Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.
Jack Chick, soul-winner and Catholic-hater, is dead.Chick, who produced hundreds of fundamentalist Christian tracts over 50 years, passed yesterday at the age of 92. He was initially known for tracts like “This Was Your Life,” which used compelling and sometimes frightening visuals to depict fundamentalist beliefs about hell and salvation. His contribution to the Satanic Panic rightfully earned him public infamy, as did his fear-mongering about feminism, LGBT rights, New Age spirituality, and even Catholicism.
Chick was a true cultural separatist whose doctrinal views were heavily influenced by works like The Fundamentals and Charles Finney’s Power From On High. Only the King James Version of the Bible sufficed; Satan is directly responsible for all other translations. Catholics? They’ve eaten the infamous Death Cookie and are doomed to hell. Infant baptism? Dangerous heresy! Dungeons and Dragons? If you have to ask, you’ve probably got one foot in the lake of fire already.
A few of Chick’s views, specifically on abortion, evolution, and LGBT people, possess a pernicious longevity. He celebrated AIDS as just deserts for anyone who didn’t adhere to his stringent sexual standards—a sentiment 14 percent of Americans still believe:
But in other respects, his obsessive cultural puritanism has fallen out of vogue. There are still some proponents, found mostly in Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches and institutions like Bob Jones University and Pensacola Christian College, but they’re a minority, doomed partially by their own separatism. Evangelicalism dominates.
With that domination came the cultural acquiescence Chick so feared. Conservative Catholics and Protestants are now allies in the culture wars, and the targets of that war have shifted a bit. Nobody cares about Dungeons and Dragons these days, and it’s been a long time since anyone publicly burned a Harry Potter book. Young evangelicals (no survey separates evangelicals from fundamentalists) are softer than older generations on issues like evolution and LGBT rights. That’s a strong indication that Chick’s version of Christianity is set to become increasingly obscure.
His tracts therefore provide an interesting perspective on conservative Protestantism’s American mutations: Chick once arguably sat within the movement’s mainstream, only to live long enough to see it leave him behind.
At least he was spared yet another Halloween.
...so..
yeah.
... ummm ..
I will mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
Ohhh, it's the Dungeons and Dragons is satanic guy. Yeah, good riddance.
Poor ignorant guardsmen, it be but one of many of the great miracles of the Emperor! The Emperor is magic, like Harry Potter, but more magic! A most real and true SPACE WIZARD! And for the last time... I'm not a space plumber.
Ugh, I remember digging his stuff and copies of "The Watchtower" from our displays and product back stock when I worked for GW. At the end of almost every night we would find a smattering of that stuff scattered around the store. It was funny to us at first, but then when a woman (who I am convinced was one of the culprits, but I cannot confirm this) came into the store and lost her gak at us because my Cult of Slaanesh army was in the display case during the Storm of Chaos. Despite assuring her that it was very clear that they were the bad guys in the story, she continued to rant about turning children to Satan with inanimate pieces of pewter.
I'll be sure to raise a glass to the memory of his craziness at the start of Sundays Kobolds Ate my Baby! game once we're done generating characters for the D&D campaign I'm going to run.
"I have concluded through careful empirical analysis and much thought that somebody is looking out for me, keeping track of what I think about things, forgiving me when I do less than I ought, giving me strength to shoot for more than I think I am capable of. I believe they know everything that I do and think, and they still love me. And I’ve concluded, after careful consideration, that this person keeping score is me." -Adam Savage
Lord Kragan wrote: Honestly it will be sad, I liked the guys of the bible reloaded mocking his stupid ideas. Now they will run out of material.
Jack has been a figurehead for a while now. The company has already said they will carry on, so no worries. Hugo and Jake will have plenty to laugh at.
Not going to mourn this man. No joy in his death, but no grief, either.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
Well about time. There is one less biggot in the world, and the insult that was Jack Chick living longer than Gary Gygax has finally been rectified. Either way, I do not bare him any real ill thoughts though, after all /tg/ really did some work on his tracts, and now they will not have any ammunition.
Free from GW's tyranny and the hobby is looking better for it
DR:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Pww205++D++A+++/sWD146R++T(T)D+
At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money.
...And Forgive us Our Trespasses, as we Forgive those who Trespass against Us... Forgive him. It would drive him nuts. Hatemongers can't handle forgiveness. It's something they cannot understand. And it is the truly Christian thing to do. Nice Irony.
I suspect his afterlife may consist of wandering through steam tunnels while Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson take turns pursuing him in order to kill him and take his stuff.
When I first saw this I thought everyone was talking about Thomas Radecki, they guy that testified against dungeons and dragons.. Crazy thing was when he was doing all this as a professional
he was not a medical doctor yet.. he would not return till years later to get his doctorate. The other crazy thing it he is now in jail for over prescribing medications to patients and allowing them
to pay with sex.. Funny how time shows the truth about people; they are more disturbing than the games they are trying to band.. Try to understand something before attacking it..
Red Harvest wrote: ...And Forgive us Our Trespasses, as we Forgive those who Trespass against Us... Forgive him. It would drive him nuts. Hatemongers can't handle forgiveness. It's something they cannot understand. And it is the truly Christian thing to do. Nice Irony.
I suspect his afterlife may consist of wandering through steam tunnels while Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson take turns pursuing him in order to kill him and take his stuff.
Was thinking more on the lines of him walking up on the game in progress and Gary getting him to play, finally he rolls up a bloodthirsty chaos warrior and engages in all kinds of cardinal debauchery, finally looking over at the old grognard pantheon and asking- "Why didn't I get in on this sooner?"
At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money.