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I hope the Kill Team kit comes with some bits for BA/DA/SW to make them stand out a little. Some blood drops and Angels and Wolf tails would be nice. I really doubt they will include a lot of different shoulder pauldrons, probably just a big sheet of decals with a varied number of chapter emblems on it. I am looking forward to it. Probably will buy at least two.
With my track record, none of my models will be usable :(
I have more than 1,500 points of Deathwatch. I am overjoyed. They are my lucky army. Played more then 30 games with them, and they are undefeated. I just get really lucky with them. So far, I only bring them out "upon request". None of my friends like them, and are constantly trying to figure out how to beat them. Crazy, as they are nothing but Vanguard and Sternguard Veterans with 15 different Terminators and a few HQ choices. I just get VERY lucky with them. Never fail a 5+ invulnerable save. Never fail a morale test. I cannot claim this with any other army. It's crazy.
I can still remember when a box of 30 Space Marines was $30.00. Now THAT'S old school! In fact, I started playing in the Rogue Trader days...yes, I am that old. Played Warhammer Fantasy for years before Rogue Trader even came out...
6,800 Pts. Ultramarines, 1,500 Pts. Deathwatch, 1,000 Pts. Black Templars, 1,000 Pts. Blood Ravens, 1,000 Pts. Emperors Children, 2,000 Pts. Word Bearers, 3,500 Pts. Eldar (Alaitoc or Biel-tan), 2,000 Pts. Tau, 2,000 Pts. Sisters of Battle, 999 Pts. of Thousand Sons, 1,000 Points Dark Eldar, 1,000 Points Adeptus Arbites, 1,000 Points Freebooters, 1,000 Points "Last Chancers", 1,000 Points Tyranids, 1,000 Points Necrons
2,500 Pts. Brotherhood, 2,000 Pts. Undead, 2,000 Pts. Sylvan Kin Elves, 2,000 Pts. Empire of Dust, 3,000 Pts. Orcs with Goblin Allies
5 Necromunda Gangs, 10 Mordheim Warbands, and 5 Frostgrave warbands
With my track record, none of my models will be usable :(
I have more than 1,500 points of Deathwatch. I am overjoyed. They are my lucky army. Played more then 30 games with them, and they are undefeated. I just get really lucky with them. So far, I only bring them out "upon request". None of my friends like them, and are constantly trying to figure out how to beat them. Crazy, as they are nothing but Vanguard and Sternguard Veterans with 15 different Terminators and a few HQ choices. I just get VERY lucky with them. Never fail a 5+ invulnerable save. Never fail a morale test. I cannot claim this with any other army. It's crazy.
Suffer not the Xenos to live, brother!
warboss wrote: Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
I'm really pumped for the upcoming Deathwatch stuff, but it may be a little while before I can build up enough cash to get any of it beyond the board game marines (which I already have).
My armies (re-counted and updated on 11/7/24, including modeled wargear options):
Dark Angels: ~16000 Astra Militarum: ~1200 | Imperial Knights: ~2300 | Leagues of Votann: ~1300 | Tyranids: ~3400 | Stormcast Eternals: ~5000 | Kruleboyz: ~3500 | Lumineth Realm-Lords: ~700
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casvalremdeikun wrote: I hope the Kill Team kit comes with some bits for BA/DA/SW to make them stand out a little. Some blood drops and Angels and Wolf tails would be nice. I really doubt they will include a lot of different shoulder pauldrons, probably just a big sheet of decals with a varied number of chapter emblems on it. I am looking forward to it. Probably will buy at least two.
I hope they don't, personally. I don't want to see a bunch of BA/SW/DA/UM stuff in the Deathwatch kit, since those 4 already have separate upgrade sprues. Give more space to the chapters without easy access to plastic bits already, and some successors as well.
See... 40k did get an update. Now when is the next AoS release? There's too much 40k talk lately.
No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
warboss wrote: Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
Fezza213 wrote: I think they learnt a large number of lessons with WHFB and story advancement in 40k will shake things up but I don't think they will go as far as WHFB which is good because while 40k needs a shake up it is not as dire as WHFB was. Plus, telling the same story over and over again is boring, characters never dying is boring (Game of Thrones showed us that) so move the story, kill the emperor and bring in new heroes (or old heroes returned) as well as new (or old) big bad guys. They need to maintain a good mix of nostalgia vs new blood, while its good to return all those old heroes/villians (aka primarches) from 30k they need to add new stuff that is unique to 40k.
That assumes 40k is meant to be story rather than setting from which to create your own stories...
Story driven from company isn't automatically godsend. Setting meanwhile gives players freedom to push the story where they want. Something which doesn't work with company driven story.
Fezza213 wrote: I think they learnt a large number of lessons with WHFB and story advancement in 40k will shake things up but I don't think they will go as far as WHFB which is good because while 40k needs a shake up it is not as dire as WHFB was. Plus, telling the same story over and over again is boring, characters never dying is boring (Game of Thrones showed us that) so move the story, kill the emperor and bring in new heroes (or old heroes returned) as well as new (or old) big bad guys. They need to maintain a good mix of nostalgia vs new blood, while its good to return all those old heroes/villians (aka primarches) from 30k they need to add new stuff that is unique to 40k.
That assumes 40k is meant to be story rather than setting from which to create your own stories...
Story driven from company isn't automatically godsend. Setting meanwhile gives players freedom to push the story where they want. Something which doesn't work with company driven story.
Yeah exactly, 40k was never a "story". It's a backdrop where players or GW craft their own stories within the current setting.
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Fezza213 wrote: I think they learnt a large number of lessons with WHFB and story advancement in 40k will shake things up but I don't think they will go as far as WHFB which is good because while 40k needs a shake up it is not as dire as WHFB was. Plus, telling the same story over and over again is boring, characters never dying is boring (Game of Thrones showed us that) so move the story, kill the emperor and bring in new heroes (or old heroes returned) as well as new (or old) big bad guys. They need to maintain a good mix of nostalgia vs new blood, while its good to return all those old heroes/villians (aka primarches) from 30k they need to add new stuff that is unique to 40k.
That assumes 40k is meant to be story rather than setting from which to create your own stories...
Story driven from company isn't automatically godsend. Setting meanwhile gives players freedom to push the story where they want. Something which doesn't work with company driven story.
Yeah exactly, 40k was never a "story". It's a backdrop where players or GW craft their own stories within the current setting.
And that's what this is surely, GW advancing a story within the setting.
With my track record, none of my models will be usable :(
I have a Deathwatch army. I'm concerned with how they will butcher the existing DW fluff.
Actually, I'm at the point where I'm running out of armies that I have that don't have rules. Once they do Genestealer Cult and Lost & The Damned, GW will have caught up with me!
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With my track record, none of my models will be usable :(
I have a Deathwatch army. I'm concerned with how they will butcher the existing DW fluff.
Actually, I'm at the point where I'm running out of armies that I have that don't have rules. Once they do Genestealer Cult and Lost & The Damned, GW will have caught up with me!
I do have a Deathwatch army, but am more optimistic. If they "butcher the existing fluff" well that is what Head-Canon is for.
The story going on in my head doesn't have to match up to the official fluff 100%.
Hell, half the time it doesn't match up with what is happening on the board, otherwise my BAMF Chapter Master equivalent has some kind of illicit cloning facility for the amount of times he has died horribly on the board.
My hope is for some sweet gubbins, a nice Artemis model, a rack of Shoulder Pads in every box and a fancy flyer thingy to run.
Vain wrote: ... a rack of Shoulder Pads in every box and a fancy flyer thingy to run.
I'd deem this a tremendous missed opportunity if such a thing did not exist. Maybe not a sprue of shoulder pads, but just GW using their excellent plastics technology to fill every single square millimetre of spare space with new pads for all sorts of Chapters (maybe put a sneaky Rainbow Warrior pad in there for nostalgia's sake).
Just don't be a 5-man Squad Box that somehow costs more than a 10-man Tactical Squad box.
With my track record, none of my models will be usable :(
I have a Deathwatch army. I'm concerned with how they will butcher the existing DW fluff.
Actually, I'm at the point where I'm running out of armies that I have that don't have rules. Once they do Genestealer Cult and Lost & The Damned, GW will have caught up with me!
Start some squats, you're safe till the end of days.
JohnnyHell wrote: So many posts about business models, fluff and AoS that being off topic in this thread seems on topic... oh for some actual news when I click in...
You do realize that GW posted a preview video for Codex: Adeptus Astartes Deathwatch, right?
Initially, no actually, due to the aforementioned walls of off-topic ranting. And when I did find the link amidst the noise it didn't change that the thread is mostly OTTOT ranting at the mo. I've hit the report button a few times, but people *really* need to self-police too. If mod warnings and multiple posters asking others to stop the OT chatter don't get through and they continue, it makes Dakka a sucky place to be and that makes me sad.
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Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
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I'd deem this a tremendous missed opportunity if such a thing did not exist. Maybe not a sprue of shoulder pads, but just GW using their excellent plastics technology to fill every single square millimetre of spare space with new pads for all sorts of Chapters (maybe put a sneaky Rainbow Warrior pad in there for nostalgia's sake).
Just don't be a 5-man Squad Box that somehow costs more than a 10-man Tactical Squad box.
Probably didn't explain myself well. I just want more DW shoulder pads than there are marines in the box.
It is relatively easy to source and create Chapter pads (though I wouldnt say no to more of them) but consistent DW pads and awesome gubbins/weapons are my main desire for this box.
I could actually live with 5 blinged out marines Marines / 10+ DW pads / 10+ random Chapter pads / A bajillion cool weapons and gubbins.
The same amount of frames as a Tac Box, but instead of those extra legs, torsos and arms it is filled to brimming with =][= symbols to stick on vehicles and pods, xeno skulls and parts, extra helmets with auspex parts, extra elbow half sun doodads like on the art, bionic arms and bionic feet, well worn helmets and armour pieces with gouging and scoring on them to imply current battle, =][= purity seals, old school marks of helmets...I seem to have gotten myself all hot and bothered about the potential of this box and what it could mean for me.
I apologise.
Glory is fleeting. Obscurity is forever.
2016/08/01 10:26:20
Subject: Re:general 40k release rumours : deathwatch vid page 18
That would fit recent release patterns, but Eldrad + Harlies is odd, no?
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
2016/08/01 10:57:08
Subject: general 40k release rumours : deathwatch vid page 18
Going to wait for the eBay deals on this one methinks. Definitely going to snap up that Deathwatch Captain and the upgrade frame! I hope they do some Deathwatch Overkill rules/scenarios too. That'd be nice!
Chikout wrote: So this turned up on tg. A new 40k boxed set called death Masque. Price is RM590 which is the Malaysian currency. No idea what that converts to.
590 Malaysian Ringgit is US$148
2016/08/01 11:23:44
Subject: Re:general 40k release rumours : deathwatch vid page 18
Chikout wrote: So this turned up on tg. A new 40k boxed set called death Masque. Price is RM590 which is the Malaysian currency. No idea what that converts to.
Chikout wrote: So this turned up on tg. A new 40k boxed set called death Masque. Price is RM590 which is the Malaysian currency. No idea what that converts to.
590 Malaysian Ringgit is US$148
So about £112?
Given how GW like to hike and spike prices depending on their mood...
£100 box? That's kinda steep considering the last few 'Campaign' boxes....
It's closer to BaC scale. Another board game type game?
5250 pts
3850 pts
2500 pts 
~16000 Astra Militarum: 
~1200 | Imperial Knights: 
~2300 | Leagues of Votann: 
~1300 | Tyranids: 
~3400 | Stormcast Eternals: 
~5000 | Kruleboyz: 
~3500 | Lumineth Realm-Lords: 
~700
No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester 
The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k 
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