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 d-usa wrote:
That's like arguing that atheists are #ProChristianGod because they don't pick any deity.

That doesn't quite work. The difference with the person who doesn't vote, is that there will still be a very real president regardless. With the atheist, it relies on whether or not there actually is a god regardless of what the atheist believes.

 AndrewC wrote:

Relapse wrote:

The Trump and Clinton names are both linked with the abuse of women.

I genuinely don't know the answer to this, but did Bill actually abuse women? He had affairs yes, but actual abuse?

It could also be about how Hillary went after some of the women who accused Bill.

 AndrewC wrote:

Relapse wrote:

The Trump and Clinton names are both linked with the abuse of women.

I genuinely don't know the answer to this, but did Bill actually abuse women? He had affairs yes, but actual abuse?

Clinton did settle a sexual harrasment with Paula Jones.

Juanita Broddrick remained remarkably consistently

Kathleen Wiley.

Sandra James.

Eileen Wellstone

Cristy Zercher.

Carolyn Moffet

And more...

There are literally tons of books and investigations over this.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
It could also be about how Hillary went after some of the women who accused Bill.

It still doesn't really make them equivalent, though.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Indeed, plus Hillary isn't Bill, and neither Bill nor Hillary are on tape being vile misogynists joking about sexual assault, and the Trump name is linked with farting in your trousers and also various card games.

The issue is that when these women made public these accusations, Hillary & Clintonites did everything they could to destroy these women...

...and thus sheltered an actual serial sexual assaulter.

That's one thing I never understood. Hilary never went out and picked a fight with those women, she was defending her family, at least in her perception.

Trump seems to think that he can simply go out and abuse anyone because he's a TV star.

Well the debate is just an hour away, time to get the popcorn ready.

Cheers

Andrew

Thank you for those links Whembly

well did anyone catch trumps press conference before the debate? Trump found 4 of the women who accused bill of rape & assault, had them endorse him for president, and will bring them to the debate.

#victimsofrapesupportarapist

sirlynchmob wrote:
well did anyone catch trumps press conference before the debate? Trump found 4 of the women who accused bill of rape & assault, had them endorse him for president, and will bring them to the debate.

#victimsofrapesupportarapist

O.o

Really? That's ballsy... I'll see if it's online.

Why? it's not as if they can get involved with the debate? Sitting them in the audience wont achieve anything.

 AndrewC wrote:
Why? it's not as if they can get involved with the debate? Sitting them in the audience wont achieve anything.

sometimes they let the audience ask questions, not sure if this will be one of them.

I got the impression from the last one that the ground rules were to be the same for all the debates. All questions from the moderator and no audience involvement/comment/applause.

Got that wrong, audience will get to ask some questions. Could be interesting.

 AndrewC wrote:
I got the impression from the last one that the ground rules were to be the same for all the debates. All questions from the moderator and no audience involvement/comment/applause.

No. This one is a psuedo townhall.

Half of the questions will be from moderator and others will be in the audience.

Joshua GreenVerified account
‏@JoshuaGreen
Trump adviser to me yesterday: "She’s gonna have to confront her accusers." CNN: Broaddrick, Shelton, Willey, Jones will be in debate hall.

That's ballsy as feth.

I guarantee you none of those women will get a chance to ask questions.

What a sordid spectacle this has become.

Whembly you got in before my update. Thank you for the correction.

Are you staying online while the debate airs?

sirlynchmob wrote:
well did anyone catch trumps press conference before the debate? Trump found 4 of the women who accused bill of rape & assault, had them endorse him for president, and will bring them to the debate.

#victimsofrapesupportarapist

#RapistUsesRapeVictimsForPoliticalEnds

I can't help but imagine that Trump's method of acquiring their support was akin to this:

https://youtu.be/tbfNOjTdcLk?t=25m33s

 whembly wrote:

Joshua GreenVerified account
‏@JoshuaGreen
Trump adviser to me yesterday: "She’s gonna have to confront her accusers." CNN: Broaddrick, Shelton, Willey, Jones will be in debate hall.

That's ballsy as feth.

I guarantee you none of those women will get a chance to ask questions.

"Her accusers". What? These women are accusing Hillary about what? Weren't their accusations against Bill? The Trump Team knows the debate is with Hillary, right? What can these women do? Saying "It's Hillary's fault if Bill Clinton did that to us!" ?

Are you sure you want to call that "ballsy"?

Yeah Hillary didn't sleep with them, that was Bill and he's not allowed to run for president anymore.

I don't get this line of attack by having Bill's accusers go after Hillary, she had nothing to do with his choices

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Yeah Hillary didn't sleep with them, that was Bill and he's not allowed to run for president anymore.

I don't get this line of attack by having Bill's accusers go after Hillary, she had nothing to do with his choices

well according to the protrumpers, she attacked the women and threatened them into silence. and that's why these women's stories had never been heard until today.

This is just trumps latest diversionary tactic to get people to stop talking about how he assaults women and change the topic.

sirlynchmob wrote:

well according to the protrumpers, she attacked the women and threatened them into silence. and that's why these women's stories had never been heard until today.

This is just trumps latest diversionary tactic to get people to stop talking about how he assaults women and change the topic.

Which is why Trump will just ridiculize himself if he really intend to play this card. Seriously, Hillary has nothing to fear from these women. She may even try to let them speak, just to watchTrump sink even more in his own stupidity.

That's not ballsy. That's just dumb.

 AndrewC wrote:
Whembly you got in before my update. Thank you for the correction.

Are you staying online while the debate airs?

Not really going to watch it live... I'm leaving a bit for errands.

I'm sure it's going to be a cluster and Trumps is burning this whole thing down.


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 Sarouan wrote:

 whembly wrote:

Joshua GreenVerified account
‏@JoshuaGreen
Trump adviser to me yesterday: "She’s gonna have to confront her accusers." CNN: Broaddrick, Shelton, Willey, Jones will be in debate hall.

That's ballsy as feth.

I guarantee you none of those women will get a chance to ask questions.

"Her accusers". What? These women are accusing Hillary about what? Weren't their accusations against Bill? The Trump Team knows the debate is with Hillary, right? What can these women do? Saying "It's Hillary's fault if Bill Clinton did that to us!" ?

Are you sure you want to call that "ballsy"?

They're not saying it's Hillary's fault for what Bill Clinton had done to them... it's the treatment by her hand when they came out.

And... yes, it's ballsy as it's a desparate act. This'll backfire enormously.

I might come in late to work tonight so I can watch the debate.

"Ouze, why were you late?"
"Bill Clinton had affairs, boss."


You guys remember that time that no man ever was blamed for his spouses infidelities?

ooooooo, they didn't shake hands when they came in, it's going to get ugly in here

 AndrewC wrote:

Relapse wrote:

The Trump and Clinton names are both linked with the abuse of women.

I genuinely don't know the answer to this, but did Bill actually abuse women? He had affairs yes, but actual abuse?

Several women have come forward accusing him of rape and Hillary was quick to try to cover the accusations over.

Trump is imploding.

He is losing it already

He sounds so defeated

Could he be a bigger mouth breather? It must be the cocaine usage

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
He is losing it already

He sounds so defeated

he's trying not to be a hot head, but he must be on drugs again, here comes mr sniffles

His first four minutes has been everything in his stump speech and nothing to do with the questions asked.
And the sniffing again!

This is just emberassing. Eesh. It's so bad.

Damn Hilary is burning Trump hard.


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He got coked up again.

If you look reeeeaaalllly closely, you can see Clinton salivating, in the same manner of someone confronted with a large turkey dinner.