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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/26 12:03:26
Subject: Overwatch and rapid fire
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Irked Necron Immortal
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Hi guys, apologies if this has been asked before, but I've not managed to find a conclusive answer whilst searching.
My question, my unit moves in my turn and then gets charged the next turn.
I fire overwatch, but do I get rapid fire? ( BRB says resolve shooting normally, just as snapshots). In the turn I am being charged (in the case my opponents turn 3) I have not moved in turn 3 as I am yet to take my turn (he went first) but have moved in my previous turn 2.
Does this matter? How do you guys play this?
Cheers!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/26 12:08:28
Subject: Overwatch and rapid fire
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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You fire normally, and normally with Rapid Fire you fire twice at half range. So, yes, often-times Bolters get two shots when being charging. However, do note that for a very spread out squad, it's possible for some models to fire one shot at a charging unit while others closer to them fire two shots!
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Galef wrote:If you refuse to use rock, you will never beat scissors. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/26 12:47:46
Subject: Overwatch and rapid fire
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Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Yarium wrote:You fire normally, and normally with Rapid Fire you fire twice at half range. So, yes, often-times Bolters get two shots when being charging. However, do not that for a very spread out squad, it's possible for some models to fire one shot at a charging unit while others closer to them fire two shots!
Thats a thing? we have always played it as, if you are charging a unit, we just count them as point black range so you always get your rapid fire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 10567/05/22 12:59:51
Subject: Overwatch and rapid fire
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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Moving and Rapid-Fire is a 5th-edition thing. RF is not affected by moving any more.
I can't remember about the range difference though. I assume it is treat-as-point-blank, as mentioned. [Nope, range matters]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/26 13:04:11
Subject: Overwatch and rapid fire
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'll check when I get home, but I'm pretty confident that since it's a normal shooting attack, but with all shots being Snap Shots, that you still need to check range. While unlikely, it has come up in my games before! There was a time that an opponent of mine wanted to throw a Krak grenade at my charging unit, but my unit was 10 inches away, and so was out of range of the grenade. Also had the "spread out squad" effect on Rapid Fire occur too, but it was a ginormous Imperial Guard blob.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/26 13:16:40
Subject: Re:Overwatch and rapid fire
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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That's correct the only thing that doesn't need to check range for overwatch is template weapons. There's a specific line in the Wall of Death section that the charging unit doesn't need to be in range of the actual template.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/26 15:28:18
Subject: Overwatch and rapid fire
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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Backspacehacker wrote: Yarium wrote:You fire normally, and normally with Rapid Fire you fire twice at half range. So, yes, often-times Bolters get two shots when being charging. However, do not that for a very spread out squad, it's possible for some models to fire one shot at a charging unit while others closer to them fire two shots!
Thats a thing? we have always played it as, if you are charging a unit, we just count them as point black range so you always get your rapid fire.
Yes you still check ranges. Templates' Wall of Death rule is the only time you ignore range
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/26 15:38:35
Subject: Overwatch and rapid fire
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Not as Good as a Minion
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CrownAxe wrote: Backspacehacker wrote: Yarium wrote:You fire normally, and normally with Rapid Fire you fire twice at half range. So, yes, often-times Bolters get two shots when being charging. However, do not that for a very spread out squad, it's possible for some models to fire one shot at a charging unit while others closer to them fire two shots!
Thats a thing? we have always played it as, if you are charging a unit, we just count them as point black range so you always get your rapid fire.
Yes you still check ranges. Templates' Wall of Death rule is the only time you ignore range
Agreed. Overwatch doesn't tell us to ignore the range for Overwatch or remove the "Number of Shots" rules, so, your closest models to the Charger will invariably get to "double tap". There are a couple of exceptions like the Hot Shot Lasgun and a really gutsy Charge, but since most Rapid Fire Weapons can "double tap" at 12" or more, which is the maximum Charge Range, it explains itself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/26 15:54:42
Subject: Re:Overwatch and rapid fire
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Eversors (with 3d6 charge range) and Infiltrators/Ruststalkers (with +3" to charge range) laugh at your 12" rapid fire!
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And then promptly fail the ludicrously long charge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/26 16:21:05
Subject: Re:Overwatch and rapid fire
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Not as Good as a Minion
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JNAProductions wrote:Eversors (with 3d6 charge range) and Infiltrators/Ruststalkers (with +3" to charge range) laugh at your 12" rapid fire!
Krootox with Krootguns have a 24" double tap range and Shas with Pulse Rifles have a 15" double tap range.
As I said, exceptions do exist, on all sides of the fence.
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