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2016/08/08 19:57:47
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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can someone that knows the Astra Militarum army list the units that have Destroyer weapons?
Please and thank you.
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2016/08/08 20:00:38
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
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Didn't the Shadowsword have a D weapon? I also think that was the only one that isn't going into titan territory.
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2016/08/08 21:28:37
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Pewling Menial
Right here, at the moment
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Correct, the only D weapon available to guard is the Shadowsword's Volcano Cannon
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2016/08/08 22:15:09
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Important note: Even with D, the shadowsword is overpriced af.
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2016/08/08 23:38:03
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Missionary On A Mission
Australia
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Shadowsword (Baneblade variant with a Large Blast D Gun)
Warhound/Reaver/Warlord Titans
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2016/08/09 00:00:50
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Just take Imperial Knights bro, battle brothers ftw.
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2016/08/09 00:47:50
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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IKs still don't have D shooting weapons, which are where its at. And they are very fragile for their points.
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2016/08/09 02:02:02
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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Martel732 wrote:IKs still don't have D shooting weapons, which are where its at. And they are very fragile for their points.
The Atrapos does
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2016/08/09 20:05:29
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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isn't it like 8" range? Yes it is still shooting, but most people dont consider assault grenades viable shooting options. That knight basically has a D strength grenade.
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2016/08/10 01:56:20
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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What? No Deathstrike?
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2016/08/10 02:19:44
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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2016/08/10 02:56:43
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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Whereas the smaller missiles on the Stormsurge are.
That always felt odd to me.
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2016/08/10 02:58:24
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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 Ashiraya wrote:Whereas the smaller missiles on the Stormsurge are.
That always felt odd to me.
There have to be a laser light show involved to make those missiles a D weapon.
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2016/08/10 15:16:07
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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IG should actually have a ton of D weapons in the form of tac nukes, but whatever.
http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=570
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2016/08/10 15:33:19
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Fixture of Dakka
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Playing that argument who wouldn't have lots of D?
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2016/08/10 16:01:31
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Where's my senior officer order that makes lasguns Strength D?
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2016/08/10 16:21:35
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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pm713 wrote:
Playing that argument who wouldn't have lots of D?
Maybe Nids. This is another point where I find the fluff unswallowable. If space marines were really "movie marines", I'd just waste them with nukes.
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2016/08/10 16:36:30
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Exalted for the pure bad assery of this statement!
Guess which race has access to the most Strength D? Eldar does, is that the way it should be in the 40k universe? Second which is debatable is Chaos Daemons with Str D melee weapons or psychic shooting attacks. I believe thats the point they are trying to make the enemy has more weapons of mass destruction but somehow humans win more battles? 
I don't know I am not GW I am taking educated guesses! 
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2016/08/10 18:53:58
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Moscow, Russia
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Everyone should actually have a ton of D weapons in the form of tac nukes, since they're not terribly high-tech, but whatever.
Oh yeah, a weapon that affected everything on the table would be kind of boring
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2016/08/10 18:57:54
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Boring, but more reasonable than folding like a cheap suit vs any and all Xeno armies. I'd totally nuke the gak out of any Eldar I saw due to their superior tech.
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2016/08/10 18:59:06
Subject: Re:Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Thanks for all the posts. I would have thought that the IG would have had more D options than a super heavy tank. some of the 1 shot tanks like the death strike should have a D but it gets the D.
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2016/08/10 19:38:04
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Martel732 wrote:pm713 wrote:
Playing that argument who wouldn't have lots of D?
Maybe Nids. This is another point where I find the fluff unswallowable. If space marines were really "movie marines", I'd just waste them with nukes.
Even they can drop giant explosives.
Well that's just a terrible plan isn't it.
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2016/08/11 02:47:48
Subject: Re:Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Douglas Bader
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deadsilent wrote:Thanks for all the posts. I would have thought that the IG would have had more D options than a super heavy tank. some of the 1 shot tanks like the death strike should have a D but it gets the D.
IG have an old codex (their "new" codex hardly changed anything), from before things went completely insane in 7th with Apocalypse-level stuff everywhere. So they have a balanced LoW option and that's it, just like other armies would have been limited to similar units. In 8th edition lasguns will probably become STR D because power creep is awesome, right?
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2016/08/11 14:11:22
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Homerule your conscripts to have sD lazguns that get hot on a 2+ and when the save is failed, they explode as an apocalyptic s2 ap- blast
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2016/08/11 14:38:45
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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 koooaei wrote:Homerule your conscripts to have sD lazguns that get hot on a 2+ and when the save is failed, they explode as an apocalyptic s2 ap- blast
No points increase.
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2016/08/12 14:38:39
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Legendary Dogfighter
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Deathstrike should be D since it was as D as you could get before D was invented.
The Shadowsword volcano cannon should have the same profile as the one on the Reaver, i.e. 7" blast. It would actually somewhat make sense at the current price point if it was, though we'd need larger tables!
The Neutron laser destroyer should be D with the same goofy weapon feedback rule applying on a 1. Same price and would be a 'sensible' D carrier.
Beyond that I don't see much more need for D models in IG, since the systemic problems still stand, and fixing those would be more valuable :|
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2016/08/15 06:28:43
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Moscow, Russia
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Ashiraya wrote:Whereas the smaller missiles on the Stormsurge are.
That always felt odd to me.
The Destroyer missiles are supposed to use targeting information fed to an AI to home in a weak point.
It's not D because of its pure destructive power. Without targeting the weak point it's S8.
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2016/08/21 05:17:33
Subject: Re:Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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You could take a
Aquila Strongpoint Fortification (at 535pts) and add a Macro Cannon
or
Primus Redoubt Fortification (at 650pts).
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2016/08/21 23:51:06
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Alcibiades wrote: Ashiraya wrote:Whereas the smaller missiles on the Stormsurge are.
That always felt odd to me.
The Destroyer missiles are supposed to use targeting information fed to an AI to home in a weak point.
It's not D because of its pure destructive power. Without targeting the weak point it's S8.
Hmm... Wouldn't putting an AI in a missile be murder by Tau standards?
Anyway, that doesn't explain why Tyranid weapons that do the exact same thing (Hive Guard guns) don't have Str: D.
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2016/08/26 18:08:48
Subject: Astra Militarum with D weapons?
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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 Verviedi wrote:Alcibiades wrote: Ashiraya wrote:Whereas the smaller missiles on the Stormsurge are.
That always felt odd to me.
The Destroyer missiles are supposed to use targeting information fed to an AI to home in a weak point.
It's not D because of its pure destructive power. Without targeting the weak point it's S8.
Hmm... Wouldn't putting an AI in a missile be murder by Tau standards?
Anyway, that doesn't explain why Tyranid weapons that do the exact same thing (Hive Guard guns) don't have Str: D.
Tyranids are not as smart as Tau AI. Hive guard guns projectiles are not as good as Tau missiles.
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