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Hi Dakka Forum!

I struggle at this point limit to taylor against a Tau using 1xGhostkeel, 1xHammerhead, Commander fully Upgraded (T5 2+Sv 4++ etc.), probably the small stealth suits aswell, few fire warriors and trying to squeeze as much crisis and broadsides as possible.

I struggle with the 2+ cover saves in ruins here(Ghostkeel/stealthsuits)...

I find it hard to taylor against them without wasting too much points.. He will taylor aswell so no worries about bringing the

restrictions:
-no flyers
-no Gargantuan
-1 CAD
-standard Codex

I dont have(and dont want)
Warpspiders
Banshees

Here is a try, not enough models..


Another one, no ignore cover here except serpent shield. Will have a hard time against 2+ Armor/cover


Halp!

List #2 is better;
Reapers : upgrade to starshot missile to Instant Death XV8s. Add Exarchs too.

Scatbikes: maybe (if you have rangers or DAs for troop choice number two) combine into one big unit, adding warlock for general PSY boosting. Make your opponent waste markers on getting rid of the warlock's Conceal. And the flip side of Conceal is Reveal so Ghosts and Stealth suits lose their shroud. If you get Horrify then psyShriek becomes devastating.

Go with a farseer on a bike, selecting psyShriek, Guide and Prescience.

Normally I would say shelve the Wraithlord , but tau struggle against T8. Bright Lances do ID suits but I would switch to scatlas.

Like you said, wraithscythes and their WaveS are too many points for your smaller game.

Hawks Do you own a 6th hawk?

Helpful?

Darkreapers are always the answer.

2 Farseers 1 on bike - 1 on foot. Roll on divination and try to get perfect timing - if you get it - roll on telepathy for psychic screech.

Take a large unit on windriders with no upgrades a small units of scat bikes and the rest of your points put into a big unit of dark-reapers upgraded with start-shot missiles.

Use the large unit of bikes to get your farseer into range to cast telepathy primarius - Then (in case you didn't know) when you are within 9 inches of a ghostkeel it loses it's special rule that gives it cover in the open. Your shuriken catapults will do fine against it without the cover save.

 Xenomancers wrote:
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Use the large unit of bikes to get your farseer into range to cast telepathy primarius - Then (in case you didn't know) when you are within 9 inches of a ghostkeel it loses it's special rule that gives it cover in the open. Your shuriken catapults will do fine against it without the cover save.

Sorry Xenos, but I think this is a bad idea. Even with jsj, the bikes are going to be in assault range next turn, and the GhostKs, as Monstrous Creatures, are going to wreck guardians on bikes.

And I cannot find that 9 inch rule thing. ... Codex or RB?

Thanks a lot guys! You gave some nice tips, really like the idea of utilizing psy-heavy ignore cover. I havent used the Divination table yet. Im just coming back to 40k from the 4th edition and theres still a lot of cheese to discover yet for me

I think im gonna run a list with 2 Farseers, at least one of them should roll Perfect Timing..

So heres another list, and im quite happy with it:


Dat low model count though..
Each farseer sticks to reaper squad, mowing down Infantry, Crisis or the Stealthed dudes in cover with Twin-linked and Ignore cover hopefully
Scatbikes... well do what they do, play objectives and abuse their 12 S6 shots per turn..
Falcon goes hunting the broadsides and possible upgraded commander.


For the Ghostkeel rules: afaik it has shroud(+2) and stealth(+1) confered by his drones(?) and outside of 12" that bonus is even doubled (yea GW whatever..). so he always has a3+ Cv in the open or often 2+ since we usually play a ruin city with a feth ton of cover.


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 Brothererekose wrote:


Hawks Do you own a 6th hawk?

i have plenty of Hawks, you mean 6 Hawks for the bigger template? I usually use 5+Exarch, still gives the big template right?
I love hawks+sunrifle for the flexibility (very fast Haywire, Blind, horde killing)

Probably i will drop some reapers or the falcon to get them back in the list.. dunno yet.

 Brothererekose wrote:
Helpful?

yes! thanks!