 1 Melta Bomb per squad in assault FaQ go through for 30k?
If it updates the core rulebook, it applies to 30k, which uses the core rulebook for its rules.
Just take a Power Fist or Thunder Hammer and call it a day!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 20:31:52
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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em_en_oh_pee wrote:Casti wrote:Is any knight able to be taken as a lord of war for a legion list or is there a specific list to choose from?
"War Machine Detachment: 1-2 Super-heavy vehicles of the same unit type, each with a Hull Points value of 8 or less, and each chosen either from the specific army list for the Primary Detachment, the Questoris Knights army list found in the Crusade Imperialis army list..."
So basically any Knight, generally speaking. Which is pretty awesome!
Is that the wording from the current book, or the new one dropping next week? We've seen the page that lists the specific LoW choices allowed from other Imperial Armour books.
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 21:23:13
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Tannhauser42 wrote: em_en_oh_pee wrote:Casti wrote:Is any knight able to be taken as a lord of war for a legion list or is there a specific list to choose from?
"War Machine Detachment: 1-2 Super-heavy vehicles of the same unit type, each with a Hull Points value of 8 or less, and each chosen either from the specific army list for the Primary Detachment, the Questoris Knights army list found in the Crusade Imperialis army list..."
So basically any Knight, generally speaking. Which is pretty awesome!
Is that the wording from the current book, or the new one dropping next week? We've seen the page that lists the specific LoW choices allowed from other Imperial Armour books.
The new book dropped and that is from it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 21:40:26
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Fixture of Dakka
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Eldarain wrote:My 20 Assault Marines I am building around are very grateful. Did the 1 Melta Bomb per squad in assault FaQ go through for 30k?
It's not even gone through for 40k...
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tremere47-fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate, leads to triple riptide spam |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 21:59:55
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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pm713 wrote: Eldarain wrote:My 20 Assault Marines I am building around are very grateful. Did the 1 Melta Bomb per squad in assault FaQ go through for 30k?
It's not even gone through for 40k...
I can see an FAQ dismissing this ruling from FW anyway, like the sniper rule for vets
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/15 23:15:21
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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There isnt yet an official FAQ for 40k 7th its a draft subject to changes, however if it becomes the official released FAQ or 8th drops with it then you can worry and hope for a FW FAQ, until then a powerfist is always useful for stuff but meltabombs are killer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/16 00:46:07
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Despised Traitorous Cultist
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For the pride of the legion rite of war, apparently you need to have more or equal amount of units with the legiones astartes than those without. Is somone able to confirm this and do dedicated transport count towards that number?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/16 01:55:28
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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King Amroth wrote:There isnt yet an official FAQ for 40k 7th its a draft subject to changes, however if it becomes the official released FAQ or 8th drops with it then you can worry and hope for a FW FAQ, until then a powerfist is always useful for stuff but meltabombs are killer.
Draft doesn't mean subject to changes in rulings, just format and clarity of ruling. These will be official, so best embrace them now and be ready.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/16 02:19:39
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Regular Dakkanaut
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em_en_oh_pee wrote: King Amroth wrote:There isnt yet an official FAQ for 40k 7th its a draft subject to changes, however if it becomes the official released FAQ or 8th drops with it then you can worry and hope for a FW FAQ, until then a powerfist is always useful for stuff but meltabombs are killer.
Draft doesn't mean subject to changes in rulings, just format and clarity of ruling. These will be official, so best embrace them now and be ready.
This.
I find that people who like the changes will push for them to be applied to their games now. Those that may not benefit would want just the opposite.
Best to discuss this with your opponent before the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/16 12:25:25
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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em_en_oh_pee wrote: King Amroth wrote:There isnt yet an official FAQ for 40k 7th its a draft subject to changes, however if it becomes the official released FAQ or 8th drops with it then you can worry and hope for a FW FAQ, until then a powerfist is always useful for stuff but meltabombs are killer.
Draft doesn't mean subject to changes in rulings, just format and clarity of ruling. These will be official, so best embrace them now and be ready.
That is exactly what draft means, at this time they are clearing up rule misconceptions etc however the documents they have released are not official yet and are subject to change by their own word, if you wish to use them then you must get permission from your opponent and remember that when released officially it may not say the same thing as it does now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/16 13:45:42
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Except that the rulings will be the same. They made that clear. It is only about clarity and wording, not the ruling. So we all might as well embrace it, because that is what we are getting. Not sure why people keep resisting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/16 14:51:59
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Fixture of Dakka
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em_en_oh_pee wrote:Except that the rulings will be the same. They made that clear. It is only about clarity and wording, not the ruling. So we all might as well embrace it, because that is what we are getting. Not sure why people keep resisting.
Because some of the rulings are terrible.
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tremere47-fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate, leads to triple riptide spam |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/16 15:46:48
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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pm713 wrote: em_en_oh_pee wrote:Except that the rulings will be the same. They made that clear. It is only about clarity and wording, not the ruling. So we all might as well embrace it, because that is what we are getting. Not sure why people keep resisting.
Because some of the rulings are terrible.
And, at least one has also been changed already due to feedback.
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/16 16:05:49
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Fixture of Dakka
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Tannhauser42 wrote:pm713 wrote: em_en_oh_pee wrote:Except that the rulings will be the same. They made that clear. It is only about clarity and wording, not the ruling. So we all might as well embrace it, because that is what we are getting. Not sure why people keep resisting.
Because some of the rulings are terrible.
And, at least one has also been changed already due to feedback.
What was changed?
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tremere47-fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate, leads to triple riptide spam |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/16 16:20:36
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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They made the Dreadnought attack bonus an official errata rather than a suggested 'if both players agree' designer's note thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/16 16:30:54
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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The fact that the overwhelmingly positive response to the dreadnought ruling made them declare it an official update now shows that they are taking into account what people say. One of the next ones im expecting is the increasing scouts to ws4 bs4 to become official. Automatically Appended Next Post: Rulings like that are the more likely to be confirmed faster as they are more about bringing older armies more in line with the current state of game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/17 03:14:46
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Fresh-Faced New User
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another small change i noticed was that the extra armour on storm eagles are now 5p Points instead of 10
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/17 05:32:09
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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saitani wrote:another small change i noticed was that the extra armour on storm eagles are now 5p Points instead of 10 
totally worth it now!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 00:23:56
Subject: Re:New legion astartes book
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Any word on destroyers? Anyone?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 00:25:57
Subject: Re:New legion astartes book
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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No change. Sadly. But with so much dropping in price, them being a bit expensive isn't as much a burden. I mean, just seeing that new Moritat model from FW Open makes me want them more than ever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 00:35:39
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Hierarch
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actually, one change for destroyers is that Rad Missles are fleshbane now, where iirc hey where poison 3+ before
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Tamereth wrote:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 00:36:53
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Nah they were Fleshbane in the previous Red Book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 00:40:45
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Hierarch
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Ah, just me missremembering then. Could servitors always take them?
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Tamereth wrote:
We'll take your Magnus leak and raise you plastic sisters, take that internet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 00:42:18
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Nope, that's new (as is Servitors being able to take Missile Launchers at all). God I can't wait for my book to arrive... looking forward to being able to see all these changes in person to be able to update my list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 02:59:50
Subject: Re:New legion astartes book
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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em_en_oh_pee wrote:
No change. Sadly. But with so much dropping in price, them being a bit expensive isn't as much a burden. I mean, just seeing that new Moritat model from FW Open makes me want them more than ever.
Well yeah, but with the assault marine price drop, now you're REALLY paying a premium for your destroyers. I don't know, unless the meta shifts more in the direction of blob troops, and thus resulting in me needing a way to really cut down MEQs, I'll be surprised if I bother with destroyers. And I like my moritat!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 03:18:59
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Hierarch
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You would never take them without MLs right now, for sure, but fleshbane AP3 is pretty good man, especially against mechanicum robits who force rerolls on poison (do they also do so to fleshbane? I don't think so, but the robit rules still confuse me tbh)
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Tamereth wrote:
We'll take your Magnus leak and raise you plastic sisters, take that internet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 03:19:59
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Oooh yeah, good question. Those missiles could do some real damage against the mechanicum.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 03:24:13
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Hierarch
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and now you can also take Servitors with them (assuming your techmarine takes rad grenades.) So the ability to have a Rad Gunline is truly real.
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Tamereth wrote:
We'll take your Magnus leak and raise you plastic sisters, take that internet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 03:26:22
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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And then give the techmarine a Cortex Controller so you can have your own Ad Mech stompies.
Poor Destroyers... getting outclassed by a bunch of mindless, lobotomised slaves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 07:17:55
Subject: New legion astartes book
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Battleship Captain
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do they also do so to fleshbane? I don't think so, but the robit rules still confuse me tbh
They do. But a 2+ with a compulsory reroll is stlll bloody good when firing on a T7 target....
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Termagants expended for the Hive Mind: ~2835
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