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This is how GW should deal with competition - leverage its position and resources and offer a compelling alternative, not run around litigating.
Only seem to litigate when some asshat company directly uses their IP by labeling things oh I don't know GW Tervigon conversion kit or GW space marine Salamander shoulder pads. Haven't seem Kromlech or others get litigated.
That being said.....some poor soul was definately fired for this....and said poor soul has probably murdered whatever arsehole friend shared those pictures on the night and screwed his buddy out of a career......but I've no sympathy for him as he should know better and those models are friggin awesome. Thanks poor jobless/friendless dude
This is how GW should deal with competition - leverage its position and resources and offer a compelling alternative, not run around litigating.
Only seem to litigate when some asshat company directly uses their IP by labeling things oh I don't know GW Tervigon conversion kit or GW space marine Salamander shoulder pads. Haven't seem Kromlech or others get litigated.
That being said.....some poor soul was definately fired for this....and said poor soul has probably murdered whatever arsehole friend shared those pictures on the night and screwed his buddy out of a career......but I've no sympathy for him as he should know better and those models are friggin awesome. Thanks poor jobless/friendless dude
Its pretty silly to think that all of the "leaks" GW has done in the past X years are all employees sneaking them/ friends sneaking them. I'm not one for conspiracies, but id be willing to bet quite a lot that its all part of their marketing to "pretend" it got out to build hype.
This is how GW should deal with competition - leverage its position and resources and offer a compelling alternative, not run around litigating.
Only seem to litigate when some asshat company directly uses their IP by labeling things oh I don't know GW Tervigon conversion kit or GW space marine Salamander shoulder pads. Haven't seem Kromlech or others get litigated.
Curious how you feel you can post something so spectacularly ill-informed and inaccurate and not be challenged on it?
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Nothing GW does will ever be good enough for some, of course. But just to be sporting, why not wait for some clear images?
No joke... they look like the Heresy art that has been around for the past 10 years... you are disappointed they look exactly as they should? Being gold and human is enough to make them Sigmarine knock-offs? Come on, a little patience, the details on these could be incredible and be more than enough to make them special, hold your horses bro... You may still hate them even then but it's a bit early to burn the bridge based on 20 pixel tall images.
motski wrote: It will be interesting to see the stat line on those Custodes and their wargear
We know the Guardian Spear statline already- S +1 AP2 Melee, Block (choose one enemy to hit dice, roll a d6, if your roll is higher than the hit is ignored), Two handed, with a bolter attached.
I see 2 of them- one in the back left is pointing it out forwards, and the one on the right, mostly hidden behind the Total WArhammer code has one angled up to the right.
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So that custodes next to Bjorn is totally Constantin Valdor, (second in command next to the emp of custodes) Mohawk and all. He was present on Prospero during the attack.
This is how GW should deal with competition - leverage its position and resources and offer a compelling alternative, not run around litigating.
Only seem to litigate when some asshat company directly uses their IP by labeling things oh I don't know GW Tervigon conversion kit or GW space marine Salamander shoulder pads. Haven't seem Kromlech or others get litigated.
Curious how you feel you can post something so spectacularly ill-informed and inaccurate and not be challenged on it?
I was actually wondering the very same thing...
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Midnightdeathblade wrote: So that custodes next to Bjorn is totally Constantin Valdor, (second in command next to the emp of custodes) Mohawk and all. He was present on Prospero during the attack.
However, Forgeworld said that they were doing a Valdor model (from what I remember) and Valdor has a halberd. Mohawks could just be a common haircut amongst Custodes.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote: So that custodes next to Bjorn is totally Constantin Valdor, (second in command next to the emp of custodes) Mohawk and all. He was present on Prospero during the attack.
However, Forgeworld said that they were doing a Valdor model (from what I remember) and Valdor has a halberd. Mohawks could just be a common haircut amongst Custodes.
That, combined with the earlier comment by Heretian that the SW character is not Bjorn makes me suspect that they put in characters that take design cues from specific characters (Ahriman, Bjorn, and Valdor) but are meant to be more generic (Thousand Sons librarian, Space Woves officer, Custodes officer), providing players with a character that's close enough to use as those named characters until FW does them, but not so completely specific that they're a pain to use as anyone BUT those characters.
This is how GW should deal with competition - leverage its position and resources and offer a compelling alternative, not run around litigating.
Only seem to litigate when some asshat company directly uses their IP by labeling things oh I don't know GW Tervigon conversion kit or GW space marine Salamander shoulder pads. Haven't seem Kromlech or others get litigated.
Curious how you feel you can post something so spectacularly ill-informed and inaccurate and not be challenged on it?
I was actually wondering the very same thing...
I am curious what companies that did not specifically say it was for GW products were litigated against?
Still, this is pretty exciting to see. Really like that they have made it affordable to get into 30k. Now its reasonable to get the chapter specific conversion kits rather than have to buy both and then waste a bunch of resin.
People who stopped buying GW but wont stop bitching about it are the vegans of warhammer
Midnightdeathblade wrote: So that custodes next to Bjorn is totally Constantin Valdor, (second in command next to the emp of custodes) Mohawk and all. He was present on Prospero during the attack.
However, Forgeworld said that they were doing a Valdor model (from what I remember) and Valdor has a halberd. Mohawks could just be a common haircut amongst Custodes.
That, combined with the earlier comment by Heretian that the SW character is not Bjorn makes me suspect that they put in characters that take design cues from specific characters (Ahriman, Bjorn, and Valdor) but are meant to be more generic (Thousand Sons librarian, Space Woves officer, Custodes officer), providing players with a character that's close enough to use as those named characters until FW does them, but not so completely specific that they're a pain to use as anyone BUT those characters.
Midnightdeathblade wrote: So that custodes next to Bjorn is totally Constantin Valdor, (second in command next to the emp of custodes) Mohawk and all. He was present on Prospero during the attack.
However, Forgeworld said that they were doing a Valdor model (from what I remember) and Valdor has a halberd. Mohawks could just be a common haircut amongst Custodes.
That, combined with the earlier comment by Heretian that the SW character is not Bjorn makes me suspect that they put in characters that take design cues from specific characters (Ahriman, Bjorn, and Valdor) but are meant to be more generic (Thousand Sons librarian, Space Woves officer, Custodes officer), providing players with a character that's close enough to use as those named characters until FW does them, but not so completely specific that they're a pain to use as anyone BUT those characters.
Basically - special characters lite.
Probably intended to be used as the named characters in the board game's missions or whatever....but just generic enough to become fancy normal characters when FW release their £40 resin versions of them.
This is how GW should deal with competition - leverage its position and resources and offer a compelling alternative, not run around litigating.
Only seem to litigate when some asshat company directly uses their IP by labeling things oh I don't know GW Tervigon conversion kit or GW space marine Salamander shoulder pads. Haven't seem Kromlech or others get litigated.
Curious how you feel you can post something so spectacularly ill-informed and inaccurate and not be challenged on it?
I was actually wondering the very same thing...
I am curious what companies that did not specifically say it was for GW products were litigated against?
Well, there's the "trademark bullying" thing about the term Space Marine, people weren't too happy about that. Doesn't really answer your question but it's an example of GW being a bit trigger-happy. It's great to see people are finding a way to drag another thread off-topic, I guess in lieu of more pics it's to be expected
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I wonder if we will ever get any plastic HH models that are not in a boxed game first? If GW keep up the board game release pattern they used for Calth it kinda rules out anything bigger and faster than a Dread.
GoatboyBeta wrote: I wonder if we will ever get any plastic HH models that are not in a boxed game first? If GW keep up the board game release pattern they used for Calth it kinda rules out anything bigger and faster than a Dread.
It seems the plan is to get people into heresy gaming so they can then discover those nice forgeworld kits.
Definitely a sister in the background of that pic. I wonder if the wayback machine would allow the clearer pic to be seen on the blood angels site?
GoatboyBeta wrote: I wonder if we will ever get any plastic HH models that are not in a boxed game first? If GW keep up the board game release pattern they used for Calth it kinda rules out anything bigger and faster than a Dread.
Probably not. It'd tread on FWs toes and why would you when they're doing such a great job?
Besides which, outside of the Contemptor and basic infantry (maybe Deimos Rhino and perhaps Deredo too these days) sales volumes presumably don't justify the outlay for plastic tooling when FW is doing just fine.
Looks like my question about Custodes pectorals was a bit of a pot stirrer I was just wondering because I recently read a wiki entry on them and they were described as bare-chested and the shirtless drawing is one of the things that has stuck with me, even after Dave Taylor's Custodes and those (CCG?) artworks with super blinged up Custodes. Would be 40k as hell to have shirtless guards.
PS: That SW seems to be sooo good.
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According to John Blanche's portfolio they wore elaborate power armour (artificer?) during the Heresy and only dropped it for their "mourning" uniform post the Emperor's interment.
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Mr_Rose wrote: According to John Blanche's portfolio they wore elaborate power armour (artificer?) during the Heresy and only dropped it for their "mourning" uniform post the Emperor's interment.
Which makes the bling models unlikely to appear in 40k. Unless of course the emperor wakes up.
I don't think it would be hard to work up a rational for why they would still use the armor in the 40k period, but also at times go armor less.
Perhaps 'on patrol' or otherwise public appearances they go armorless save the helmet, etc. But when on Duty (or in certain sectors of the Palace) they stil use the armor.
Like wise if for some reason they were ever called off for some duty the would use it again. (long standing order to occasionally do X in the name of the Emperor, or perhaps the circumstance that the Emperor some how gives a new order- or the politics of Terra demand they do X at some point to achieve Y- lots of potential things, I'd say...)
In general though I never thought Id see the day when these rolled out- I'm SUPER stoked.
I'm hoping they don't appear in 40K at all, they've no reason to leave Terra unless GW do something monumentally stupid to the fluff like wake up the God-Corpsicle or bring back Loyalist primarchs and have them depose the Emperor.
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Either that or the shirtless look somehow represents an upgrade in personal protection; subdermal forcefield generators or something? It shouldn't be too weird for the Emperor's personal guard to have protections utterly unknown outside the palace...
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StupidYellow wrote: Aren't Custodes supposedly more powerful than a space marine ?
S.Y.
that's what I thought.
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StupidYellow wrote: Aren't Custodes supposedly more powerful than a space marine ?
S.Y.
that's what I thought.
Fluff says they are in a one on one fight, but training varies between the two. SM focusing on force on force fights. The LC being more one on one and anti assassination. Youtube a vid of military combative training and then some crazy martial art like kali. Both are effective but in different situations.
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