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 gwarsh41 wrote:
isn't it like 8" range? Yes it is still shooting, but most people dont consider assault grenades viable shooting options. That knight basically has a D strength grenade.


No it has a D blast with a huge range, but you have to roll a 6 before shooting the main cannon.
   
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Heldericht wrote:
 gwarsh41 wrote:
isn't it like 8" range? Yes it is still shooting, but most people dont consider assault grenades viable shooting options. That knight basically has a D strength grenade.


No it has a D blast with a huge range, but you have to roll a 6 before shooting the main cannon.


It also has a regular (non-blast) D-weapon shot with 8" range as an alternate profile for its melee weapon.

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By rights, IG should several Str D barrages before the game to represent davy crockett type tac nukes before engaging the enemy. I suspect that would draw a lot of hate, though.
   
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Probably not. Because Nukes, sadly, are the kind of "that needs actual skill to manufacture" technology that would be reserved by the Mechanicus. Certainly compact weapons, anyway.

Nukes are a weapon recognised in the 41st millenium, by the way; they're mentioned in a few places - the Princeps of the Imperius Dictatio (mis)identifies a massive detonation and mushroom cloud as a nuclear detonation.

They're just disliked as a weapon by the Imperium because of nuclear contamination; even the most unpleasant conventional battle will still leave the world useable again within a decade or so; whilst massed use of nukes is a long-term problem. It's the same logic as "send in 1,000,000 more guardsmen to certain death" being a better long term plan than "exterminatus from orbit".

If space marines were really "movie marines", I'd just waste them with nukes.

The problem is actually targeting them. Marines are ludicrously fast in tactical mobility (in most 'real case' battlefield scenarios, you see them enter either by orbital drop, teleport, or gunship) and (unlike a board game) tend not to engage in fair fights.

But 'nuke it' is definitely a thing. Steve Jackson discussed the 'Ogre Limit' (named for an old board game) in a gaming article years ago - the maximum size at which you can viably build a war engine, because anything bigger is worth using strategic weapons (like nukes and orbital gunfire) on.

Quite a lot of 40k war engines are well the wrong side of this line.....



In practice, yes, the only Destroyer weapon the Imperial Guard have native access to is the Volcano Cannon of the Shadowsword, or Turbolasers/Volcano Cannons on attached Titans.

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I'd Davey Crockett everything Riptide and bigger.

"The problem is actually targeting them. Marines are ludicrously fast in tactical mobility (in most 'real case' battlefield scenarios, you see them enter either by orbital drop, teleport, or gunship) and (unlike a board game) tend not to engage in fair fights."

They could be targeted. Especially if you put the weapons on power armor ala Starship Troopers on a Y-rack.

I find it amusing that the vaunted space marines big advantage fluff wise is almost purely at the strategic deployment level. One intel failure and you lose an entire chapter. They can only win unfair fights.

" "that needs actual skill to manufacture""

Hiroshima-level bombs are purely analog and require very little skill. Not as portable, but the IG could convert a Valkyrie to carry it. Those bombs are liveable after a few decades. Look at modern Hiroshima. I'd trade 50 years to eliminate titan-level equipment everytime. And supremacy suits, etc.

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