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Space Wolves aren't viking themed guys, they're WOLF themed. Its why they're called Space WOLVES. I have the third edition Space Wolf codex right here, its pretty much the exact same when it comes to naming conventions. How much older do we have to go back to get the 'real' space wolves? 2nd edition? 1st?

Lets see what they added lately.
Good:
Fenrisian Wolves = they are literally wolves, so duh.
Thunderwolf Cavalry= cavalry that ride thunderwolves, obv
Wulfen= werewolves so a wolf name makes sense
Wolf claw= on the nose but its vikings naming a claw weapon after their favorite animal claw.

Bad:
Stormfang Gunship/Stormwolf= not awful, could be better.
Harald Deathwolf/Canis Wolfborn= dumb
Murderfang= dumb

in fact they removed: wolf pelt, wolf tail talisman, wolf totem, wolf tooth necklace.

If you ask me its not as bad as people make it out to be.

That super heavy table is a thing of beauty!

 Don Savik wrote:
Space Wolves aren't viking themed guys, they're WOLF themed. Its why they're called Space WOLVES. I have the third edition Space Wolf codex right here, its pretty much the exact same when it comes to naming conventions. How much older do we have to go back to get the 'real' space wolves? 2nd edition? 1st?

Lets see what they added lately.
Good:
Fenrisian Wolves = they are literally wolves, so duh.
Thunderwolf Cavalry= cavalry that ride thunderwolves, obv
Wulfen= werewolves so a wolf name makes sense
Wolf claw= on the nose but its vikings naming a claw weapon after their favorite animal claw.

Bad:
Stormfang Gunship/Stormwolf= not awful, could be better.
Harald Deathwolf/Canis Wolfborn= dumb
Murderfang= dumb

in fact they removed: wolf pelt, wolf tail talisman, wolf totem, wolf tooth necklace.

If you ask me its not as bad as people make it out to be.

You and I have very different opinions on the word "good" apparently.

Pet wolves makes sense, but riding wolves into combat is pretty dumb looking, and the wulfenite are worse from a lore standpoint. If any other chapter displayed such open mutation they would be declared mutants and purged.

But now they are, thanks to "epicness creep" and we have reminders that yes, these names were just chosen randomly. Leman Russ was originally an imperial guard commander (hence the tank) who was retconned into the SW primarch. Lion El Johnson is just Lionel Johnson (english poet whose most famous work was called "The Dark Angel.") etc, etc.

Even in Rogue Trader, Leman Russ was a Space Marine. The fluff back then was slightly different, and he was just some random dude who did well, then founded the Space Wolves, and they weren't a founding chapter, they were founded in M32, but his fluff is not completely changed.

 kronk wrote:
That super heavy table is a thing of beauty!

How is "Doomlord" not a thing yet?

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

You and I have very different opinions on the word "good" apparently.

Pet wolves makes sense, but riding wolves into combat is pretty dumb looking, and the wulfenite are worse from a lore standpoint. If any other chapter displayed such open mutation they would be declared mutants and purged.

Plenty of chapters are borderline heresy. And the inquisitional forces have tried to do something about it before in the past, but they keep failing as Space Wolves have the largest space fleet of all the space marines. So you're right in that sense.

As far as the thunderwolf cavalry go, I mean, yea it is kind of silly, but I like the models enough to let lore slide. I am an ork player first and foremost, so silly is my blood.

 Engine of War wrote:

When you start running out of space for new superheavy tanks, you can always go for tripples like Banedoomhammer or Fellhelllord.

Banelord was a chaos Beetleback titan for epic.
It had metal replacement bits for head, arm weapons, etc.

jade_angel wrote:
I have to admit that "Lion El'Jonson" was slightly clever, but I still groaned when I realized the connection.

Canis Wolfborn is pretty silly. Murderfang err, kinda murders the joke.

Ferrus Manus is a little doofy: a guy called "Iron Hand", primarch of the Iron Hands, whose hands are literally made of iron? Maybe that's laying it on a bit thick, belike.

The silly thing about Ferrus is he had that name before he killed that serpent and got hands made of iron. So his name was "iron Hands" and he just happened to fight a monster that ended up with his hands becoming Iron Hands, and then renamed his Legion to that as well (although at least that part has been changed to where only a handful of legions had actual names before they found their primarch, and it was on the Primarch to name them; the Iron Hands legion was unofficially called the "Storm Walkers" until Ferrus was found, which IMHO sounds a lot cooler )

 ChazSexington wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Inquisitor Obi-Wan Sherlock Cleuseau from Rogue Trader.

While the aforementioned classic is the worst, I think a lot of the new AoS Khorne and Stormcast Eternals are taking the naming conventions to a low possibly lower than the Space Wolves.

My biggest gripe is "Codexes." GW actually copyrighted a grammatical mistake. Close behind is using dice as the singular form. I have no idea what form of bastardised Anglo-Saxon English is taught in England, but in Scotland, that widnae float, and would result in having to do laps of Loch Lomond while reciting Rabbie Burns. I even doubt it would be okay in the colonies, infamous for aloominoom and other spellings specifically forbidden by the Geneva Convention.

Haha, it's not just me then! See also: using "automata" as a singular noun.

Bloodsecrator...

It's been said 1000 times but the Wolves take the cake for me. They have the whole Viking motif to work with and they just go with Wolfy Wolferson.

High King Logan Grimnar
Jarl Ragnar Blackmane
Thanes as lesser commanders
Huscarls instead of Wolfguard
etc
Replace lame Wolfborn surnames with Viking inspired epithets such as 'Ironside' 'Forkbeard' etc.

As a Guard player I don't know why we got something called a Valkyrie, seems like a much better name than fangwolf or whatever flier SW get now.

Blood Angels would be my second choice for awful naming conventions.
Lord Iron Hands of the Iron Hands legion is also really stupid.

 koooaei wrote:

 Engine of War wrote:

When you start running out of space for new superheavy tanks, you can always go for tripples like Banedoomhammer or Fellhelllord.

Could always just add new words.


God Hammer Tank sounds like something bigger than even the Baneblade line.

Titan Lord and so on. Just add "awesome" names and have fun gluing them together.

Anything orky, the broken english for ''comedic'' value doesn't work for me

 Engine of War wrote:

 koooaei wrote:

 Engine of War wrote:

When you start running out of space for new superheavy tanks, you can always go for tripples like Banedoomhammer or Fellhelllord.

Could always just add new words.


God Hammer Tank sounds like something bigger than even the Baneblade line.

Titan Lord and so on. Just add "awesome" names and have fun gluing them together.

Surprised we haven't seen a Swordblade or Swordhammer yet.

I feel someone should expand that chart to encompass all of the silly words in 40K...could be a real gem. Perhaps a Space Marine chapter one:

IRON, BLOOD, IMPERIAL, etc.

FISTS, HANDS, LEGION, etc.

Lots of potential for silliness.

 Ashiraya wrote:

 Engine of War wrote:

 koooaei wrote:

 Engine of War wrote:

When you start running out of space for new superheavy tanks, you can always go for tripples like Banedoomhammer or Fellhelllord.

Could always just add new words.


God Hammer Tank sounds like something bigger than even the Baneblade line.

Titan Lord and so on. Just add "awesome" names and have fun gluing them together.

Surprised we haven't seen a Swordblade or Swordhammer yet.

Give games Workshop time....

I believe at one point I went through the space wolf codex and tried to reach maximum "wolf".

What I came up with was a Wolf Lord On a Wolf with Fenrisian Wolves with a Wolf Claw and the Fangsword of the Deathwolf plus the Wulfenstone (this was before the 1 relic per ruling so I suppose it'd have to change now).

 Elbows wrote:
I feel someone should expand that chart to encompass all of the silly words in 40K...could be a real gem. Perhaps a Space Marine chapter one:

IRON, BLOOD, IMPERIAL, etc.

FISTS, HANDS, LEGION, etc.

Lots of potential for silliness.

Imperial Rainbow Shark Fists?

Slightly OT: But how cool would be if the Space Wolves had stuck to the Viking theme and incorporated a Valkyrie unit of some sort that resuscitated fallen heroes?

Or things like an Eye of Logan that could be used for scouting or anti-stealth purposes?

They had so much to work with...and they just went wolf wolf wolf wolf wolf WE ARE VIKING (not) WEREWOLF SPACE MUHREENS!!!

EoW I'm so using that grid for a game of hobby bingo!

 JamesY wrote:
EoW I'm so using that grid for a game of hobby bingo!

I would like to note I got it from here.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Baneblade_Homebrew


I INTEND TO CONSTRUCT SEVERAL OF THE MISSING BANEBLADES. FOR THE MACHINE GOD

Expecially the Doomsword. Giant Radiation Engine attached to a giant tank. THE ENEMY WILL GLOW WITH THE OMNISSIAH'S FURY AS WE DO (Giger counter going nuts)

 Engine of War wrote:


God Hammer

I believe this is also a weapon configuration for a land raider. The twin-linked lascannon sponson setup.

 Engine of War wrote:

 JamesY wrote:
EoW I'm so using that grid for a game of hobby bingo!

I would like to note I got it from here.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Baneblade_Homebrew


I INTEND TO CONSTRUCT SEVERAL OF THE MISSING BANEBLADES. FOR THE MACHINE GOD

Expecially the Doomsword. Giant Radiation Engine attached to a giant tank. THE ENEMY WILL GLOW WITH THE OMNISSIAH'S FURY AS WE DO (Giger counter going nuts)

I was going to say I liked ShadowHammer and suggest a missile system and then I read your post and find someone has already coined the chassis and made the conversion. Spooky.

Flame Boy wrote:

 Engine of War wrote:

 JamesY wrote:
EoW I'm so using that grid for a game of hobby bingo!

I would like to note I got it from here.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Baneblade_Homebrew


I INTEND TO CONSTRUCT SEVERAL OF THE MISSING BANEBLADES. FOR THE MACHINE GOD

Expecially the Doomsword. Giant Radiation Engine attached to a giant tank. THE ENEMY WILL GLOW WITH THE OMNISSIAH'S FURY AS WE DO (Giger counter going nuts)

I was going to say I liked ShadowHammer and suggest a missile system and then I read your post and find someone has already coined the chassis and made the conversion. Spooky.

Doomsword------520 points

BS 3, F 14, S 13, R 12, HP 9

Equipment:
One turret mounted Big Boy launcher with coaxial autocannon
One hull mounted Irradiation cannon
One hull mounted twin linked Heavy Bolter
Two sponson mounted twin linked Heavy Bolters
Two Sponson Mounted Lascannons
One Geiger Breaker

Options:
May exchange any of the twin linked Heavy Bolters for twin linked Heavy Flamers at no additional cost
May remove the sponsons to gain AV 14 on the sides
May add in another pair of Sponsons, each with a twin linked Heavy Bolter and a Lascannon for 50 points
May take any vehicle upgrade from the Imperial Guard codex
Any weapon on the Doomsword that does not already have the 'Rad Sickness' (see below) special rule may purchase it for +30 points per weapon.

Special Rules:

Big Boy Launcher; This massive weapon is somewhat a mix of a catapult, spigot mortar and missile launcher all in one. Mounted within the turret of the Doomsword this massive launcher fires huge shells containing active radioactive elements hurtling into the enemies ranks. R 48", S D/10, AP 1/2, Ordnance 1 Primary Weapon, 10" blast, Ignores Cover, Radsickness, Ground Zero.
>Ground Zero: The Big Boy has two profiles, one with S 'D' AP 1 and one with S 10 AP 2. When working out hits, any model within the central (5") blast of the 10" template is hit my the S 'D' profile. Other models are hit by the S 10 profile.

Irradiation Cannon; In the place of the standard Demolisher Cannon the Doomsword mounts the fearsome looking Irradiation Cannon. This weapon fires special shells filled with highly irradiated incendiary substances that can slay even the mightiest of beings. R36", S6, AP3, Ordnance 1, 5" blast, Ignores Cover, Rad Sickness, Deathly Glow.
>Deathly Glow: Any 'To Wound' roll of a '6' inflicts Instant Death. If a model with 'Eternal Warrior', or some other form of avoiding 'Instant Death' suffers this it will instead take D3+1 wounds.

Rad Sickness: Any enemy unit suffering one or more wounds from a weapon with this special rule loses one point of Toughness for the rest of the game. this effect is cumulative. If this effect reduces any model to Toughness '0' or less they are removed as a casualty regardless of the number of wounds they have left.

Geiger Breaker; This bulky attachment to the main drive emits concentrated radiation that bathes the area surrounding the tank and weakens the enemy of the Emperor. All enemy models within 12" of the Doomsword have -1 Toughness.

Words/names with "hell" in. All the bloodskull or wolf is ridiculous, but not entirely out of place in the Grimdark. The concept of hell would be forgotten by the year 40 000, considering the humanity wide replacement of our religions and the Wrap standing in. I feels like characters are using our language instead of theirs, which scratches the immersion.

There is probably some fluff I'm not thinking of but still.

 chromedog wrote:

 Engine of War wrote:


God Hammer

I believe this is also a weapon configuration for a land raider. The twin-linked lascannon sponson setup.

I want to see a warhound with a big ass hammer. Melee: D-Squared!

 kronk wrote:

 chromedog wrote:

 Engine of War wrote:


God Hammer

I believe this is also a weapon configuration for a land raider. The twin-linked lascannon sponson setup.

I want to see a warhound with a big ass hammer. Melee: D-Squared!

I would like that model

jade_angel wrote:I have to admit that "Lion El'Jonson" was slightly clever, but I still groaned when I realized the connection.

It gets worse the more connections you make for him


Anyhow, some other names I've disliked over the years:

Kayvan Shrike... well, a Shrike is a type of bird, and he's in a bird chapter

Sanguinius, the primarch of the blood angels, a chapter which also has the Sanguinor


Another doozy that's always good fun to dust off: Lord Kroak... who is a frog, who happens to be dead.

 kronk wrote:

 chromedog wrote:

 Engine of War wrote:


God Hammer

I believe this is also a weapon configuration for a land raider. The twin-linked lascannon sponson setup.

I want to see a warhound with a big ass hammer. Melee: D-Squared!

OT:
Giant Knight Titan hammer being built as we speak.



Back on topic.
Some Second founding and onwards space marine chapter names are kinda off. Like just silly off.