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Annoyance of Netlings




wheeling wv

I'm thinking of the following list...

Treelord Ancient
Branchwych
10 Dryads
5 Revenants
3 Hunters Bows
3 Hunters Scythes
Household War scroll

Comes out to exactly 1000. Ancient is the general with reroll first hit in each phase command, +1 save relic, regrowth spell. Branchwych has acorn as I'm allowed to have extra relic per each war scroll. Thoughts? I have all the models but have only built/painted the 2 squads of hunters. Nothing else is set in stone. I'm also really liking spirit of durthru. Should I rather be looking at him than an Ancient? Ancients command ability is pretty sweet giving Sylvaneth 10" reroll saves of 1. Durthru does not have a command but is a damage output monster. I'm thinking of giving Branchwych treesong for Wildwood shenanigans as well. Going forward this army could be a Gnarwood Wargrove for heavy magic usage.

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I thinking of getting a sylvaneth army don't know if dryads or revenants

2000 6000 with Reaver Titan guard 2k
2500 (imperial force)
2500 (trimming down in 8th)
TS 30k at 5k points
Yes I have a problem
 
   
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You need more than 12 dryads in a unit to get that bonus to their save and make them more effective, I tend to find 15 was a good minimum for them before points so now I'd just go for squads of 20, they'd then work as an alright anvil to the force. Plus with their range the 20 will generally always be in range to attack, 30 gets unwieldy and guys get to miss out.

My 1000 points is a bit similar, I use an ancient (regrowth, ignore -1 rend and ironbark for that nice 2+ save), 20 dryads, 5 revenants, 3 bow hunters and 3 scythe hunters.

Dryads and revenants have different roles however 5 revenants I feel have more use than 10 dryads, so I think the best way to go with them is to have a larger block of dryads as somewhat of a core to your army then use the revenants to fill that remaining battleline gap and act as hunters for artillery crew. I usually leave them off to the side using the rules to deploy them from a wyldwood because they generally just stand around until I start getting things in combat, they shouldn't go in by themselves unless it's something like a cannon crew, but if you're deploying your free woods long ways in the middle of the board you should pretty much be getting everything in their face by turn 2 at the latest. I like the ancient more than Durthu at this level because you don't have much room so having a leader also be a wizard and a behemoth just feels more effective to me, especially when I want those hunters in as well.

Generally the main way I go with this list is to try to have the ancient and the scythe hunters in combat with the enemy by turn 2. Once there the ancient set up like this can and probably will be able to tank a surprising amount of damage.

   
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Don't you need a Treelord for the Household battalion?

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pm713 wrote:
Don't you need a Treelord for the Household battalion?

Yes, so it doesn't work. "TREELORD" is a specific warscroll, not a keyword.
   
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RoperPG wrote:
pm713 wrote:
Don't you need a Treelord for the Household battalion?

Yes, so it doesn't work. "TREELORD" is a specific warscroll, not a keyword.


I'm fairly sure it refers to the keyword, let me see if I can find the source for that.

Edit: Found it, it's in the FAQ:

"Q: When selecting models for a warscroll battalion, do named characters count towards the requirements? For example, in order to take a Great Moonclan, I need to take a Night Goblin Warboss. Does Skarsnik fulfil this requirement as he has the 'Night Goblin Warboss' keyword?

A: Yes, they can be taken if they have the appropriate keywords on their warscroll. Thus Skarsnik can be used as the Night Goblin Warboss of a Great Moonclan."

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Solaris wrote:
RoperPG wrote:
pm713 wrote:
Don't you need a Treelord for the Household battalion?

Yes, so it doesn't work. "TREELORD" is a specific warscroll, not a keyword.


I'm fairly sure it refers to the keyword, let me see if I can find the source for that.

Edit: Found it, it's in the FAQ:

"Q: When selecting models for a warscroll battalion, do named characters count towards the requirements? For example, in order to take a Great Moonclan, I need to take a Night Goblin Warboss. Does Skarsnik fulfil this requirement as he has the 'Night Goblin Warboss' keyword?

A: Yes, they can be taken if they have the appropriate keywords on their warscroll. Thus Skarsnik can be used as the Night Goblin Warboss of a Great Moonclan."

But how does that allow the Treelord Ancient?

You need a Treelord for the Household. The Treelord ANCIENT is not a Treelord. The FAQ doesn't change this as the Ancient is both not a named character and doesn't have Treelord as a keyword.

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Solaris wrote:
RoperPG wrote:
pm713 wrote:
Don't you need a Treelord for the Household battalion?

Yes, so it doesn't work. "TREELORD" is a specific warscroll, not a keyword.


I'm fairly sure it refers to the keyword, let me see if I can find the source for that.

Edit: Found it, it's in the FAQ:

"Q: When selecting models for a warscroll battalion, do named characters count towards the requirements? For example, in order to take a Great Moonclan, I need to take a Night Goblin Warboss. Does Skarsnik fulfil this requirement as he has the 'Night Goblin Warboss' keyword?

A: Yes, they can be taken if they have the appropriate keywords on their warscroll. Thus Skarsnik can be used as the Night Goblin Warboss of a Great Moonclan."


That is spesific for named characters, in addition, that FAQ does not say that Battalions use keywords. They do actually use unit names, for the most part. When it uses Keywords, then the keywords will be bolded. Look at the Sylvaneth battalion that includes a ORDER WIZARD will look that - bolded and caps
   
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To pm713: Yeah, you´re right. I assumed the ancient had the right keyword, since RoperPG said it referred to the warscroll and not the keyword. My bad - the treelord ancient doesn't have the right keyword, so it cannot be used in the formation.

To Last Edition: I disagree, in the specific example in the FAQ, the Great Moonclan, Night Goblin Warboss is not bolded. However, it is still stated in the FAQ that it refers to the keyword. The question was about named characters, but the answer only says that as long as they have the right keywords, they can be used. I think it can be extrapolated to the general case. However, the treelord ancient doesn't have the right keywords, so it's irrelevant to the discussion anyway.

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You can try and include the Gnarledroot battalion. I believe you must bring an Ancient instead of a normal treelord in a household battalion. Don't have the battletome here, so not 100% sure.
   
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Last Edition wrote:
You can try and include the Gnarledroot battalion. I believe you must bring an Ancient instead of a normal treelord in a household battalion. Don't have the battletome here, so not 100% sure.

Spot on. The confusion here was that somewhat counter-intuitively a Treelord Ancient (or Spirit of Durthu) isn't a Treelord based on keywords.
   
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Thanks for the advice on dryads not_u. And sorry about the confusion on the household using a treelord ancient. In a Gnarlwood Wargrove the treelord is upgraded to an Ancient using the Household Warscroll and that is what I was thinking of. He's not not allowed in a normal household war scroll so I will have to drop it.
   
 
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