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Final Draft FAQ & Errata for the rulebook is now up.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/40K_The_Rules_v1.2_Nov16.pdf

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Final Draft FAQ & Errata for the rulebook is now up.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/40K_The_Rules_v1.2_Nov16.pdf

Thanks for the heads up

The downloadable document finally has OCR! At least something I remember asking them to change went in!
Well, me and surely many other people. ^^

Now, to the reading part...

Yeah, that's a lot of pink.

Yikes... their comment on base sizes is shockingly Age-of-Sigmar-y. Eh... just base things on whatever feels appropriate? :-p

WOWOWOWOWOWWWOWW WAIT!

Q: If you fire an Ordnance weapon from a Stationary vehicle,
are all other shots Snap Shots? What about when moving? How
is this altered if the vehicle is a Heavy Tank (e.g. a Leman Russ
Demolisher with plasma cannon sponsons), or Fast, or a Flyer
(e.g. when firing hellstrike missiles, does firing the first missile
mean that the second is fired as a Snap Shot)?

A: A vehicle that fires an Ordnance weapon can only
make Snap Shots with its other weapons that turn
(whether Stationary or moving). A vehicle being Heavy
has no effect on firing Ordnance weapons. A Fast vehicle
that fires an Ordnance weapon can only make Snap
Shots with its other weapons that turn, but can fire a
single Ordnance weapon at its full Ballistic Skill even
at Cruising Speed. A Flyer firing two hellstrike missiles
in a turn fires both at the same time, as described in
the ‘Select a Weapon’ step of the Shooting phase. Both
missiles would be fired at the Flyer’s full Ballistic Skill –
all other weapons could only make Snap Shots that turn.

*sponsons still useless on BT and Demolisher'

No, it says the opposite.

However you can use your Tech Priest to give it Power of the Machine Spirit, and then fire your Ordnance that way.

 pretre wrote:
No, it says the opposite.

Damn English, that sentence was so easy to interpret wrong


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 Paintalist wrote:

 pretre wrote:
No, it says the opposite.

Damn English, that sentence was so easy to interpret wrong

yes i know, but i just interpret this sentence wrong. If you change the position of the words "heavy" and "ordnance", it will say what i actually thought

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Yikes... their comment on base sizes is shockingly Age-of-Sigmar-y. Eh... just base things on whatever feels appropriate? :-p

Isn't that the answer they always had?

Looks like they went back on the whole jinking transport makes the passangers snap shoot thing but they kept the 1 grenade in melee thing which is dumb *cue the take a number to melta bomb meme*.

Also reroll 1s does let you reroll gets hot for blast weapons.

You can't use beams, focused witchfires, or novas from transports? What you smoking GW?

I just love how they changed again the re-roll rule for Get's hot with preferred enemy

Q: Do plasma cannons and other Gets Hot Blast weapons benefit from rules that allow them to re-roll To Hit rolls of 1? For example, a Clan Raukaan character wearing the Tempered Helm nominates a unit of friendly Devastators to re-roll To Hit rolls of 1 in this Shooting phase. These Devastators are all equipped with plasma cannons. Do they get to re-roll the Gets Hot roll if it comes up as 1?

A: Yes.

FMC can be summoned either gliding or swooping. That's great for KDK bloodthirster summons. (or just winged princes)

Also, seems that the final ruling about gets hot, blasts and preferred enemy is that it DOES give a reroll.

You can wall of death invisible chargers.


Some are outright silly though.
"can a fortification scout? "
I should sig that one X D

Doesn't look like they took any feedback, it's still a bunch of vague non-answers and contradictory things.

Q: Are passengers in Jinking Transports forced to fire Snap Shots?
A: No.

No to which. needing to fire or having to Snap Shot?? This doesn't answer anything, although it's obvious it's one of those "Left up to interpretation" things that plague 40k.

Stupid work-block. Can't wait to get home to read this!

Wayniac wrote:
Doesn't look like they took any feedback, it's still a bunch of vague non-answers and contradictory things.

Q: Are passengers in Jinking Transports forced to fire Snap Shots?
A: No.

No to which. needing to fire or having to Snap Shot?? This doesn't answer anything.

No, the passengers are not forced to Snap fire
I.e: The passengers are NOT forced to fire Snap shots if the Transport is Jinking

All Dark Eldar players are rejoicing right now

 EnTyme wrote:
Stupid work-block. Can't wait to get home to read this!

Its posted at https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Rules-Errata as well.

Wayniac wrote:
Doesn't look like they took any feedback, it's still a bunch of vague non-answers and contradictory things.

Q: Are passengers in Jinking Transports forced to fire Snap Shots?
A: No.

No to which. needing to fire or having to Snap Shot?? This doesn't answer anything, although it's obvious it's one of those "Left up to interpretation" things that plague 40k.

This one is easy. If you Jink your transport, the people inside fires normally. Just like they did before the faq draft.

"Q: Does Warhammer 40,000: The Rules (7th edition)
override Codex: Stronghold Assault?
A: Yes. This is an exception to the normal rules, in which
expansions override the rulebook."

So I guess Aegis defense lines, VSGs and Landing Pads can't be used anymore? Or is Stronghold still valid, but the BRB takes precedent if a conflict arises?

The latter.

 BoomWolf wrote:
Some are outright silly though.
"can a fortification scout? "
I should sig that one X D

This has never been a silly question: Most fortifications are prefabricated military buildings set up for the war taking place.

So in effect, the question is "Can a prefabricated building be set up in a forward position ". Honestly, the common sense answer should be yes, in proper context, but obviously they decided to rule otherwise.

 Vankraken wrote:
What you smoking GW?

The same thing the LVO is since they helped them with this.

Well, the new book Planetary Assault has (I suppose) updated rules from Stronghold Assault, so it's a moot point.

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now this is weird:

Q: Can a Monstrous Creature charge multiple units?
A: No

So what, MCs cannot do disordered charges to lock more than 1 unit in melee?

Also, now MC ICs cannot join units/be joined at all.

 Vector Strike wrote:
Well, the new book Planetary Assault has (I suppose) updated rules from Stronghold Assault, so it's a moot point.

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now this is weird:

Q: Can a Monstrous Creature charge multiple units?
A: No

So what, MCs cannot do disordered charges to lock more than 1 unit in melee?

Also, now MC ICs cannot join units/be joined at all.

I think that MC IC change was part of the original FAQ, no?

Davor wrote:

 Vankraken wrote:
What you smoking GW?

The same thing the LVO is since they helped them with this.

Mistaken about the ITC help however, the point still stands; The rule the dude was asking about isn't addressed in the ITC FAQ at all because it's in the brb, this is just a clarification of the BRB wording.

ERJAK wrote:

Davor wrote:

 Vankraken wrote:
What you smoking GW?

The same thing the LVO is since they helped them with this.

Just making stuff up now. 1. There was no diirect collaboration between GW and the ITC and 2. The rule the dude was asking about isn't addressed in the ITC FAQ at all because it's in the brb, this is just a clarification of the BRB wording.

Dude read the blog post.

"We’d also like to thank the team at the Las Vegas Open tournament, who helped with some of the detail on this final draft."

I'm glad for this, Reece and them are doing their best to build this community.

Davor wrote:

 Vankraken wrote:
What you smoking GW?

The same thing the LVO is since they helped them with this.

Perhaps but it makes zero sense why you can't fire a focused witchfire or a beam out of a fireport. Its a shooting attack just like a flamer, blast weapon, or bolter.

Also based on the wording on the Errata portion it makes it sound like BS6 means you can reroll 1s for gets hot blast weapons. If that stands then its a huge boost to Ion Hammerheads.

Edit: Just want to say that 95% of this sounds solid its just a few nitpicks that caught my eye.

Requizen wrote:

 Vector Strike wrote:
Well, the new book Planetary Assault has (I suppose) updated rules from Stronghold Assault, so it's a moot point.

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now this is weird:

Q: Can a Monstrous Creature charge multiple units?
A: No

So what, MCs cannot do disordered charges to lock more than 1 unit in melee?

Also, now MC ICs cannot join units/be joined at all.

I think that MC IC change was part of the original FAQ, no?

It's almost impossible for a round base to come in contact with TWO separate units such as the shortest charge distance is EXACTLY equal. This has been a question during every edition, same problem still arises which is "math"

I'm confused on this one:

Q: How does a unit consisting of a mix of Cavalry, Bike, Jump Pack and Infantry models move, Run, Turbo-boost and charge? Do they all use their respective rules while maintaining squad coherency?

A: Yes. Models move individually, so in the Movement phase each model in this unit can move up to their maximum movement allowance so long as the unit is in unit coherency at the end of the move. If the unit elects to Run, no models in the unit may shoot. The unit doesn’t benefit from the Cavalry model’s Fleet rule, as that only applies if every model in the unit has the Fleet rule. If the unit Runs, the Bike may Turbo-boost, but must finish its move in unit coherency. When charging, the Jump model may use its jump pack (if it did not do so in the Movement phase) to re-roll the charge distance – however that model, and only that model, must use the new distance rolled.

So does that mean the Jump model uses a different Charge length as the rest of the unit?

I'd rather have that than letting the whole unit reroll because one dude is Jump.

Yeah, that's going to cause its' own problems, surely. Like, if jump pack man is not the closest model, and the closest model's roll is too low to make it, but jump pack man's roll is high enough, do you still charge even though the closest model can't engage? :/