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There has been a lot of movement around the GW base, with Warhammer Fantasy gone replaced with Warhammer Age of Sigmar. As they push out more and more new stuff, could it be possible that 40k will get a plot change or perhaps a galactic schism? Perhaps the Emperor dies or is reborn, perhaps the Tyranids eat everything and it becomes Battlestar Galactica like with Spessss Mahreeeeeens trying to find a new galaxy? R maybe the Chaos Gods will try to dominate the Galaxy? It really is speculation, but with the Warhammer Fantasy replacement, could 40k be near a schism too?

This isn't news or a rumour, it's also under discussion with support from bona fide rumour mongers in another thread.

 Azreal13 wrote:
This isn't news or a rumour, it's also under discussion with support from bona fide rumour mongers in another thread.

Right - so over to 40K General we go!

Oh joy, it's a rare day we see these sorts of threads :O

Unless GW wants to commit suicide, they're probably going to keep the status quo.

The "plot", such as it is, has changed only incrementally over the last almost-30 years. I wouldn't expect to see huge shake-ups. More accurately, WH40k is a setting, not a story.

While the plot rarely moves...GW sure likes to retcon stuff, which is essentially the same thing.

I personally think they need to move the plot - in a big way. Don't even have to change codices etc., but change the status quo of the universe.

As many people have already said, probably not.

I have heard rumors that we might see Magnus the red, and Russ come back and see a table top version of them, but thats just a far off rumor.

40k suffers the same problem that other series do that have multiple "Good" factions, or factions that are subjectively good.

In order for the story to progress, some of the "good" guys need to loose, and then you piss off that client base. See beast men for the best example of it happening in a GW IP

Ahhh. This is a bit of a touchy topic, I see. I feel like the way GW is moving the story is only superficial.

They should just move the story right on to its logical conclusion and finish it up. Everyone dies. The End. From now on all your games are "historical" games.

Maybe that would finally stop all the people asking for "the story" to progress. Because, you know, Warhammer 40,000 is a setting, not a story.

At most they'll move it forwards a tiny bit.

I honestly see nothing wrong with them advancing into 41k, releasing campaign books to replay significant events in the following millenium.
But whilst continuing 40k as the main thing. 41k could be executed the same way as 30k; an expansion.

 Psienesis wrote:
More accurately, WH40k is a setting, not a story.

For the tabletop, sure, but there is a story to it, and the progression's all been squashed up into M41.999. Lots of loose ends up there that are just dieing to spill over into M42.

Needs to move. Hell I would be cool with something nearly as setting changing as Sigmar barring a complete reboot of the setting.

In this thread, I see two possibilities:

1. GW will inch the plot ahead just a tiny bit, i.e.: there's a crack on the Golden Throne, and a piece fell off and killed (somehow) a nameless dude.
2. GW will shake things up, killing off your favorite stuff and jumping to Warhammer: Age of Eldrad.

Lol yeah I think that's possible.

 Buddingsquaw wrote:
I honestly see nothing wrong with them advancing into 41k, releasing campaign books to replay significant events in the following millenium.
But whilst continuing 40k as the main thing. 41k could be executed the same way as 30k; an expansion.

 Psienesis wrote:
More accurately, WH40k is a setting, not a story.

For the tabletop, sure, but there is a story to it, and the progression's all been squashed up into M41.999. Lots of loose ends up there that are just dieing to spill over into M42.

You don't understand how this works. It's a setting. Settings have a history. Settings have oodles of loose ends. The whole point is to give players as many historical examples of the world and as many "what-ifs" as possible to enable them to create and play their own stories.

If you advance the plot to tie off all the loose ends, now you have a story. Those loose ends were hooks to inspire player stories. Now you have removed those hooks.

If instead you advance the plot and create more loose ends, you have a new setting, which may or may not be as successful as your old one at inspiring players. And you'll still have loose ends that need addressing, won't you?

The loose ends are intentional. They will always be there. Because it's a setting, not a story.

 CalgarsPimpHand wrote:


The loose ends are intentional. They will always be there. Because it's a setting, not a story.

That may have been true in the 2000's and before, but GW has been scrambling to remove these as much as possible in the last several years.

Well the problem with moving the story forward even a little is you get important factions being baleeted. Both Ulthwe and Cadia (both popular variations of their given factions) would get eaten up by the Black Crusade and possibly the Farsight Enclave by the orks/tyranids.

And Baal by Nids and whatever else.

Chogoris is about to get eaten by the Red Corsairs too.

And Hive Fleet Leviathan is going to eat Terra.

Now feel free to sharpen your pitchforks and light the torches but... I honestly hope they don't progress the story line, at least not for a very long time. The way I see it, Warhammer Fantasy/40K maybe moving forth in the general media. The way it is now, there's a whole lot of exploration into the hundreds possibly thousands of conflicts happening now. We could also take the time to step away from 30K and 40K and explore defining moments between those chapters in 40K history.

The entirety of Warhammer history and background is setting left for us players to explore and expand on in our own little ways. I, who personally only buys books and codexs for fluff, wouldn't want that taken away. Instead, lets expand until our hearts content.... Don't burn me for heresy.

The very intent of 40k is of a galaxy poised on a knife-edge.

It's that whole "2 minutes to midnight" doomsday clock (see: cold war - some of us lived through that time) but on a galaxy wide setting.