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Im not asking because thats what im wanting it to be, quite the opposite, i would rather have a fluffy list then a hyper tuned murder death star list.

I ask because every game i have played with this list i have won save for a game vs wraith eldar list x.x , granted a few times it was a very narrow victory. I once won with only a single model on the field.

The main reason i ask is because i dont want to be seen as TFG that runs a power list.

any way, a high over view of the list at 2k points

Deathwing

HQ
Level 2 lib with a relic SB

DW Command squad kitten with everything
DW Squad with assault cannon
DW Squad with plasma cannon
DW knight squad

Ravenwing
HQ Lib on a bike level 2

RW bike squad with a plasma gun
RW bike squad with Grav gun
RW bike Squad with Grav gun
Ravenwing command squad 6 black knights total, fully kitted with banner, apoth, and champion
Dark shroud with assault cannon

Assassin
Vindicare assassin because i like to play the gambling game with a sniper.

That actually seems like a solid list, without jumping into the realms of cheese. Just because you win with it a lot doesn't mean you're a TFG. I use full squads of Tomb Blades and Immortals and Lychguard, instead of MSU. I also use sub-par formations, and run named characters occasionally. I pretty much always win. That doesn't make me a TFG, right? So you're fine.

Now, granted, it also has to do with your attitude and how you carry yourself during a game. In that case, you could very well be a TFG and we wouldn't really have a way to know.

 krodarklorr wrote:
That actually seems like a solid list, without jumping into the realms of cheese. Just because you win with it a lot doesn't mean you're a TFG. I use full squads of Tomb Blades and Immortals and Lychguard, instead of MSU. I also use sub-par formations, and run named characters occasionally. I pretty much always win. That doesn't make me a TFG, right? So you're fine.

Now, granted, it also has to do with your attitude and how you carry yourself during a game. In that case, you could very well be a TFG and we wouldn't really have a way to know.

Well i dont come off as a dick, the game i played yesterday was with a guild player that i ended up just murdering, my sniper actually did something and took out both of his quake cannons, one in turn on. and then i ended up cutting his forces off because a vehicle got wrecked and blocked him. (We played with lots of terrain) so we seemed to have a good time, and 9/10 times i always let the advantage go to him, IE a weapon destroyed you get to pick which weapon., things like that.

 Backspacehacker wrote:

 krodarklorr wrote:
That actually seems like a solid list, without jumping into the realms of cheese. Just because you win with it a lot doesn't mean you're a TFG. I use full squads of Tomb Blades and Immortals and Lychguard, instead of MSU. I also use sub-par formations, and run named characters occasionally. I pretty much always win. That doesn't make me a TFG, right? So you're fine.

Now, granted, it also has to do with your attitude and how you carry yourself during a game. In that case, you could very well be a TFG and we wouldn't really have a way to know.

Well i dont come off as a dick, the game i played yesterday was with a guild player that i ended up just murdering, my sniper actually did something and took out both of his quake cannons, one in turn on. and then i ended up cutting his forces off because a vehicle got wrecked and blocked him. (We played with lots of terrain) so we seemed to have a good time, and 9/10 times i always let the advantage go to him, IE a weapon destroyed you get to pick which weapon., things like that.

Well then you're fine. Now, if someone comes off and says you're a TFG, then they're probably just butt-hurt.

Also, what guild are you referring to?

Sorry, meant to say guy, dont know how guild came outta that, auto correct is a not nice person

 Backspacehacker wrote:
Sorry, meant to say guy, dont know how guild came outta that, auto correct is a not nice person

Ah, lol. I only asked because we have a guild of gamers in the area, so I was wondering if you were close!

You have 4 squads of terminators so I think you are not a power gamer.

 Draco wrote:
You have 4 squads of terminators so I think you are not a power gamer.

Pretty much this right here- you have Deathwing, so no way you can be considered power gaming.

Looks like a solid list, you may want to tone it down against the lower tier codexes but other than that seems solid, and if you're getting close games then that's all the better!

 Torus wrote:
Looks like a solid list, you may want to tone it down against the lower tier codexes but other than that seems solid, and if you're getting close games then that's all the better!

I try to, in 1500 point games i dont have the dark shroud and a terminator with a plasma cannon so they dont need to deal with 2+ Re-rollable shannanagins

I'd say it's actually pretty fluffy and there are plenty of armies out there that would mulch this list. You have my support, you are not a power gamer.

 Backspacehacker wrote:

DW Command squad kitten with everything

Death Watch can taken kittens? I'm switching factions!... what about puppies, can they take puppies? or is that just a spacewolf thing.

wtnind wrote:

 Backspacehacker wrote:

DW Command squad kitten with everything

Death Watch can taken kittens? I'm switching factions!... what about puppies, can they take puppies? or is that just a spacewolf thing.

So that is only a space wolf thing, this is the actual reason for the long standing rivalry between the dark Angels and the space wolves it all started when Russ said Loin's cat made him look like a sissy, and then lion said Russ's pug was ugly then they fought

Ravenwing are good, Deathwing are bad. Combined it's a fine middle-tier army. Played well, you could win half your games at a GT. The Vindicare is only barely worth his points but he does give your army some reach.

 axisofentropy wrote:
Ravenwing are good, Deathwing are bad. Combined it's a fine middle-tier army. Played well, you could win half your games at a GT. The Vindicare is only barely worth his points but he does give your army some reach.

I have been told that but so far that SOB has done his job good, in a single game took out a earth shaker, took out the battle cannon of a tank, poped a commissar all in a single match.

For me he is a high risk high reward deal. Odd the does a better job at killing imperial forces then Xenos