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I also remember when the same people cheering for him were calling for his excecution after releasing the video of the US military shooting the reporter and the release of the Iraq WarDiaries.
With a response to Trump's horrible tweet on the attack: "Hey jackass, Dems just raised $13K to repair that office. Took us 4 hours. That's more money than you've donated to charity - ever."
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I'm glad they raised the money to rebuild the office. Regardless of how we vote, we're all Americans and politically inspired terrorism should have no place here.
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The Airman wrote: Julian Assange apparently went dark a few hours ago. I hope he's okay!
Him, his staff and his suppliers are all doing excellent work to expose federal, corporate and media corruption and collusion. Thankfully it looks like many folks are either aware of what's going on and/or have opened their eyes. Not sure how well I trust Google's trend results as their search filters have been biasly tampered with, so what's to stop the trends from being tampered with too?
This is why Assange went dark. Getting a little sumpin', sumpin' and a sammich takes priority over releasing sensitive government data files.
So exalted. That's really putting the finger on reality behind "voting for third party because I don't want to vote for one of the lesser evils ". They are not serious candidates, or at least their programs are so full of holes that you can easily let them crumble if you look a bit seriously at them.
Seriously, people really vote for Gary Johnson? Someone who would magically remove taxes and replace by a no less magical universal tax to solve it all? Or that would say that no matter what, the Sun gonna eats us in the end so no need to fight Global Warming?
Well, of course, Right Wing "facts blind" people would certainly do.
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Ouze wrote: I'm glad they raised the money to rebuild the office. Regardless of how we vote, we're all Americans and politically inspired terrorism should have no place here.
"and politically inspired terrorism should have no place here..."
Cough...American...cough...Revolution...
I jest. I know what you mean.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
So exalted. That's really putting the finger on reality behind "voting for third party because I don't want to vote for one of the lesser evils ". They are not serious candidates, or at least their programs are so full of holes that you can easily let them crumble if you look a bit seriously at them.
Seriously, people really vote for Gary Johnson? Someone who would magically remove taxes and replace by a no less magical universal tax to solve it all? Or that would say that no matter what, the Sun gonna eats us in the end so no need to fight Global Warming?
Well, of course, Right Wing "facts blind" people would certainly do.
I don't know man... Joe Exotic is probably the best candidate we've seen in 50 years or so
With the election only weeks away, Hillary Clinton appears to have the lead and the momentum. As of this writing, the FiveThirtyEight polls-only forecast gives her around an 87 percent chance of winning — up from around 55 percent in late September – and that may not have fully absorbed the fallout of Trump’s lewd video, debatable debate performance or the daily deluge of fresh scandal jeopardizing his candidacy.
But if Clinton doesn’t run away with this, there is another candidate who may also have seen his chances of becoming president skyrocket. The third-most likely person to be the next president of the United States: Evan McMullin.
It would take a fascinating scenario — in which much of the technical detail of how we select presidents comes into play — for McMullin to be sworn in as the 45th president, but the chances of its happening are slim, not none. Indeed, his chances of at least making things very interesting may be as high as 1 to 3 percent — about the same as the odds of the Cubs’ coming back to beat the Giants on Monday.
If you’ve never heard of this person, you’re not alone.1 With #NeverTrumpers2 failing to get Mitt Romney, Sen. Ben Sasse of Nebraska or any other high-profile Republicans to enter the race, the task to mount a conservative challenge fell to McMullin, a little-known, 40-year-old former CIA officer.
According to the bio on his website, he served in the CIA for about a decade, and spent time in investment banking, as an adviser for the House Committee on Foreign Affairs and as policy director for the House Republican Conference. On the issues, McMullin has taken fairly orthodox Republican positions, including supporting free trade. He has been critical of Trump on immigration, refugees, anti-Muslim rhetoric and on temperament and fitness to be president.
The idea that an independent candidate could swoop in to win has been largely dismissed, on the grounds that any conservative-leaning third-party candidate would be more likely to hurt Trump than Clinton, thus making a Clinton victory more likely. But McMullin may have one advantage that other second-tier candidates do not: Utah.
His path to the presidency basically looks like this:
Win Utah
Deadlock the Electoral College
Win in the House
The article breaks down the chances of this strategy working. Fascinating.
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skyth wrote: I just had an amusing thought...The party that has the mantra that we should privatize everything because anything the government produces is worse and incompetent claims to be upset with someone privatizing their IT security because the government version is more secure...
I am assuming (Dangerous as that is) that you are referring to the Clinton E-mail scandal. If that isn't the case then ignore the next part because it doesn't directly pertain.
Nobody is upset that Clinton used a private IT security company because it wasn't a government one and as we all know government is better.....(Sarcasm)
We are upset because we know that Hillary's server was less secure then GMAIL and the last time I checked Anonymous and other hackers have yet to gain access to SIPPER and HIGHSIDE servers. In fact the only leaks from SIPPER and HIGHSIDE are from government insiders who copy documents off the server and give them to the public (Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden)
On classified networks it is against the regulations to take documents and information directly off the network, either by printing or saving to a CD/Thumb Drive, And it is physically impossible to e-mail it off the server because they aren't connected to other networks (You can't e-mail someone from a SIPPER network onto a regular internet network). That means that in order for Then Secretary of State Clinton to have those documents on her server at home, someone in the IT section had to have violated protocol, regulations and laws in order to move ALL of those documents off a secure network and put them on a regular network. It is not implausible that Mrs Clinton ordered Aids to literally hand jam all of those documents to her because she is wealthy and well connected, but its more likely they used thumb drives. For those who don't know, when you download documents onto a thumb drive or a CD it sends out warning notices across the board to the system administrators and the IT guys (On classified networks) that means that they were complicit in this breach of security as well.
In other words, nobody is mad that it wasn't a private firm, they are mad that Mrs Clinton broke the law, broke the rules, broke the regulations and so far hasn't even had her clearance stripped. Ironically though, almost everyone else involved was given an immunity agreement from the FBI.
This has possibly been the worst, most blatant violation of our justice system by a political candidate ever.
As much as I enjoy seeing Hillary get pilloried over stuff, the email thing was never going to sink her and she was never going to be indicted or charged, much less convicted over it. First and foremost, no justice department is going to try and stonk a nominee or presumed nominee, that smacks of political interference in elections even if it is not. It certainly wouldnt happen under a DoJ working under a president of the same political party.
More to the point, its not something most people care about or understand. Email policies are like EULA's to most people, and that just doeant rile people up, except largely the only people who care are the people who didnt like Clinton to begin with, which further reinforces the political interference view. That previous secretaries of state apprently engaged in similar behavior and nobody appears to be calling for them to be arrested, charged, shot or jailed, is also telling.
Finally, the Clintons have been through the ringer so many times that this just comes off as more "noise", if whitewater, bengazi, lewinski, etc werent gonna do it, inappropriate email use certainly wasnt. The public became numb to Clinton scandals, her "hate" level has essentially become saturated and misuse of email wasnt going to change the mind of anyone who didnt already have it made up.
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
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Trump and Pence scare me. They want to create law from religion, and they have said as much multiple times. They would replace SCotUS with another Religious Zealot. No thank you! They scare up their base with imaginary persecution and rival religions coming in to take their place. Separation of Church and State PLEASE.
Not to mention plethora of Republican primary candidates who were or are facing legal issues like Perry and Christie.
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
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Him, his staff and his suppliers are all doing excellent work
OH MY GOD !
It's like there's .. I dunno... a plan.. rehearsals...
Otherwise -- if you're not careful -- your political campaign can be totally derailed as you lurch from ill timed/chosen comment to poorly phrased twitter rant.
The fact that "Political campaign being run like a political campaign" is, apparently, news is a bit worrying for ..well..... people.
from the Japan Times today
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It appears Assange's internet may have been cut by a state party. I'm not surprised such a thing happens when you expose Washington DC's nasty underbelly. Jullian better watch his Assange.
When is deadly danger,
When beset by doubt,
Run in little circles,
And wave your hands and shout.
This has possibly been the worst, most blatant violation of our justice system by a political candidate ever.
It can't even be the most blatant violation of our justice system from a candidate this election cycle.
Or did we forget about the twenty-five grand that went to Pam Bondi before she decided not to investigate Trump University?
Or the quarter of a million dollars from Trump's own charity that went to pay off his lost lawsuits and buy tacky crap for him?
What really bothers me and scares me at the same time is that a number of people are so inundated with party politics that they look like this.
For the record I DONT LIKE TRUMP, But I will be voting for him because in my opinion he is the better of possibly the two worst candidates in our nations recent history, at least Obama wasn't a known criminal.
Spinner, this is in no way meant to insult you but I want you to look at this from a neutral perspective. Hillary Clinton Broke Laws, regulations and rules that safe guard our nations security, specifically the integrity of our intelligence Community. She put information that is meant to be classified and kept on secure systems out into the open for the world to see and to use. She then lied about it and made up excuses (Don't really care about this part) and then destroyed all the evidence so at this point the only way we know what got released to the public by her mistake is by hackers coming forward to show us what she released.
You compared that to Trump doing shady business deals and breaking laws regarding the handling of a charitable organization.
Dont get me wrong, Trump is a gak head for doing that but that is like comparing a candle to a bonfire.
Vaktathi wrote: As much as I enjoy seeing Hillary get pilloried over stuff, the email thing was never going to sink her and she was never going to be indicted or charged, much less convicted over it. First and foremost, no justice department is going to try and stonk a nominee or presumed nominee, that smacks of political interference in elections even if it is not. It certainly wouldnt happen under a DoJ working under a president of the same political party.
More to the point, its not something most people care about or understand. Email policies are like EULA's to most people, and that just doeant rile people up, except largely the only people who care are the people who didnt like Clinton to begin with, which further reinforces the political interference view. That previous secretaries of state apprently engaged in similar behavior and nobody appears to be calling for them to be arrested, charged, shot or jailed, is also telling.
Finally, the Clintons have been through the ringer so many times that this just comes off as more "noise", if whitewater, bengazi, lewinski, etc werent gonna do it, inappropriate email use certainly wasnt. The public became numb to Clinton scandals, her "hate" level has essentially become saturated and misuse of email wasnt going to change the mind of anyone who didnt already have it made up.
The Clinton's are shady people. I think pretty much everybody agrees that they have that combination of weird secrecy and slickness that makes people not really trust them. It's so bad that people actual point to the lack of convictions, or even proof, of wrongdoing as part of the problem. It's hard to tell what they've really done wrong, and how bad it is, compared to many other presidents/candidates.
They are quite likely the most thoroughly investigated couple in world history, with embarrassingly little to show for it. Which means either they actually keep their noses clean, they are nearly superhuman in staying one step away from any wrong doing, or they are consistently able to bamboozle investigators ranging from the National Enquirer through to the US Congress. I'll take either in a head of state, to be honest.
A Town Called Malus wrote: So, you're arguing that Assanges internet access, in the Ecuadorian embassy in the UK, has been cut because he said some things about the US?
Yeah, that's not a completely impractical conspiracy theory
It would be a shame if we could easily get this information from a trusted si-
skyth wrote: I just had an amusing thought...The party that has the mantra that we should privatize everything because anything the government produces is worse and incompetent claims to be upset with someone privatizing their IT security because the government version is more secure...
I am assuming (Dangerous as that is) that you are referring to the Clinton E-mail scandal. If that isn't the case then ignore the next part because it doesn't directly pertain.
Nobody is upset that Clinton used a private IT security company because it wasn't a government one and as we all know government is better.....(Sarcasm)
We are upset because we know that Hillary's server was less secure then GMAIL and the last time I checked Anonymous and other hackers have yet to gain access to SIPPER and HIGHSIDE servers. In fact the only leaks from SIPPER and HIGHSIDE are from government insiders who copy documents off the server and give them to the public (Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden)
On classified networks it is against the regulations to take documents and information directly off the network, either by printing or saving to a CD/Thumb Drive, And it is physically impossible to e-mail it off the server because they aren't connected to other networks (You can't e-mail someone from a SIPPER network onto a regular internet network). That means that in order for Then Secretary of State Clinton to have those documents on her server at home, someone in the IT section had to have violated protocol, regulations and laws in order to move ALL of those documents off a secure network and put them on a regular network. It is not implausible that Mrs Clinton ordered Aids to literally hand jam all of those documents to her because she is wealthy and well connected, but its more likely they used thumb drives. For those who don't know, when you download documents onto a thumb drive or a CD it sends out warning notices across the board to the system administrators and the IT guys (On classified networks) that means that they were complicit in this breach of security as well.
In other words, nobody is mad that it wasn't a private firm, they are mad that Mrs Clinton broke the law, broke the rules, broke the regulations and so far hasn't even had her clearance stripped. Ironically though, almost everyone else involved was given an immunity agreement from the FBI.
This has possibly been the worst, most blatant violation of our justice system by a political candidate ever.
the problem is clinton is really not the one who would end up in prison. Everyone who sent her the classified documents would end up in prison, the sent classified information to a private server. Then lets keep in mind many other elected officals are also using private email servers. To investigate would end up just being a witch hunt and by the time the true extent of those "guilty" of this would me staggering. And since most of them hold high offices and include republicans, no elected official would spend a minute in jail.
That being said, hopefully clinton bringing this to light will end up with the system being fixed and everyone gets moved to the secure servers. If it was just hillary, than you'd have a point, but as it's a common occurrence across the political spectrum, than no it's not the worst, most blatant violation of our justice system by a political candidate ever.
This has possibly been the worst, most blatant violation of our justice system by a political candidate ever.
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Now,now...don't be throwing facts up in front of the deaf, dumb and blind. It's taken years of drumming innuendo into them to the point that it's fact in their conspiratory addled heads. They're just not equipped to look at things through the lens of reality.
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This has possibly been the worst, most blatant violation of our justice system by a political candidate ever.
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LMAO Kronk, possibly the worst comparison you could have made
Nixon was Impeached for refusing to hand over tapes/transcripts to the senate/congress and then for erasing 18 minutes of recordings. Those would have implicated him (more then likely) in sanctioning the watergate break in by the CREEP.
Clinton Deleted/Erased over 30,000 E-mails, some of which have been recovered and have been related to Benghazi and several other high profile agreements/scandals.
A Town Called Malus wrote: So, you're arguing that Assanges internet access, in the Ecuadorian embassy in the UK, has been cut because he said some things about the US?
Yeah, that's not a completely impractical conspiracy theory
It would be a shame if we could easily get this information from a trusted si-
skyth wrote: It's only considered the most blatant violation of our justice system by people that already hated the Clintons before Hillary ran for office.
They will not accept anything regardless of the multitude of investigations that haven't found anything they did wrong.
They being those of us who are upset that Clinton broke the law and is getting away with it?
The Multitude of investigations HAVE found wrongdoing In fact Director Comey even said as much. He said the only reason he didn't recommend charges was because he couldn't find "intent". He even further went on to say that if others do this they would be prosecuted. Literally spelling out the double standard and you sit here telling me its my imagination because I hate democrats/clinton Everyone is biased my friend, you need to realize yours.
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infinite_array wrote: So, if Clinton were to be convicted, then it'd be perfectly allowable to go after the people involved with the RNC's email server, right?
I don't care WHICH party people are in. If you leak classified intelligence you deserve to have your clearance suspended at the very least. I have never changed my stance on this position be it General Patraeus or Hillary Clinton. Breaking the law is breaking the law regardless of your "intent".
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