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That's not unusual, imo. It isn't uncommon to have all- or mostly-female roleplaying groups that have little interaction with male oriented gaming spaces, for example.

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What's up with that post?

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Just some typos, probably on the phone.

You don't have to be female to feel uncomfortable in a game store. IME game stores are generally uncomfortable places if you're not part of the gang, so to speak. The only time in my life I have wanted to be in a LGS longer than it took to make a purchase was when my close friends were running one. And even then it was about 100x better when the place was closed.

The women I know who hang out at the LGS tend to be "core members" of that scene or else the wives/girlfriends of core members.

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 Manchu wrote:
Just some typos, probably on the phone.


That was my initial thought to, but since it was reported, I wanted to be sure.

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 Manchu wrote:
Just some typos, probably on the phone.

You don't have to be female to feel uncomfortable in a game store. IME game stores are generally uncomfortable places if you're not part of the gang, so to speak. The only time in my life I have wanted to be in a LGS longer than it took to make a purchase was when my close friends were running one. And even then it was about 100x better when the place was closed.

The women I know who hang out at the LGS tend to be "core members" of that scene or else the wives/girlfriends of core members.

That is a pretty good point.

Walking in to a tight community of any sort can be a bit daunting at first, especially if people just look at you and don't greet you. That is where good personal skills come in, and you need to just say hi. If you can strike up a conversation with someone, and the community is welcoming, then you know it's good. I made a life long friend from one of these exchanges, we used to play all of the time.

It is a shame that GW hasn't tried to shift the appeal to be more gender neutral over the years.

I have tried too many times to get my wife in to 40k, just won't happen.

 
   
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My local one-man Warhammer shop is actually a one-woman Warhammer shop. Can't say I notice a great deal more women playing there than at the nearby LGSes - but this is probably the result of the Warhammer shop having practically no room for gaming plus the fact that there are a good amount of women at the LGSes because, I guess, that is an important social scene for those particular ladies. But I did talk to the woman who works at our Warhammer shop and she says she tries to be a role model to women who come in with their husbands and boyfriends and show some interest in the products (which is of course good sales[wo]manship).

It seems to me that women feel more comfortable painting than playing. If I was a member of some taskforce to increase female participation in miniatures gaming, this is the area I would want to investigate closely.

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 Dakka Wolf wrote:
eosgreen wrote:
my store is gross imo. the guys eat food from the food court like savages.

there was a GF of a worker who once i was telling a story while using profanity, said "OH gak DIDN'T SEE THE LITTLE KID THERE SORRY"

turns out it was his GF and shes just REALLY SMALL and young looking

thats basically it tho. harsh but most of the men are unattractive and i believe that is also why there are less women but im sure ill get flamed for that


Actually I'm more of the lynching type but since I've been told with no feelings spared what my group and myself look like to the opposite sex I'm going to have to concede that one.


Lol. I don't know about that. Gamers doooo tend to be overwight except some of the military guys. But I kind of doubt that women decide whether to play or not on whether I look good or not. I would be surprised if that was really a factor? The social awkwardness that gamers display is of course the bigger issue, nottheir looks. i suppose you could wrap that into attractiveness but its kind of talking about two things there I would say.


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 Melissia wrote:
That's not unusual, imo. It isn't uncommon to have all- or mostly-female roleplaying groups that have little interaction with male oriented gaming spaces, for example.


Our game shop has "girls night out" magic and i have also seen all female D&D groups. It is rare to be frank to see that but I have had a lot of girls in my groups over the years so when it comes to D&D there is clearly a much larger pool than in war gaming.

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 Rippy wrote:


I have tried too many times to get my wife in to 40k, just won't happen.


Me too...

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I've seen a few women at my local GW store painting, playing intro games, and buying stuff. They're usually there with somebody else but there are a few women interested in the hobby around here. My girlfriend also paints a little, but the game isn't for her. It's still largely a boys club unfortunately, but there's some diversity in the people who play.

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I took my girlfriend to a local gaming shop, because we're getting started together and I was going to buy us some supplies. Everyone was incredibly friendly. They let her watch their games and ask questions. The person operating the store was very nice and answered all her questions, people let us both look at their miniatures, and offered advice, and answered any questions we had.

It was an outstanding experience for both of us. We will be going back.

One guy did hit on her a little bit, but stopped once she informed him that we were together. No harm, no foul. But I could see how it would be difficult to be a girl in a gaming store by yourself, unless you liked the sexual attention. I don't mind if guys hit on her. I told her when we go back and play in tournies she can dress super hot for an advantage. I mean, that's tournament legal, right...?

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I swear the hitting on women in the gaming store is because some people see it as possibly their last chance to meet one.

My wife has good looking friends (she seems to like better/different looking friends around her for some reason...).
She decided to "drop in" while I was playing a game at the FLGS and had an entourage.
They were all dressed up for the evening.
It was like dropping a nuke in the store.
All guy brain function stopped and a few of the other gamers were desperately trying to remember my name to "ask" me something.
The girls were evil, actively flirting and doing some "catch and release" and asking about all the stuff.
I can see it being odd and possibly a bit much for a girl on her own but a few of them together is a whole different dynamic.
If you can get a regular gaming group of about 4 girls+ plus, I think there would be no issues... no more than what they are willing to create I mean.

My wife said "the girls" may do that again, they did not usually feel they had their pick of whomever they wanted when they walked into an establishment.
However meager us pasty colored folk may be to pick from.

None of them play 40k but hope springs eternal.
My wife and two of her other friends I got into painting a few models here and there.
I paint their nails in exchange.

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No, this is easily the whitest sausage party I've ever been apart of. I think I saw 5 women playing at Adepticon and all were with someone, and I don't blame them. Being an attractive woman amongst 40k players seems like hell on earth.
   
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Lol. Nah.

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Many years ago, when 3rd ed Blood Bowl got going, my wife(who was my girlfriend, at the time) would come by on league night.

She is rather well off up top, and she was very much put off over the looks she got.

Hey, we're guys! We like to look! But there is a line...

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 bound for glory wrote:
Many years ago, when 3rd ed Blood Bowl got going, my wife(who was my girlfriend, at the time) would come by on league night.
She is rather well off up top, and she was very much put off over the looks she got.
Hey, we're guys! We like to look! But there is a line...
Yeah, saw a girl/woman wear a low cut top to the FLGS who was rather impressive in filling it.
I am not sure who was more uncomfortable.
Saw many a guy trying so desperately to (continue/try) look up.
Seeing how much of a struggle it was made me feel some sympathy they were not complete dogs but still.
We try to think of the gaming space as an environment of higher reasoning.
Short of saltpeter in the water, it is difficult to keep a space asexual in nature.

I still shake my head when I think my wife did an MBA project on the business plan for an "Executive woman's adult store".
Some pretty scary psychology citing was done on what can put a lady's sensibilities at ease.
I have tried to convey some of the less exciting details of the work with the FLGS owner to make a welcome space for all genders.
Why does this all sound doomed?

I guess it is all a matter of trying to get the right engagement in a safe space with the right people.
Does our club get bonus points that we have two trans-genders play there regularly?
One guy and girl.
We are certainly not lacking in diversity in most things which is awesome.

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