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Frazzled wrote: Which candidate was referring to the other side's voters? There's your answer.
Not surprising people are more offended by words than actions.
Considering both were words your statement appears to be addressing another topic.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Edit: Unrelated question. Any ideas how "Deplorables" managed to stick to Hilary while 'You Didn't Build That" and "Guns and God" didn't really stick to Obama electorally? What changed?
Gut reaction? Because HRC is so unlikable.
Whereas Obama, especially on the campaign trail, comes off extremely likable.
Edit: Unrelated question. Any ideas how "Deplorables" managed to stick to Hilary while 'You Didn't Build That" and "Guns and God" didn't really stick to Obama electorally? What changed?
25 years of Clinton hate conditioned into Republican voters. That's why the usual 60ish million cast their votes for a human gakstain.
edit: fix quote derp
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We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
feeder wrote: I agree it's a terrible idea. The alternative is whoever Trumppence puts forwards.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Fething deplorables and those who closed their eyes and got into bed with those deplorables really fethed your country.
There should be a mod alert about a Canadian insult a substantial portion of the United States.
Buds, you're one of the leading lights of sweeping generalizations on this board. Don't act all put out.
Besides, you voted for the stoner, remember? You're one of the good guys.
Indeed, but he refused to share the wealth. Come on dude at least pass the munchies.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Frazzled wrote: Which candidate was referring to the other side's voters? There's your answer.
Not surprising people are more offended by words than actions.
Considering both were words your statement appears to be addressing another topic.
This was the most up to date info I could find, specifically this chunk:
Trump said that the stories of him groping or forcing himself on women "have been largely debunked." His campaign offered no evidence of that. We found that five of the nine stories have not been independently disputed. Of the remaining four stories, the women told friends, family or colleagues at the time, which provides some support. On the flip side, there is the account of Trump’s former butler and a man who acknowledges that he has no proof of his version of events.
While some of the women’s stories have been questioned, not one has been conclusively debunked, and the majority of the stories haven’t been challenged by any facts other than Trump’s denials.
75 years ago the Japanese displayed professional brilliance and technological power launching surprises from Hawaii to the Philippines
Spoiler:
can you imagine the volley of bile and outrage if Obama or any democrat had tweeted this ?
Holy what the words I can't say on Dakka, how do the people who have a coronary if someone on the left is photographed without a flag pin support this man?
Oh, right, they already voted the man who doesn't know how many articles the Constitution has into the highest office in the country. I guess things changed.
feeder wrote: I agree it's a terrible idea. The alternative is whoever Trumppence puts forwards.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Fething deplorables and those who closed their eyes and got into bed with those deplorables really fethed your country.
There should be a mod alert about a Canadian insult a substantial portion of the United States.
Buds, you're one of the leading lights of sweeping generalizations on this board. Don't act all put out.
Besides, you voted for the stoner, remember? You're one of the good guys.
Indeed, but he refused to share the wealth. Come on dude at least pass the munchies.
Never thought I'd see the day when someone from the land of the Texas BBQ was asking someone from New Mexico for snacks.
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We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
75 years ago the Japanese displayed professional brilliance and technological power launching surprises from Hawaii to the Philippines
Spoiler:
The problem of course is that Democrats have screamed that every Republican presidential candidate is a racists since Goldwater. You even called Captain Milquetoast Romney a racist.
This time it backfired on you, and "bigly."
Commies voted for Bern. Should I try him for war crimes for what the Communists did?
can you imagine the volley of bile and outrage if Obama or any democrat had tweeted this ?
Holy what the words I can't say on Dakka, how do the people who have a coronary if someone on the left is photographed without a flag pin support this man?
Oh, right, they already voted the man who doesn't know how many articles the Constitution has into the highest office in the country. I guess things changed.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Considering how strongly you were #NeverTrump before the election, now that it's done you've jumped pretty hard on the ol' party bandwagon, eh?
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
Frazzled wrote: Which candidate was referring to the other side's voters? There's your answer.
Because...Trump never said anything offensive about people voting for Clinton? Is that the reality we're living in?
Maybe the difference is Trump was far more targeted in his offenses than Hillary was, like:
Mocking that disabled reporter.
"I like soldiers who weren't captured"
"She had blood coming out of her whatever"
The judge who would be biased because he's Mexican.
He wouldn't sexually assault ugly women
And so on...
"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
Frazzled wrote: Which candidate was referring to the other side's voters? There's your answer.
Because...Trump never said anything offensive about people voting for Clinton? Is that the reality we're living in?
Maybe the difference is Trump was far more targeted in his offenses than Hillary was, like:
Mocking that disabled reporter.
"I like soldiers who weren't captured"
"She had blood coming out of her whatever"
The judge who would be biased because he's Mexican.
He wouldn't sexually assault ugly women
And so on...
Again, those weren't opposing voters. Own it already.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Considering how strongly you were #NeverTrump before the election, now that it's done you've jumped pretty hard on the ol' party bandwagon, eh?
Well...the GOP pretty much controls all three branches. So, it's our job to hold them to task for the things they've campaigned for...
Trump, aka Drumpf, aka Cheeto Jesus isn't in charge yet, his transition team are making largely solid picks. (except, Carson HUD and Ross Commerce picks... wtf?!??!).
He'll have a honeymoon period for about 90 days... then, we'll all go back to hating the government.
A nation should put its citizens ahead of any other consideration.
There is a whole wide world for the refugees to flee to.
There's no small level of irony about a country founded by people leaving their homeland to start a better life, refusing entry to people who are leaving their homeland to start a better life. Especially since said country has some level of involvement in wanting them to leave their homeland in the first place.
Why can't you look after your own people AND refugees?
Small minds can only muster small vision. I mean this as a general response towards no one in particular but towards this whole "close the borders" nonsense as it's a global issue and needs squashing. There's the need for intelligent immigration policy, surely, but the xenophobic "build a wall" gak is a slap in the face to our founding principles. Our country, in particular, became and is great because of immigration and free trade. Now, those two issues have become the boogeyman to the fear-addled who eat up the lies and conspiracy theories fed to them by politicians playing upon their insecurities and reinforcing their complete belief in the misinformation they've taken as gospel.
No, it does not need "quashing", as you put it. Especially in Europe. But if they want their countries to go to hell in a handbasket, that's their business. I really don't give a damn how the run their nations internal matters.
What I'm concerned with is the sovereign borders of the United States of America. And those borders are being violated by illegals, in violation of our sovereignty and laws, with aid and abetting by people/entities in U.S. territory.
The problem with the idea of "intelligent immigration policy" is that any policy that involves securing the border and enforcing immigration laws is considered "inhuman", "xenophobic", and "racist" in the currently forged narrative.
To put it simply, enforce the current immigration laws and increase law enforcement at the U.S./Mexican border. You won't stop it completely. But you can slow it down and lessen it's impact. That's it. There is really nothing to "debate".
As for "The Wall", it's an impractical concept. But I look at it as more a "symbol" that more NEEDS to be done, especially with the current problems in Mexico. I have no problem with people coming from Mexico to start over, as long as they do it LEGALLY, in full compliance with the LAWS of the UNITED STATES. Anything else is goddamned inexcusable, no matter what rationale somebody comes up with otherwise.
Frazzled wrote: Which candidate was referring to the other side's voters? There's your answer.
Because...Trump never said anything offensive about people voting for Clinton? Is that the reality we're living in?
Maybe the difference is Trump was far more targeted in his offenses than Hillary was, like:
Mocking that disabled reporter.
"I like soldiers who weren't captured"
"She had blood coming out of her whatever"
The judge who would be biased because he's Mexican.
He wouldn't sexually assault ugly women
And so on...
Again, those weren't opposing voters. Own it already.
Yeah, I'm sure the people standing up to say that they had been sexually assaulted by a man running for president only to be called ugly liars on national television were absolutely voting for him. I know if someone grabs my junk on an airplane, I'm just itching to give them my vote.
Recognize that when getting your party's candidate to disavow white supremacists during the primary is like pulling teeth and there's Nazi groups literally going 'heil Trump', your party took a sharp turn into Crazyland.
Why even have the discussion? Your starting point is that the person is "looney."
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Why even have the discussion? Your starting point is that the person is "looney."
To see if whembly is fine with a racist and a looney being appointed to powerful positions because he did not mention them in his bad list and these two are among the worst
Frazzled wrote: Which candidate was referring to the other side's voters? There's your answer.
Because...Trump never said anything offensive about people voting for Clinton? Is that the reality we're living in?
Maybe the difference is Trump was far more targeted in his offenses than Hillary was, like:
Mocking that disabled reporter.
"I like soldiers who weren't captured"
"She had blood coming out of her whatever"
The judge who would be biased because he's Mexican.
He wouldn't sexually assault ugly women
And so on...
Again, those weren't opposing voters.
Are you really suggesting that all of those people (oh, and that gold star family) were not opposing voters?
Own it already.
"Own" what? I think if you go back through my posts, you'll see I never not owned it to begin with, so don't confuse me with someone else. My only issue is that some people keep erroneously inflating the numbers because they can't keep the terminology straight. I've never denied that it was a mistake and a bad thing to say.
"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
Why even have the discussion? Your starting point is that the person is "looney."
To see if whembly is fine with a racist and a looney being appointed to powerful positions because he did not mention them in his bad list and these two are among the worst
The last I heard, Trump hasn't settled on an appointment to Attorney General. Has that changed?
Why even have the discussion? Your starting point is that the person is "looney."
Assuming it's still DeVos, she is on the board of a think tank that published a "Bring back Child Labor, it's good for them" piece.
How do you describe such a train of thought?
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
Why even have the discussion? Your starting point is that the person is "looney."
To see if whembly is fine with a racist and a looney being appointed to powerful positions because he did not mention them in his bad list and these two are among the worst
If I were Whembly I would never post in this thread again. Its become an echo chamber of attacks on the Right - and more importantly-on him. I've told him that. He must love you guys.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Ustrello wrote: So you think the AG pick was a good idea? A man who is openly racist
Yes. He's a great pick.
You are going to have to point out how he's 'openly racist'.
This is a guy who
a) supported Eric Holder’s attorney general nomination;
b) fought the Ku Klux Klan in Alabama;
c) desegregated schools
d) involved in the prosecution of Henry Francis Hays for killing a black teenager.
Why even have the discussion? Your starting point is that the person is "looney."
Assuming it's still DeVos, she is on the board of a think tank that published a "Bring back Child Labor, it's good for them" piece.
How do you describe such a train of thought?
Please cite the article for me so i can look at it.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Frazzled wrote: Which candidate was referring to the other side's voters? There's your answer.
Because...Trump never said anything offensive about people voting for Clinton? Is that the reality we're living in?
Maybe the difference is Trump was far more targeted in his offenses than Hillary was, like:
Mocking that disabled reporter.
"I like soldiers who weren't captured"
"She had blood coming out of her whatever"
The judge who would be biased because he's Mexican.
He wouldn't sexually assault ugly women
And so on...
Again, those weren't opposing voters. Own it already.
Own it? Nothing about the words vs actions articles linked a couple posts ago? Own that.
Why even have the discussion? Your starting point is that the person is "looney."
To see if whembly is fine with a racist and a looney being appointed to powerful positions because he did not mention them in his bad list and these two are among the worst
If I were Whembly I would never post in this thread again. Its become an echo chamber of attacks on the Right - and more importantly-on him. I've told him that. He must love you guys.
I enjoy a good verbal brawl. I've said it before, this is the Thunderdome™.
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Frazzled wrote: Which candidate was referring to the other side's voters? There's your answer.
Because...Trump never said anything offensive about people voting for Clinton? Is that the reality we're living in?
Maybe the difference is Trump was far more targeted in his offenses than Hillary was, like:
Mocking that disabled reporter.
"I like soldiers who weren't captured"
"She had blood coming out of her whatever"
The judge who would be biased because he's Mexican.
He wouldn't sexually assault ugly women
And so on...
Again, those weren't opposing voters. Own it already.
Own it? Nothing about the words vs actions articles linked a couple posts ago? Own that.
I didn't vote for Trump. I haven't voted for a Republican since Reagan.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Why even have the discussion? Your starting point is that the person is "looney."
To see if whembly is fine with a racist and a looney being appointed to powerful positions because he did not mention them in his bad list and these two are among the worst
The last I heard, Trump hasn't settled on an appointment to Attorney General. Has that changed?
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