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Ketara wrote: May has been making very interesting noises so far, now we're a couple of weeks into her tenure as Prime Minister. To recap:-
-Her speech upon accepting the position was about social equality/communities (as opposed to Dave's "we're all in it together").
-She's spent virtually the entire last two weeks jetting about the place. Her priority visits were to the other parts of the UK, the capitals of France, Italy & Germany, and Eastern Europe.
-Her stated policy priorities so far have been cracking down on executive pay, pushing for worker representation in big firms, and prosecuting modern slavery to the full extent of the law.
-She's explicitly tied the right and conditions of EU foreigners to stay here to that which our own expats receive after brexit.
-She's called an immediate review of Hinkley.
-The commitment to eliminating the budget deficit has removed.
-She booted out the old Etonians for the most part from Cabinet, and replaced them with more female and middle class background MP's.
-She's backed Trident.
-The grammar schools have been mooted as making a comeback.
This is all very interesting. It's certainly a very different government to that which Cameron was running, and it clearly has very different priorities. I know we're still in the honeymoon period, but I'm starting to feel cautiously optimistic. I'm starting to wonder if she might well end up being the first effective Prime Minister since Thatcher. 'Cause sure as beans is beans, Major and Cameron were placeholders, Blair an act, and Brown a disaster.
She's making some of the right noises,
however the review of the Hinkley point deal needed to come with a guarantee that if she decides not to go forward with it an alternative will be started within a year or two at most as we NEED the energy security it will provide (even if she decides to dump the climate change targets and go for a fossil fuel solution we need to make the decision and get started)
She also singularly failed to block (or even investigate) the Softbank takeover of ARM which is just the sort of jewel in the crown company she's previously said she would not approve of being taken out of UK ownership so it's clear that what she says and what she does is going to be no better than any other politician
I have a bad feeling about the May government. At a time when we need to be staying attractive to buisnesses, she seems to be doing her level best to annoy them. As much pain as it causes, bringing back a balanced book was an essential task. Accusing Cameron/Osbourne of only thinking in the short term there is very unfair. To me, May abandoning this is a sign she is only thinking of the short term herself. All the noises she is making are again only a short term thing to keep the populace happy ready for another election. When article 50 hits the country needs to do all it can to keep buisness here. To me, what she is doing is going to have quite the oppisite effect. The sad thing is, without Brexit, I would fully support her desire to bring some sense to the corporate world. Now is not the time though.
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In some ways it's better to have a bad long-term plan you can change than a plan every afternoon to optimise tomorrow morning's newspaper headlines, which is how the Blair and Cameron governments tended to operate.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Here is an interesting piece on the Hinkley Point project and how it relates to Brexit and the Chinese.
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In the days after the Brexit vote, a favourite taunt of Leavers was to tell those who were warning of the difficulties of Brexit that such critics were “in denial” and were indulging in “wishful thinking”. Brexit meant Brexit and it was now inevitable. But it is now evident that it is the Brexiteers who are denying the challenges of reality and wishfully thinking away the problems they now face.
The Canadian diplomat Jeremy Kinsman has a scathing phrase for the predicament of the pro-Brexit UK government. The Brexiteers, the former high commissioner to the UK and ambassador to the EU, observed, “are the dog that caught the bus: they hadn’t thought what to do next”.
The UK government does not know what to do about Brexit. This is not a rhetorical exaggeration, it is a statement of fact. As the foreign affairs parliamentary select committee reported recently (paragraph 19):
“The previous Government’s considered view not to instruct key Departments
including the [Foreign and Commonwealth Office] to plan for the possibility that the electorate would vote to leave the EU amounted to gross negligence. It has exacerbated post-referendum uncertainty both within the UK and amongst key international partners, and made the task now facing the new Government substantially more difficult.”
(The committee, at paragraph 17, also generously adopted the view of this blog that it is not so much that the UK government does not have a plan for Brexit — it does not even know what is to go into a plan.)
The scale of the Brexit task ahead is becoming plain, even if there is still shapelessness in policy. Many would say the job is impossible, at least in the short to medium term.
Take for example the need for an exit agreement with the EU. In the memorable example of Gus O’Donnell, former cabinet secretary and head of the civil service: Greenland, population less than Croydon, one issue — fish, and it still took three years for it to leave what was then the EEC. There is no sensible reason to believe that the UK could extract itself from the EU (a more complex entity than the EEC) in the two years envisaged by Article 50.
This is no surprise: Article 50 was never intended to be a practical provision. It was there just for decoration. It was an ornament, not an instrument. According to Reuters, the former Italian prime minister Giuliano Amato is quoted as saying:
“I wrote Article 50, so I know it well,” Amato told a conference in Rome, saying he had inserted it specifically to prevent the British from complaining that there was no clear cut, official way for them to bail out of the Union.
“My intention was that it should be a classic safety valve that was there, but never used. It is like having a fire extinguisher that should never have to be used. Instead, the fire happened.”
Another person claiming credit for Article 50 (you would think no one would want to admit to authoring the provision) is the British diplomat Lord Kerr. He explains that it was inserted into the Lisbon treaty as a sop to the Eurosceptic media.
Regardless of who wrote the provision, no one can say that it provides a feasible process: the departing member state may have the immense advantage of setting the timing of the notification; but then the see-saw reverses dramatically, giving the remaining member states a near-absolute advantage in negotiating position. Any extension of the two-year period cannot be taken for granted, and so unless an agreement can be reached in less than two years, the member state is ejected. It would be a weird and unworkable way to deal with a complex negotiation of the nature required. Article 50 may have “worked” as a work-around negotiation ploy for Amato and Kerr but it does not work as a legal framework.
This is why any Brexit may perhaps be by a new treaty rather than by the unfit-for-purpose Article 50. But this would create new problems. Most notably, it could require a fresh referendum in the UK. It would also need unanimity by the remaining member states.
Then there are the international trade agreements that the Brexiteers say the UK should enter with the rest of the world. There are many difficulties here. The UK has no trade negotiators; the rest of the world will want to see what the UK-EU arrangement is before committing to a trade deal; and Britain has a weak and needy negotiating position. Such negotiation is as hard-headed an exercise as one can imagine, and the inexperienced UK ministers and officials will be lambs wandering into a slaughterhouse.
The competency of the British government to negotiate high-value complex commercial agreements on important matters at speed and under media pressure against unsentimental counter-parties can be summed up in three letters: PFI. The deals are disasters waiting to happen.
It cannot even be taken for granted that the UK will have an easy ride becoming a World Trade Organisation member in its own right. As former WTO staffer Peter Ungphakorn points out, there is nothing simple about the UK gaining WTO status post-Brexit.
In the face of these stark problems, what has marked the first month since the referendum result is a certain lack of seriousness by the Brexit government. The new international trade secretary, Liam Fox, is reduced to boasting of the opening of three one-person trade kiosks in the US, while his remarks about the UK leaving a customs union had to be “clarified” by the prime minister. Neither the US nor the Canadians are in any hurry to commence negotiations before they can see what Brexit looks like. There is confusion in Whitehall about the remits of the three Brexit departments. There are desperate (and possibly unlawful) demands that trade deals be tied to overseas aid. In an important post, Charles Grant has detailed the six deals the UK government has to do. Serious issues such as the status of EU nationals in the UK and what will happen to “acquired rights” on Brexit have still not been addressed.
No one in government has a clue. Pro-Brexit supporters demand a sudden Brexit without any regard to these problems: see this Bernard Jenkin piece in the FT, and the comments beneath are perhaps the most brutal you will see on this website.
In the meantime, the hurdles to Brexit are accumulating. Theresa May, the new prime minister, has spoken of there being a need for a UK-wide approach, and she now also wants to consult British dependencies. Politicians in Scotland and Northern Ireland (majorities in both of which voted to remain in the EU) are alert and agile in turning the fall-out from Brexit to their benefit. As with the (now seemingly abandoned) British Bill of Rights, the devolution settlements and the Good Friday Agreement are not mere after-thoughts for Westminster politicians, but things that shape what can and cannot be done easily by the supposedly sovereign parliament.
None of this is to say Brexit is impossible. It can be conceivably brought about if there is sufficient political skill and will-power. In its rewriting of domestic law and policy and its refiguration of foreign and trade policy, Brexit will be the single biggest exercise by any UK government in peace time — and all this on top of governing a country in a period of austerity with limited public spending and a small majority. And it is for an objective that few in Westminster and Whitehall genuinely want.
The 52 per cent vote for Leave in a non-binding referendum will increasingly seem flimsy against the sheer magnitude of the task ahead. If Leave politicians were candid and realistic about the years, sweat and tears ahead, you could believe they were up to it. But they maintain it is easy, and unless their attitude changes, it is this complacency that will defeat them. Denialism and wishful thinking are not enough.
David Allen Green, a lawyer and journalist, writes the law and policy blog for FT.com.
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I'll be frank, that article reads somewhat tilted towards the old 'doom and gloom' aspect.
For example, declaring 'Serious issues such as the status of EU nationals in the UK have not been addressed' is somewhat inaccurate, considering they've been deliberately tied to British expat rights as a negotiating ploy, and it would have been bad strategy to give anything away on the matter before that. Liam Fox 'is reduced' when he's only been in the position two and a half weeks, no-one in the Government has announced anything about the Brexit negotiating intent as of yet, and nothing major can be announced until we do start to leave. WTO membership in our own right is apparently difficult (it really isn't or Zimbabwe wouldn't be a member). I daresay we could have something in place ready to sign before we left the EU, there's no 'you can only discuss it once the article for leaving the EU has been triggered' aspect of the situation. It's probably already under discussion.
There are some good points in there, but they feel a trifle buried under the hyperbole and end of the world schpiel.
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This subject has been talked to death on this forum, but if the Tories are really serious about a bright future for the UK, sorting this problem with a long term plan, should be a national priority.
I predict that we'll just muddle along, and it'll be business as usual...
It's easier said than done, but If I were Prime Minister, this would be my vision for the UK. Let's pretend I'm not a Scottish independence supporter
If you're looking for specific detail, you've come to the wrong place
1) Start building more bloody houses!
2) Energy and food security another top priority.
3) Security against climate change. A lot of our food is grown in East Anglia, but this is an area vulnerable to flooding...
4) To hell with Trident and start spending money on conventional things we do need, like destroyers to protect this island, and the army. Seeing as we're more likely to be in a conventional war than a nuclear one, this makes perfect sense to me.
5) Scrap the Lords. Elected senate, and at long last, some kind of federal system
6) Put an end to that black home that is London, which sucks the life out of the rest of the UK, and start re-balancing the UK's economy away from London.
In short, I'm calling for new trade deals, a Britain that builds our way out of our problems with massive infrastructure and public works programs, a coherent foreign policy, an education system fit for the 21st century, and so on...
Rant over
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I would agree. Particularly more council and social housing projects. It is also time to look again at high rise buildings especially in areas where space is at a premium.
There should be some consideration towards redevelopment of brown field sites and the renovation of existing near derelict housing stock.
The problem with house building is that infrastructure needs to be developed in order to cope. The last 40 or so years has seen infrastructure falling way behind even the mediocre pace of home building.
Can't I say I agree with the economics, but it's more coherent than Corbyn has been so far.
I’ve recounted several times, already, that despite the media suggestions I did not, as such, write Corbynomics. It’s true that a significant number (but not all) of the ideas in Jeremy’s economic manifesto (which has now gone from his website, and of which I never seemed to keep an electronic copy (NB: now located)) were written by me, but not for Jeremy per se, and certainly not in the way in which he presented them.
The three main ideas are summarised here. They were more progressive taxation to create greater equality both as a matter of fact and to deliver justice in the way that the deficit was tackled. Second, the tax gap was to be tackled to provide funding and to create a level playing field for business. And third, People’s Quantitative Easing was, in combination with a National Investment Bank, to be used to fund a new industrial strategy. What the document did not say was what the overall vision was: it focussed on policies not philosophies but it rattled the mainstream media and much of Labour nonetheless.
A year on it’s hard to see why. Progressive taxation was hardly a surprising proposal from a left wing politician whilst closing the tax gap is just about everyone’s aim: the only problem was Jeremy used my £120 billion figure and did not make clear that not all of it could be collected. And People’s Quantitative Easing now looks as if it will be delivered by the Tories. All were issues on which I had written extensively: of course I was going to support a politician who said they were going to use them.
So why didn’t things work out? There are four fundamental reasons.
The first was a lack of conviction. John McDonnell became shadow chancellor and the first thing he said was he would sign up to George Osborne’s bizarre, and now abandoned, fiscal charter, guaranteeing a balanced budget. It was lunacy. I told him so. He still put it in his conference speech only to have to U turn on it. But the damage was done, and has remained done. The message was clear: a Corbyn / McDonnell opposition was going to do economic policy on Tory ground. Radicalism disappeared and never returned. Labour’s own fiscal charter is evidence of that: it was re-heated neoliberals Balls at best. If this was meant to be what left wing economics was meant to deliver then it looked very much more like a lot more of the same failed policies to me based on a total misunderstanding of what the role of the government in the economy actually is..
Second, Corbynomics disappeared. PQE, which had been the defining economic and industrial symbol of Jeremy’s election campaign – the policy that was going to deliver growth, jobs, new industry and hope – might well have never happened. It’s taken Stephen Crabb and Theresa May to revive it. In its place nothing was offered at all; just vague words at best for months and then reference to a National Investment Bank on occasion but nothing else.
Third, I had the opportunity to see what was happening inside the PLP. The leadership wasn’t confusing as much as just silent. There was no policy direction, no messaging, no direction, no co-ordination, no nothing. Shadow ministers appeared to have been left with no direction as to what to do. It was shambolic. The leadership usually couldn’t even get a press release out on time to meet print media deadlines and then complained they got no coverage.
Fourth, and critically, there was no vision. A team of economic advisers were set up, but never properly consulted, let alone listened to. Three enquiries, into the Treasury, Bank of England and HM Revenue & Customs were established and given far too long to report: none has as yet. I gather the tax report is in draft: I have not seen it. Whether it will be presented is anyone’s guess. The Bank of England study has collapsed with the departure of Danny Blanchflower. Of the Treasury report I haven’t a clue. The point is though that for coming on for a year now policy has been on hold for these reports and the world has moved on. That’s just not competent.
The same problem has been seen around Brexit and so many other issues. If Jeremy and John had known what they were doing these impasses would not have happened. The impression left is that they have created a movement that hates what’s happening in the world and can get really angry about it, but then has not a clue what to do about it.
If this movement was really visionary that would not be the case. Vision is about having a guiding principle that directs your actions. It is about what you want to achieve. It is positive. It can never be negative. So the Tories know they want to make the market ever friendlier for a limited number of businesses: that is apparent in all their policies, like it or not. All that I have got so far from the Labour left is a message of what it is opposed to. That’s something. But it’s a long way from being enough. Vision is about knowing what goes in something’s place and this is what I cannot see coming from Momentum or supporters like Paul Mason, whose book Post Capitalism in many ways typifies anti-visionary thinking by offering nothing of substance at the end of a long analysis.
Vision in required on the economy and what it is for; about the role of the private sector, and its banks; on tax and benefits and social justice; on health and so much more.
It would not have been hard: try this knocked up in minutes.
The UK economy exists to meet the needs both material and personal of people in this country and should be organised so that all get just rewards for their efforts, a chance for personal development and the opportunity to work how they wish to meet their needs.
The state partners with private enterprise in fulfilling this goal: each is vital, both add value and have a role to play. In particular the private sector must adhere to the rules of fair markets established by the state and pay its taxes. Finance is the servant of markets, and not otherwise. It must therefore be kept in a proportionate role.
We need a tax and benefits policy that integrates with macroeconomic goals for growth and inflation whilst being consistent with the government’s goals for social and economic justice, including in tackling inequality and overcoming disadvantage in all its forms.
Health must be available for all at lowest possible cost and highest efficiency. This requires considerable integration of resources and leaves no room for fractured supply in quasi markets which do not reflect the diverse and vey real health needs of people or populations as a whole.
It would be easy to write more: if anyone had shadow ministers would ave had a clue what they were meant to be doing. But no one offered anything like that. There was no idea what policy was for, no big ideas and so not many small ones either. The result was a mess and that’s because it seems like Corbynism is an empty shell that opposes capitalism for the sake of the oppressed but has no clue as to what to yet in its place. And that’s not responsible, it’s not electable and it’s not going to work.
So what’s next? It’s not my job to tell Labour. If anyone wants to listen they’re welcome to do so though. I suggest five things.
First, a clear policy for growth that is intended to end a recessionary environment. This involves borrowing, state spending, lower taxes for the time being, the creation of jobs in every constituency (which is one of the primary goals of the Green New Deal) and the bank up of PQE if required to manage debt, if required. Nothing is more important than this. New housing has to be at the heart of this programme, as is the creation of a sustainable foundation for a twenty first century economy. This is building for the next generation.
Then some key obstacles to progress need to be tackled. PQE has to be used to end PFI to end the burden it creates on public services. It could also be used to cancel student debt, liberating large numbers who can never dream because of the debt burden they suffer, and which drags down the economy with them. And the crushing blows to so many imposed over the last years – from attacks on those with disabilities to the bedroom tax – need to be reversed, and could be.
Third, health has to become universal and all vestiges of the internal market have to be swept away.
Fourth, education has to be free. Corporation tax increases can address part of this: growth and the tax gap the rest, with ease.
And as to Brexit? Nothing should be agreed without a second referendum: the EU has allowed them before. It should do for the UK. Implicit in that is discussion on migration, and the creation of a positive programme for the role it can play in the UK both economically and socially which does not, however, ignore the social constraint on the rate of change any society can manage to handle successfully.
Is this enough? No, of course not (there is nothing on defence, corporate reform, the environment per se and much more) but I offer it to show a vision can be matched to policy that could deliver costed and affordable change that economic theory can show should deliver growth with manageable debt in a way that provides a coherent and deliverable alternative to anything this government is offering, and which provides people with real hope.
I have not seem or heard a hint of much of anything like this from Jeremy Corbyn since last summer – and then I was doing all the running for him. I would like to hear it form another candidate for Labour leader now. If we don’t I will despair about the vision of so many people engaged in politics with no clear idea as to why.
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Labour and the left teeter on the brink of disaster. There, I said it. I’ll explain why. But first, it has become increasingly common in politics to reduce disagreements to bad faith. Rather than accepting somebody has a different perspective because, well, that’s what they think, you look for an ulterior motive instead. Everything from self-aggrandisement to careerism to financial corruption to the circles in which the other person moves: any explanation but an honest disagreement. It becomes a convenient means of avoiding talking about substance, of course. Because of this poisonous political atmosphere, the first chunk of this blog will be what many will consider rather self-indulgent (lots of ‘I’ and ‘me’, feel free to mock), but hopefully an explanation nonetheless of where I’m coming from. However long it is, it will be insufficient: I can guarantee the same charges will be levelled.
There are some who expect me to mount an uncritical defence of Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership and leave it at that, suppressing any fears that I have. The Establishment media have criticisms of his leadership more than covered, after all. The duty of one of the few left-wing journalists with a public platform is simply to rebut this onslaught, and keep reservations to a minimum. My failure to do so has led to a number of charges being levelled against me.
One: the Guardian have gagged me, or I have spent so long there I have succumbed to ‘Guardianitis’: a liberal disdain for the radical left, essentially. The Guardian have never gagged me, I am free to say exactly what I want; and I’m not staff — I barely even go in to The Guardian. I spend far more of my life at left-wing rallies and with left-wing activists than I do associating with any members of the media world. Second: that I am a careerist. If you drew a Venn diagram of Corbyn supporters and people who read my articles, buy my books, or turn up to my talks, well, the results would be pretty obvious. From a career perspective, the best approach would be to suppress any fears and simply uncritically defend the leadership. Third: that I have never really been left-wing at all. Spending my life agitating for left-wing causes and movements seems like a slightly odd choice in hindsight, in that case. And if I’m not really left-wing, where does that leave most of Britain’s population? Fourth: that I am shifting politically to the right. Some of this is coming from people with — let’s just say — an eclectic political history. Some of the people who, 18 months ago, were berating me for believing the best bet for the left was through the Labour party (they would mockingly reduce my political strategy to “Join Labour!” — they have now joined Labour) are now berating me for insufficient loyalty to the Labour leadership. But my beliefs on how to win change in Britain — and what that change should look like — have remained stubbornly static: a left-led Labour Party that convinces enough people to win power, backed up by broader social movements and mobilisation. Fifth: that I support the coup against Corbyn. But I have repeatedly damned it, not least as a disgrace at a time of national crisis and effectively shutting down the functioning of the Opposition when all the scrutiny should be focused on the Tories.
Some are claiming that Labour’s current plight is like the Miners’ Strike. You just have to pick sides. You may have reservations with the strategy being pursued, but voicing those concerns achieves nothing but playing into the hands of the enemy. But there is no comparison between an industrial struggle on the one hand, and building enough popular support for a political party to win power on the other.
As a multitude of producers can attest, over the last few weeks I’ve turned down every request to do TV and radio because I didn’t think I had anything helpful or constructive to say. To criticise is to join in a chorus of media attacks, goes the argument. There’s a difference: the vehement media attacks on Corbyn come from those who do not want the left to succeed. But my starting point is exactly the opposite. I worry about the left failing, and even disappearing forever. You may disagree with me, and passionately so, but what I say and write is genuinely and entirely based on what I consider to be the left’s best interests. You may think I’m completely wrong, but that is my sole motive, and it is genuinely in good faith. Mock me with pictures of tiny violins if you want, but I cannot even begin to put into words how much I’ve agonised over Labour’s terrible plight.
Here is my political background. When I left university in 2005, I worked in the office of the now Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell for two-and-a-half years, and helped to run his (abortive) leadership campaign in 2006–07. My Parliamentary badge sponsor was Katy Clark, then a Labour MP who it turned out knew my uncle as a fellow party activist in the 1980s, and who is now Corbyn’s political secretary. My colleague was Andrew Fisher, now Jeremy Corbyn’s director of policy. Friends who were fellow Parliamentary ‘bag-carriers’ included Cat Smith, Jeremy Corbyn’s researcher and now an MP in the Shadow Cabinet. Other Shadow Cabinet members I’ve known for years include my friend Clive Lewis, who I campaigned for years before the election, and Richard Burgon, whose house I stayed at when I did talks in Leeds. Seumas Milne is my friend and colleague at The Guardian. Team members like ex-New Economics Foundation economist James Meadway I’ve long known through political activism. Much of the leadership team are my personal friends, and some I have known for a decade or more. And as for Corbyn himself — well, I’ve known him for years, and shared a platform with him many a time. During the leadership campaign, I was at the first Corbyn campaign meeting, and the last campaign meeting, too. I not only spoke at Jeremy Corbyn leadership rallies: I introduced him at the final one. I helped choose the name for Momentum. This isn’t a milieu that I know well: it’s a milieu I’m part of.
When Corbyn stood for the leadership, the expectation — including Corbyn himself — was that he would lose, but do well enough to shift the terms of debate. When it became increasingly clear he was likely to win, I was not alone in worrying about the phenomenal odds that would be stacked against him, but I wanted to be constructive about dealing with them. To say that I was desperate for it to work is an understatement. Some berate me for failing to give sufficient weight to how damaging attacks from the Establishment have been. I know how the Establishment treat their opponents: I literally wrote the book on it. A year ago, I wrote a piece for The New Statesman entitled ‘If Jeremy Corbyn wins, prepare for a firestorm.’ Here’s an excerpt:
“I would never underestimate the ruthlessness and effectiveness of the PLP and media establishment linking hands to turn victory into an opportunity for organisational and ideological destruction of the left,” one Labour MP tells me. “The PLP will do whatever makes them look best and makes us look worse. And they may be happy to endure a split until Corbyn is deposed.” Hostile MPs will obsessively leak to the media; they will cite Corbyn’s rebellious record as justification to refuse to tow the line; their strategy will be to bleed a Corbyn leadership to death.
As Chris Mullin — the ex-Labour minister and writer of A Very British Coup, which explores the fate of a left-wing Labour Prime Minister at the hands of the Establishment — puts it: “The media will go bananas, of course. Every bit of his past life will be raked through and every position he has ever taken will be thrown back under him.” People Jeremy Corbyn has met, or has been close to, will be scrutinised in great deal. Quotes will be taken out of context and twisted. His political positions will be ruthlessly distorted. The media will seek to portray Labour as being in a state of chaos (a narrative fuelled by right-wing MPs); and Corbyn as dangerous or ridiculous or both.
This article has recently gone viral again and been described by many passionate Corbyn supporters as prophetic. It wasn’t. It was entirely obvious what was going to happen. The issue is how such an onslaught is dealt with, unless you adopt a defeatist approach and believe that the general public are sheep and will simply be instructed what to do by the Establishment.
In the weeks before Corbyn’s victory, I wrote a long detailed suggested strategy for his leadership to follow. Was it all right? No, I am just one flawed human being with my own flawed ideas. I do think it was essentially the right strategy (well duhh, that’s why I wrote it). When it became clear such a strategy was not going to be put into practice, I fell into despondency. The most important advice I could give was that first impressions were critical: most people are not losers like me who take a daily interest in politics. They might look up at their TV sets, see who this new leader of the Labour party is, and if they don’t like what they see: well, a bad first impression is very difficult to shift. If you do not define yourself, you will be defined by your opponents. Or as I said at the time:
Corbyn’s leadership acceptance speech the day he won — his first real opportunity to speak to the country — was not, let’s say, a classic in the genre of reaching out to a wider audience. The appointment of the Shadow Cabinet was a PR disaster. For the first few days, the new leader was barely on TV, even as the full force of the British media was deployed to define him in the most negative way imaginable: one exception being a disastrous encounter in which he remained silent as he was pursued by Sky News journalists yelling questions at him. I wrote what were pretty desperate columns pleading for a media strategy. As Corbyn was defined as a threat to national security by the Conservative Party — a claim laughed at on Twitter, but all too poisonously effective in the real world — he infamously failed to sing the national anthem at a Battle of Britain event in a country where supporters of an elected head of state (like me) are in a small minority. A speech to the TUC a few days after his victory similarly failed to reach out to the country. Jeremy Corbyn began his term in office as the first Leader of the Opposition ever to have a negative personal rating. His ratings slid from there.
After a few days, I was in a pit of despair. And, funnily enough, it was Neale Coleman — Corbyn’s newly hired policy director — who tried to drag me out of it. I went round to his house a week after the leadership contest, and (frankly) was not in a good place. You always talk about hope in public, he told me. Now you have to help put that into practice and help make this work. So, through Coleman, I suggested ideas for his speech. (Just so we’re clear: I was open about my role from the very beginning).
The team didn’t have a speechwriter, and normally speeches like this are months in the making: the final speech was pretty messy and lacked a clear coherent structure. What I thought was critical was for the leadership to come out of its comfort zone and address the weaknesses his enemies were honing in on. This point stands today. In particularly, I wanted them to go hard on patriotism (given he was being defined as someone hostile to his own country) and (almost obsessively) policies focusing on the burgeoning ranks of the self-employed (which is how the speech was initially trailed); to make the case that, rather than simply being anti-austerity, Labour was pro-something else; as well as building a coalition of middle-income and low-income people and addressing issues like immigration. I genuinely thought — and think — it is possible for a left-led Labour Party under concerted attack to cut through with an inspiring alternative that would resonate with millions of people.
The last few months have been a story of relentless Establishment hostility towards Corbyn’s leadership. Personally, I repeatedly tried to challenge it myself: see here or here for example. But it was faced with an utterly ineffective strategy to deal with it and cut through with a popular message. I’ve already said that my own preference was somebody would take over from Jeremy Corbyn from the new intake like Clive Lewis in, say, 2018: Brexit, the Labour coup (launched disastrously at a time of national crisis), and the looming threat of a snap election clearly complicate that.
Let me put this in stark terms. As Jeremy Corbyn is surrounded by cheering crowds, Labour generally, and the left specifically, are teetering on the edge of looming calamity. I’m not apportioning blame: there are lots of factors at play. But that’s how I genuinely feel, and it would be as dishonest as it would be irresponsible for me to suppress my actual views to try and maintain popularity among the people who read my work. I would happily sacrifice all of that if it was helpful for the things I believe in. Saying things I do not believe to be true for personal gain would reduce me to the status of a conman. All the things I do are motivated by a desire — however misplaced or wrong-headed — to make a positive contribution to politics; I can’t facilitate something harmful, even if that means saying things the people reading my work do not wish to hear.
There are those cheering now because — finally — ideas that haven’t been on the agenda for decades are finally back. But when I was growing up, to even mention left-wing ideas was to inevitably invite derision: oh here we go, back to Michael Foot, Labour’s 1983 electoral disaster. If Labour ends up being routed, then there’s a very good chance those ideas will once again be associated with calamitous defeat for a generation. A snap election is entirely plausible, and — as things stands, thanks to the actions of all sides of the Labour party — Labour faces electoral oblivion. And that’s why it feels like I’m at a party on the edge of a crumbling cliff. ‘Enjoy the party, stop being on such a downer!’ they’re all yelling. But all I can see is the cliff. And I’m desperate, at all costs, for us all not to fall off that cliff.
And that is why the questions below need answers. Not just for my own sanity, but for the future of the Labour party — the only means the left in this country has ever had to wield influence through national government — and the left as a whole. These answers deserve clear, coherent, detailed answers. Not answers which just make true believers feel good about themselves. Not political alchemy. There’s too much at stake for that.
How can the disastrous polling be turned around?
Labour’s current polling is calamitous. No party has ever won an election with such disastrous polling, or even come close. Historically any party with such terrible polling goes on to suffer a bad defeat.
Don’t take my word for it: listen to John McDonnell. During the leadership election last year he wrote: “It is inarguable that no modern party leader can win an election if behind in the polls on economic competence.” This is actually untrue: you can be behind on the economy and ahead on leadership and still win. It is when you are behind on both — as they are for the current leadership — that history says you are heading for disaster. According to ICM in mid-July, “on the team better able to manage the economy,” 53% of Britons opted for Theresa May and Philip Hammond, while 15% opted for Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell. Labour’s polling has deteriorated badly ever since Brexit and the botched coup. But it was always bad and far below what a party with aspirations for power should expect. Corbyn started his leadership with a net negative rating. (Ed Miliband — who went on to lose — started with a net 19% positive approval rating); it has since slumped to minus 41%. At this stage in the electoral cycle, Ed Miliband’s Labour had a clear lead over the Tories — and then went on to lose. But Labour have barely ever had a lead over the Tories since the last general election. When there is a slim lead, it is seized on with much excitement on social media: but it was the norm throughout the entire last Parliament for Labour to be ahead, often by a big distance. The Tories have now opened up a lead of up to 14 points — yes, undoubtedly partly caused by the destabilisation of the party by Corbyn’s opponents, but there it is. Numerous polls show that most Labour supporters are dissatisfied with his leadership, even if they show little faith in any alternative. One poll showed that one in three Labour voters think Theresa May would make a better Prime Minister than their own party leader and — most heartbreakingly of all — 18 to 24 year olds preferred May.
The response to this normally involves citing the size of rallies and the surge in Labour’s membership. There is no question that Jeremy Corbyn has inspired and enthused hundreds of thousands of people all over Britain. But Michael Foot attracted huge rallies across the country in the build-up to Labour’s 1983 general election disaster. When Neil Kinnock saw the huge crowd at the infamous Sheffield rally in 1992, he was undoubtedly convinced he was going to become Prime Minister. It did not happen. I’ve spent a considerable portion of my life speaking at rallies: I would not mistake what I saw before me as representative of the nation as a whole, which is why I have often urged that those attending protest rallies went out into their communities. The enthusiasm of a minority is not evidence that the polls are wrong. There are 65 million people in Britain. If a total of 300,000 turn up to supportive rallies, that means, 99.5% of the population have not done so. There are those who do argue the polls are wrong, of course. But unfortunately the evidence to date is that when the polls are wrong — as they were in 2015 — it is not in Labour’s favour.
Yes, it’s true that Labour has won all its by-elections since Jeremy Corbyn became leader, and increased majorities. But in his first year, the picture was the same with Ed Miliband. Neither did Corbyn do as badly in the local elections as was predicted. But Labour still lost seats — unprecedented for an the main opposition party for decades — and as Jeremy Corbyn said at the time: “the results were mixed. We are not yet doing enough to win in 2020.”
So my question is: how is this polling turned around? There is no precedent for a turnaround for such negative figures, so it needs a dramatic strategy. What is it? How will the weaknesses that existed before the coup be addressed, and how will confidence be built in him and his leadership?
2. Where is the clear vision?
Labour under Ed Miliband jumped around from vision to vision. The ‘squeezed middle’, ‘One Nation Labour’, ‘the British promise’, ‘predistribution’ (catchy). All of them were abstract. There was a lack of message discipline. Random policies were thrown into the ether but nothing brought them together with a clear overall vision. On the other hand, it is very easy to sum up the Cameron and Osborne’s Tories’ vision. Clearing up Labour’s mess. Long-term economic plan. Balancing the nation’s books. Reforming welfare. Taking the low-paid out of tax. Reducing immigration. Giving freedom to schools. All sentiments and slogans repeated ad infinitum. Labour canvassers would literally find voters repeating Tory attack lines back at them almost word for word on the doorstep.
What’s Labour’s current vision succinctly summed up? Is it “anti-austerity”? That’s an abstraction for most people. During the leaders’ debates at the last general election, the most googled phrase in Britain was ‘what is austerity?’ — after five years of it. ‘Anti-austerity’ just defines you by what you are against. What’s the positive vision, that can be understood clearly on a doorstep, that will resonate with people who aren’t particularly political?
When I asked Jeremy Corbyn what Labour’s vision under his leadership is, here was his response:
“An economy that doesn’t cut public expenditure as a principle, that instead is prepared to invest and participate in the widest economy in order to give opportunities and decency for everyone. A welfare system that doesn’t punish those with disabilities but instead supports people with disabilities. A health service that is there for all, for all time, without any charges and without any privatisation within that NHS. And a foreign policy that’s based on human rights, the promotion of democracy around the world.”
I’m not at all convinced that this is a vision which will resonate with the majority of people. Compare and contrast to the Tories’ messaging. So what is a clear vision for Labour that will resonate beyond those who, on social media and in rallies, show their enthusiasm for Corbyn now? This is a critical question and it needs an answer.
3. How are the policies significantly different from the last general election?
The Labour leadership effectively has the same fiscal rule as Ed Balls in the last election: balance the nation’s books, not to borrow for day-to-day spending, but do borrow in order to invest. The leadership proposes a British investment bank: again, in the last manifesto. The key policy at the launch of Corbyn’s leadership campaign were equal pay audits. That was also in the last manifesto.
Yes, the Labour leadership now says it’s anti-austerity: Corbyn told me in my interview that they weren’t pledging cuts, unlike Ed Balls. But as I say, their fiscal rule is effectively the same, including a focus on deficit reduction “Deficit denial is a non-starter for anyone to have economic credibility with the electorate,” wrote John McDonnell. Labour would renationalise the railways, he says: but this, again, beefs up Labour’s pledge under Miliband’s leadership. Labour would reverse NHS privatisation: again, Labour at the last election committed to repealing the Health and Social Care Act and regretted the extent of NHS private sector involvement under New Labour. Corbyn opposed the Iraq war: so did Miliband. The Labour leadership’s policy was to vote against the bombing of Syria, as it was under Miliband.
I’m somebody who campaigned for Corbyn, I’m a left-wing journalist. But I’m genuinely not clear on the policies being offered. It seems as though Ed Miliband presented his policies as less left-wing than they actually were, and now the current leadership presents them as more left-wing than they actually are. It’s presentation, style and sentiment that seem to differ most. The same people alienated by a similar offer are now the most enthusiastic about it. But surely the aim should be to develop radical policies and present them as being commonsense and moderate — not as super radical in a way the substance doesn’t justify. The danger is similar policies are being offered by a leadership regarded as less competent, more “extreme” and less popular.
It’s less than a year in to Corbyn’s already embattled leadership: there hasn’t been the time to develop clear new policies. Fine: but surely there needs to be a clear idea of what sort of policies will be offered, not least given what is at stake?
4. What’s the media strategy?
Yes, the media are always going to demonise a left-wing leader. But, again, if we just believe the public are robots who can be programmed what to think, then we might as well all give up. Sadiq Khan was not standing on a radical left programme in his London Mayoral bid. Nonetheless he was remorselessly portrayed as the puppet of extremists by his opponent and his ally — the capital’s only mass newspaper, as well as several national newspapers. He managed to counteract it, and won. His ratings are extremely favourable. The press lost.
Yet there doesn’t seem to be any clear media strategy. John McDonnell has actually made regular appearances at critical moments, and proved a solid performer. But Corbyn often seems entirely missing in action, particularly at critical moments: Theresa May becoming the new Prime Minister, the appointment of Boris Johnson as Foreign Secretary, the collapse of the Government’s economic strategy, the abolition of the Department of Energy and Climate Change, soaring hate crimes after Brexit, and so on. Where have been the key media interventions here? When Theresa May became Prime Minister, Labour’s initial response (via a press release from a Shadow Cabinet member) was to call for a snap general election, which (to be generous) seems politically suicidal. As Andrew Grice in the Independent points out, press releases are often sent out so late that they become useless.
Many of Corbyn’s key supporters will not recognise this picture, because they follow his social media accounts. The polling last year showed a huge gap between Corbyn supporters and the rest of the public when it comes to getting news off social media. Look: I could hardly be a more avid user of social media. Without sounding like bragging, my social media following isn’t insubstantial — I have 489,000 followers on Twitter, for example, and in June I had over 4 million profile visits and 46.3 million impressions. I set up a Facebook page last year and have 225,000 likes; I use YouTube, Instagram and Snapchat. Social media takes up all too much of my life.
But social media is no substitute — at all — for a coherent media strategy. Only a relatively tiny proportion of the population use Twitter, for example, to talk about or access political news: disproportionately those who are already signed up believers. Take Facebook. At the last general election the Tories used targeted Facebook ads very effectively. There are a few points here. This is very different from people joining Facebook groups or sharing Facebook memes. This is online advertising. As one of Labour’s social media team put it to me, Labour actually may have had higher levels of reach than the Tories on Facebook at the last election. But the Tories paid money to work out who they need to target, and with clear messages tailored for specific audiences, repeated ad infinitum. Labour had lots of different messages, didn’t target them at the right people, had a more diffuse audience, and many of the people targeted would only have seen a Labour post once. You end up with huge engagement amongst people who are already engaged — and you end up repeating messages that get the most engagement, because those are the ones that get your most dedicated supporters most enthused. You energise your core supporters (and end up sticking to the messages that energise them most), but fail to reach out — you actually do the opposite.
I sometimes do Facebook videos that get millions of views. Wow! I think. Unfortunately it takes three seconds to qualify as a view. People are mostly just scrolling past. The same with Facebook posts: you’re told they’ve reached however many people, but the number who are genuinely engaging is much smaller. I’ll get a million user reach on Facebook on a given day: but that’s mostly people just scrolling past on their feed. They’re not meaningfully engaged. Those who are engaged are overwhelmingly those who are already supportive.
The point about the Tories’ social media strategy is it was not a substitute, but just a complement to a wide-ranging overall package. They weren’t relying on social media at the expense of the mainstream media — where their message dominated; they had a clear overall message they repeated over and over and over again.
There are, as I say, 65 million people in Britain. Most people do not spend their times discussing politics (or seeking out political content) on social media. That’s just an obvious fact. Millions of people do get their information about what’s going on in politics, say, from watching a bit of the 10 O’Clock News, or listening to news on radio. Radio 2, for example, has 15 million listeners, four million more than voted Conservative at the last general election. A study in 2013 found that 78% of adults used television for news; just 10% opted for Twitter. Things have not changed dramatically since then (indeed Twitter has been stagnating). The study found that people had poor trust in Twitter as a news source. Most people hear a bit of news about politics on the TV or radio.
Yes, social media has a role — but as a complement. An effective media strategy means appearing on TV and radio at every possible opportunity, and lobbying for appearances when they are not offered; reacting swiftly to momentous events like a change in Prime Minister; having message discipline underpinning a coherent vision; planning ahead, so that you are always one step ahead; sending press releases in good time so they can be reported on, and so on. Such a strategy does not seem to be in place.
So what could a coherent media strategy look like? How would it genuinely reach millions of people who aren’t trawling through Facebook for political content with an appealing coherent vision?
5. What’s the strategy to win over the over-44s?
Britain has an ageing population. Not only are older Britons the most likely to turn out to vote, but they are increasingly likely to vote Conservative. At the last general election, the Tories only had a lead among people aged over 44. Labour had a huge lead among 18 to 24 year olds, but only 43% voted; but nearly eight out of ten over the age of 65 voted, and decisively for the Tories. Labour’s poll rating among older Britain is currently catastrophic, particularly the leadership’s own ratings. Unless Labour can win a higher proportion of older voters, the party will never govern again.
When I asked Jeremy Corbyn in my recent interview what his strategy was, he came up with some sensible starting points: respect for older people (this needs fleshing out in policy terms), dealing with pensioner poverty, and social care. The problem is — that’s the first I’ve heard of it. Where’s the strategy to relentlessly appeal to older Britons who are so critical in deciding elections? There’s no point having a vision unless it is repeated ad infinitum, rather than being offered after being prompted: it will go over everyone’s head.
6. What’s the strategy to win over Scotland?
This was identified as a key priority during Corbyn’s last leadership campaign. It is difficult, currently, to see how Labour can win a general election without winning a considerable number of seats North of the Border. At the last Holyrood elections, Scottish Labour came a disastrous third. That’s not to blame Corbyn: here was the manifestation of problems that long predate his leadership. But polling in Scotland really is beyond awful. Just 19% of people who voted Labour in 2015 think Corbyn is doing well: and while Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson has a +58 net rating among Scottish Labour voters, Jeremy Corbyn languishes on -47% among Scottish Labour voters. It no longer seems as though Scotland is any kind of priority. Where is the strategy to win back Scotland?
7. What’s the strategy to win over Conservative voters?
The evidence strongly suggests that — to have a chance of forming a government — Labour needs to make some inroads into the Conservative vote. When I asked Corbyn about how he’d win over Tory voters, he spoke of dealing with the housing crisis, decreasing student debt, promoting new industries like solar panels, and asking them if they were comfortable with rising inequalities not least the declining share of income going to wages compared to dividends and executive pay. This does not seem like a convincing strategy for persuading Conservative voters who didn’t want to plump for Labour under Ed Miliband. It does not seem like much thought has been put into this. So what strategy could be developed to win over Conservatives?
8. How would we deal with people’s concerns about immigration?
Britain just voted to leave the European Union in what, above all else, was a vote on immigration. Some of the communities who most strongly voted Leave were working-class Labour constituencies in the North. The ward I grew up in voted to leave: it was obvious to me what was going to happen before the result. Labour has to at least engage with where people are at. In my proposed strategy blog last year, I suggested Labour offer an ‘immigration dividend’: ringfencing the extra money EU immigrants put into the economy and using it to invest in communities with higher levels of immigration. To his credit, Corbyn has occasionally spoken about reinstating the Migrant Impacts Fund, abolished by Cameron’s government — but only intermittently, to the extent where I doubt the vast majority of the electorate are even aware of this position. So how could the leadership devise a strategy to respond on immigration?
9. How can Labour’s mass membership be mobilised?
I wrote about this in my recent Guardian column. Having a mass membership is a real achievement, and one that should be lauded. But unless it can be mobilised in the wider community to reach those who are not already convinced, then its role in winning over the wider public will be limited. There are other dangers, too. Because the leadership is so vilified and attacked by the media, it is easy to become defensive. But that defensiveness can turn into intolerance towards any criticism. Look: I’ve spent my entire adult life in socialist politics, and trying to popularise it as best as possible, and I campaigned for Jeremy Corbyn, and I’m now being attacked as a Blairite, crypto-Tory and Establishment stooge. The gap in values, outlooks and priorities between members and the wider public becomes ever harder to bridge. A movement becomes united by a total loyalty to the leadership, rather than over policies and beliefs. But a movement will only win over people by being inclusive, optimistic, cheerful even, love-bombing the rest of the population. A belief that even differences of opinion on the left can’t be tolerated — well, that cannot bode well. So how can the enthusiasm of the mass membership be mobilised, to reach the tens of millions of people who don’t turn up to political rallies? What kind of optimistic, inclusive message can it have to win over the majority?
Conclusion
Labour faces an existential crisis. There will be those who prefer me to just to say: all the problems that exist are the fault of the mainstream media and the Parliamentary Labour Party, and to be whipped up with the passions generated by mass rallies across the country. But these are the facts as I see them, and the questions that have to be answered. There are some who seem to believe seeking power is somehow ‘Blairite’. It is Blairite to seek power to introduce Blairite policies. It is socialist to seek power to introduce socialist policies. As things stand, all the evidence suggests that Labour — and the left as a whole — is on the cusp of a total disaster. Many of you won’t thank me now. But what will you say when you see the exit poll at the next general election and Labour is set to be wiped out as a political force? What will you say when — whenever you mention anything vaguely left-wing, you’re mocked for the rest of your life, a throwback to the discredited Labour era of the 2010s? Will you just comfort yourself by blaming it on the mainstream media and the PLP? Will that get you through a lifetime of Tory rule? My questions may strike you as unhelpful or uncomfortable. I’m beyond caring. Call me a Blairite, Tory, Establishment stooge, careerist, sellout, whatever makes you feel better. The situation is extremely grave and unless satisfactory answers are offered, we are nothing but the accomplices of the very people we oppose.
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I would agree. Particularly more council and social housing projects. It is also time to look again at high rise buildings especially in areas where space is at a premium.
There should be some consideration towards redevelopment of brown field sites and the renovation of existing near derelict housing stock.
The problem with house building is that infrastructure needs to be developed in order to cope. The last 40 or so years has seen infrastructure falling way behind even the mediocre pace of home building.
Last year there a homeless charity on BBC news, and they said some things about derelict houses and poor management of existing houses, and if this was sorted properly, it would go a long way to help people.
Up here in Scotland, right to buy has been scrapped by the Scottish Parliament, and more social housing is planned.
Perhaps the rest of the UK might follow suit?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Ketara, I think that article misses one crucial point: tax avoidance.
These days, it doesn't seem to matter what the tax rates are - the wealthy are actively taking steps to hide their cash. Recent scandals such as Panam, prove this.
HMRC IMO, are not doing enough to counter this.
Corbyn has many faults, and I'm a big critic, but attacking his taxation plans, whilst failing to acknowledge the scale of tax avoidance, is a poor argument.
Tax avoidance is contributing to a revenue shortfall.
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
Tax avoidance by the rich and by big companies. The Treasury has started to make some moves against companies like Amazon and Google, who make billions in the UK while paying almost no tax. It needs to go further. They need to cough up a fair share of the money they make, not shelter it by exploitation of technical accounting rules.
The second article, by the left-wing journalist, was very interesting. The impression I got was that without saying it out loud, he thinks Corbyn's heart is in the right place but not his head. He wants Corbyn to get a grip.
Kilkrazy wrote: Tax avoidance by the rich and by big companies. The Treasury has started to make some moves against companies like Amazon and Google, who make billions in the UK while paying almost no tax. It needs to go further. They need to cough up a fair share of the money they make, not shelter it by exploitation of technical accounting rules.
The second article, by the left-wing journalist, was very interesting. The impression I got was that without saying it out loud, he thinks Corbyn's heart is in the right place but not his head. He wants Corbyn to get a grip.
Not having a go at you, Kilkrazy, but I'll sleep soundly tonight knowing that the treasury are going after tax avoiders!
I remember John Major promising to sort this...
Recent efforts have proven to be ineffective, and Osborne didn't exactly rock the boat. The problem for the Treasury and the HMRC is that the super rich can pay accountant and lawyers to run rings around her majesty's government.
Example: compare how much benefit fraud costs this country, and how many people are employed to catch those people, and then compare it to how many people are tacking the mick with tax avoidance and how many people are paid to catch them.
The gulf is huge, which leads me to conclude that HMRC are bullies going after the little guy...
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deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
I would agree. Particularly more council and social housing projects. It is also time to look again at high rise buildings especially in areas where space is at a premium.
There should be some consideration towards redevelopment of brown field sites and the renovation of existing near derelict housing stock.
The problem with house building is that infrastructure needs to be developed in order to cope. The last 40 or so years has seen infrastructure falling way behind even the mediocre pace of home building.
Last year there a homeless charity on BBC news, and they said some things about derelict houses and poor management of existing houses, and if this was sorted properly, it would go a long way to help people.
Up here in Scotland, right to buy has been scrapped by the Scottish Parliament, and more social housing is planned.
Perhaps the rest of the UK might follow suit?
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The public also have to get real and see past political lines.
New housing inevitably means breaking ground on sites not previously used for building. It also means infrastructure doing the same. It also means taking a long hard look at what we already have in place and to realise that some of it isn't fit for purpose and needs to be remade or rebuilt.
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We've got to be careful with that, though. I live in a very attractive mainly Georgian-Victorian market town whose central street layout is mediaeval. Traffic is a constant nightmare and parking is also dire.
You couldn't reconfigure the town for modern expansion and traffic without blitzing it to the ground and rebuilding it entirely. Obviously this isn't going to happen. There are over 600 listed buildings and architectural features, and the aggregate value of people's properties is many millions of pounds.
Yet, government has forced an expansion of housing that will add about 12% to the population in the next 15 years.
It could be planned to build out into the countryside, but this is one of the most rural counties in Britain and prime agricultural land.
We've got to be careful with that, though. I live in a very attractive mainly Georgian-Victorian market town whose central street layout is mediaeval. Traffic is a constant nightmare and parking is also dire.
You couldn't reconfigure the town for modern expansion and traffic without blitzing it to the ground and rebuilding it entirely. Obviously this isn't going to happen. There are over 600 listed buildings and architectural features, and the aggregate value of people's properties is many millions of pounds.
Yet, government has forced an expansion of housing that will add about 12% to the population in the next 15 years.
It could be planned to build out into the countryside, but this is one of the most rural counties in Britain and prime agricultural land.
There needs to be some real talk about redevelopment and building for the future.
Do we want an efficient, safe and cost effective transport network for the 21st century? Some eggs need to be broken and billions spent.
Otherwise we'll keep the tried and tested sticking plaster method of infrastructure and route planning.
New housing inevitably means breaking ground on sites not previously used for building. It also means infrastructure doing the same. It also means taking a long hard look at what we already have in place and to realise that some of it isn't fit for purpose and needs to be remade or rebuilt.
As a lot of current housing in built on flood planes the future is not looking good for home ownership.
As increased house building would mean that house prices would decrease I can't see the right wing press being on board and the cost would be high. I can't see anything positive happening on this issue until the whole system breaks, as usual.
New housing inevitably means breaking ground on sites not previously used for building. It also means infrastructure doing the same. It also means taking a long hard look at what we already have in place and to realise that some of it isn't fit for purpose and needs to be remade or rebuilt.
As a lot of current housing in built on flood planes the future is not looking good for home ownership.
As increased house building would mean that house prices would decrease I can't see the right wing press being on board and the cost would be high. I can't see anything positive happening on this issue until the whole system breaks, as usual.
As a home owner I would like to ensure that my property can pay for my retirement and inevitable decline, my house makes up what my pension cannot.
We need to reconsider the green belt. It is treated as sacrosanct, but is now out of date. It is strangling cities and leading to gridlock. They also need to restrict building work much more on existing houses. A whole layer of small homes is being striped out. Both these planning laws are massively in favour of those who already own a home, and designed to keep house prices going up and up. We need to build more houses where people want them and stop people turning 2 and 3 bed houses in to 4 and 5 beds. But this won't happen as long as the red tops hold so much sway. We need house prices to go down, but too many people are reliant on their homes to provide income or just prop up unaffordable mortgages. it will never happen.
For the record, I am a home owner, and I accept the need to lose value on my house to sort out the problems. But then I got a house to live in, not as an investment.
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Another possible solution is to create prosperity in cities like Liverpool which have been massively depopulated in the past 30 or so years. There's plenty of empty housing in lots of places. The problem is that everyone wants to live in the SE because that is where the jobs are.
As a home owner I would like to ensure that my property can pay for my retirement and inevitable decline, my house makes up what my pension cannot.
Yes but the housing market has already priced out a significant segment of the population and its only going to get worse. There needs to be a fundamental rebalancing.
I hear that the EU is demanding that we continue to pay for the pensions of the British commissioners/meps etc after Brexit. I hope May draws a line in the sand on that. Simple reason is, especially for the Commissioners, when they joined the EU they had to take an oath of allegiance to the EU that places it above their home nation. So, they're apparently European rather than British, except when it comes to footing the bill for them. It's another example of the bare faced cheek of the EU.
That and their pensions are overly generous anyway. It's one reason why we left.