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We all know that a Space Marine Veteran is given access to Terminator armour when they enter the first company, but is there a similar system for Centurion armour?

Because as far as I know they are given to battle companies so does the marine have to have some kind of battle honour? Or are they just given on an as-needed basis?

They are held by the Eight and Ninth companies.

Centurion Warsuits aren't worn (like power or terminator armour) but 'piloted' - it's much more like controlling a mini-titan, which supposedly links into the machine spirit of your armour.

Therefore, they're held by the assault and devastator specialists; whilst a 'normal' marine's career goes through scout-devastator-assault marine-tactical marine-veteran, there are experienced marines who've remained in the devastator and assault companies, and these are the people who end up as centurion pilots. Squads from the 8th and 9th are regularly detached to battle companies as support, sometimes they're in centurion suits.

There is a specific battle honour - the Centurion Honour is the crossed fists (the thing on a centurion's shoulder) although there's no model in power armour with centurion honours (I think they missed a trick by not putting a pad with that on in the devastator/assault box)

The Battle Companies also have Centurion suits. The current Codex: Space Marines shows Ultramarines Centurions in the heraldry of the 2nd, 4th, 5th.

The studio Ultramarine models bear the colours of the 2nd Company, while their Imperial Fists are in 3rd Company colours.

I think they are handed out as-needed. Sort of like how assault marines can take the field piloting land speeders/on bikes/etc. Just another option. But worn by basic battle brothers from assault/dev squads.

I do recall reding about the battle honor to field them. IIRC it’s not like veteran status, but more like they’ve been qualified in the gear. I don’t think it’s mandatory as part of their training to check out in cent suits, so it’s not going to be everyone. The chapter probably checks for aptitude during time in the reserves squads, and trains those who show promise.

But that’s just my educated guess. IIRC there is not a whole lot of fluff on these guys, being a shoehorned new gizmo.

Small part of the reason I've yet to use them is because I don't know how they fit in lore wise lol. It'd make sense if certain members of devastator squads are told to upgrade to wear the suits and the rest of the squad supports them. Other than that, yeah it seems to break codex of maintaining 10 man squads.

I think they are listed as part of the Armory actually, and are deployed on a need to basis. That being said, any field Devastator or reserve Devastators could be assigned the armor.

locarno24 wrote:

Centurion Warsuits aren't worn (like power or terminator armour) but 'piloted' - it's much more like controlling a mini-titan, which supposedly links into the machine spirit of your armour.

Lets make them 10/10/10 walkers

"Operating" a Centurion suit would be an acquired skill (with its own merit badge), like piloting a Land Speeder. Not a high honor like donning Terminator armor. As F'ing ugly as Centurions are, it may not even be a sought after assignment.

I use an assault Centurion in Space Hulk (with homemade rules) in specific scenarios, like breaching blocked passageways. The way I see it, the Centurion (and its pilot) are "on loan" from another company, held in reserves, and assigned to the 1st Co. Terminators for specialized duty. The Terminators are still the honored veterans with the first right to die in droves at the hands/claws of the genestealers. For the record, my Space Hulk Centurion rules have them fight like a Broodlord from the front and side, and die like a Terminator when attacked from behind.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
I think they are listed as part of the Armory actually, and are deployed on a need to basis. That being said, any field Devastator or reserve Devastators could be assigned the armor.

Neither the 6th nor 7th editions of Codex: Space Marines make any mention of Centurion suits in relation to the Armoury.

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
I think they are listed as part of the Armory actually, and are deployed on a need to basis. That being said, any field Devastator or reserve Devastators could be assigned the armor.

Neither the 6th nor 7th editions of Codex: Space Marines make any mention of Centurion suits in relation to the Armoury.

Chapter Command Structure lists: Armory
Master of the Forge;
Tech marines
Servitors
Battle tanks
Land Raiders
Gunships
CENTURION Warsuits
Landspeeders
Bikes and Attack bikes.

This chart has been listed in both 6th edition and 7th edition codexes. Pg 60 on the pdf.

So they are. You are correct.

You darn Brits! IF 40K was designed by Americans, motorbikes would dang sure be listed as a Marine's personal item.

"The Tyranids are here! Where's my Hog?"

"Hmm, Sergeant, let me see. Ah, it appears it was signed for and checked out by that new Scout recruit."

"Sergeant! Wait! Wahhh, Wah, Why are you energizing your chainsword!?"

 Nightlord1987 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
I think they are listed as part of the Armory actually, and are deployed on a need to basis. That being said, any field Devastator or reserve Devastators could be assigned the armor.

Neither the 6th nor 7th editions of Codex: Space Marines make any mention of Centurion suits in relation to the Armoury.

This chart has been listed in both 6th edition and 7th edition codexes. Pg 60 on the pdf.

Just because some are in the armoury doesn't mean they're all in the armoury. The 7th edition Armoury box is copied from the 6th edition Armoury box but without the salient numbers which was a mere 19 for Land Speeders - a fully equipped Codex chapter should have 160+* Land Speeders, unless the mighty Ultramarines have lost the ability to maintain grav-plates that mere 19 must represent a small pool of spares. The same could also apply to Centurions since like Speeders they don't have Armoury crews - 24 suits listed when the Battle Companies have enough men to field 160.

* The only official numbers I've ever seen for Battle Company Speeder compliment is 5 each of regular, Typhoon and Tornado Speeders.

EDIT: Disregard, I found the source of the Land Speeder estimation

 Gashrog wrote:

 Nightlord1987 wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
I think they are listed as part of the Armory actually, and are deployed on a need to basis. That being said, any field Devastator or reserve Devastators could be assigned the armor.

Neither the 6th nor 7th editions of Codex: Space Marines make any mention of Centurion suits in relation to the Armoury.

This chart has been listed in both 6th edition and 7th edition codexes. Pg 60 on the pdf.

Just because some are in the armoury doesn't mean they're all in the armoury. The 7th edition Armoury box is copied from the 6th edition Armoury box but without the salient numbers which was a mere 19 for Land Speeders - a fully equipped Codex chapter should have 160+* Land Speeders, unless the mighty Ultramarines have lost the ability to maintain grav-plates that mere 19 must represent a small pool of spares. The same could also apply to Centurions since like Speeders they don't have Armoury crews - 24 suits listed when the Battle Companies have enough men to field 160.

* The only official numbers I've ever seen for Battle Company Speeder compliment is 5 each of regular, Typhoon and Tornado Speeders.

There rarely ever going to be running a perfect armory list. You always have things in repair, destroyed, lost or maybe being used on training missions for the 10th.

The armoury is probably a pretty fluid place.

Simple you kill the traitor who wears one.
Kick out his corpse add some spikes to it and grinn at whoever wants to steal it from you.

 oldzoggy wrote:
Simple you kill the traitor who wears one.
Kick out his corpse add some spikes to it and grinn at whoever wants to steal it from you.

Just gotta stomp da kanned beakie and lootz it fer meself. Get dem mek boyz to fix er up with sum proppa dakka (what da zog is dis "Grav" gak, it don't even kill a grot) and be da flashest Nob in da Waaagh!!! Just don't let da boss seez dat his kit ain't as snazz killy as mine.