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Hello guys i am planning on starting my first Space Marine army and i have a few questions.

*Do White Scars use dreadnoughts and devastator squads?

*How are the White Scars organized with them having no devastator squads and many speeders and bikes?

*How are they painted? when i google all pictures are diffrent. Some have red feet some have white feet, some have red shoulder edges and some have white?

*Are 1850 points standard?

I am UBER compedetive and want to destroy everyone i meet in battle so i wonder what the best list is. This is what i have gatherd to be the best so far.
How would you go about finnishing my list and what items on characters maybe hunters mark?
What second HQ?
Is this list bad?
My thinking is that 15 grav cannons will destroy enemy heavies and whirlwinds will decimate infantry.
Are the 15 grav cannons enough anti heavy?

Battle Company 1850 Points

Khan

Bike Command squad with grav cannons

Minimun tacticals and devastators in rhinos with hatches and grav cannons and assault squads in drop pods

Suppresion force with 3 whirlwinds and land speeder

My thinking is that 15 grav cannons will destroy enemy heavies and whirlwinds will decimate infantry.

Idea here is to run the libby's with the command squad and Khan and the Chappy. They cast Psychic Maelstrom when needed the command squad all have meltas and everyone will ignore cover with The Hunter's Eye. The libby's then all roll on Divination.

Hoping they can buff the squad with Forewarning, Prescience, Perfect timing. Also hoping to roll on Misfortune so that the Whirlwinds could dominate a target with Shred, Rending, Pinning & Ignore Cover


+++ Scars (Warhammer 40,000 7th Edition v2006) (1850pts) +++

++ SM WS Scarblade Strike Force (Space Marines: Codex v2006) ++

+ Core +

········Formation: Hunting Force
············Attack Bike Squad
················Attack Bike [Multi-Melta]
············Bike Squad [Biker, Biker]
················Biker (Special Weapon) [Grav-gun]
················Biker (Special Weapon) [Grav-gun]
················Biker Sergeant [Combi-Grav]
············Bike Squad [Biker, Biker]
················Biker (Special Weapon) [Grav-gun]
················Biker (Special Weapon) [Grav-gun]
················Biker Sergeant [Combi-Grav]
············Bike Squad [Biker, Biker]
················Biker (Special Weapon) [Grav-gun]
················Biker (Special Weapon) [Grav-gun]
················Biker Sergeant [Combi-Grav]
············Bike Squad [Biker, Biker]
················Biker (Special Weapon) [Grav-gun]
················Biker (Special Weapon) [Grav-gun]
················Biker Sergeant [Combi-Grav]
············Chaplain
················Chaplain Armour [Bolt Pistol, Chapter Relic (WS): The Glaive of Vengeance, Space Marine Bike]
············Command Squad [Chapter Relic (WS): The Banner of the Eagle, Space Marine Bike]
················Apothecary [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword]
················Veteran [Meltagun, Power Weapon (Sword)]
················Veteran [Meltagun, Power Weapon (Sword)]
················Veteran [Meltagun, Power Weapon (Sword)]
················Veteran [Meltagun, Power Weapon (Sword)]
············Kor'Sarro Khan [Chapter Relic: Moondrakkan]
············Scout Bike Squad [Scout Biker, Scout Biker]
················Scout Biker Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Space Marine Shotgun]

+ Command +

········Formation: Librarius Conclave
············Librarian [Psyker Level 2]
················Librarius Armour [Bolt Pistol, Force Axe, Space Marine Bike]
············Librarian [Psyker Level 2]
················Librarius Armour [Bolt Pistol, Chapter Relic (WS): The Hunter's Eye, Force Axe, Space Marine Bike]
············Librarian [Psyker Level 2]
················Librarius Armour [Bolt Pistol, Chapter Relic (WS): Mantle of the Stormseer, Force Axe, Space Marine Bike]

+ Auxiliary +

········Formation: Suppression Force
············Land Speeders
················Land Speeder [Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter]
············Whirlwinds [Whirlwind, Whirlwind, Whirlwind]

+ No Force Org Slot +

········Chapter Tactics [White Scars]

········Psychic Powers [Discipline: Divination]

Answers in red.

BeastMaster64 wrote:
Hello guys i am planning on starting my first Space Marine army and i have a few questions.

*Do White Scars use dreadnoughts and devastator squads? Yes to Devastators, no to Dreadnoughts. They find interment within a Dreadnought sarcophagi to be abhorrent, as they believe it confines their warrior spirit

*How are the White Scars organised with them having no devastator squads and many speeders and bikes? White Scars use bikes/speeders/aircraft A LOT. They don't have many devastator squads, as it goes against their method of warfare. Though feel free to have a few guys on foot in Rhino/Land Raider transports as an all bikes force limits your firepower on the tabletop a bit.

*How are they painted? when i google all pictures are different. Some have red feet some have white feet, some have red shoulder edges and some have white?

White Scars painting:


Wiki to explain their markings: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/White_Scars

BeastMaster64 wrote:
*Do White Scars use dreadnoughts and devastator squads?

Yes and yes. Albeit lot less dreadnoughts and devastators would be in transports,.

*How are the White Scars organized with them having no devastator squads and many speeders and bikes?

They have devastators. They are still CODEX adherent chapter with standard companies. This means companies 2-5 are 6 tacticals, 2 devastators, 2 assault squads. See? Already 8 squads of devastators. Along with entire company of devastators(was it 8th or 9th).

*How are they painted? when i google all pictures are diffrent. Some have red feet some have white feet, some have red shoulder edges and some have white?

Maybe you see some count-as white scar armies?

But tip: Don't go overboard with white. Have instead very pale grey like ulthuan grey as main colour with pure white as edge highlights. When I got that my white went LOT better.

How long have you been playing 40k? Because if it hasn't been long, you might want to get some experience under your belt before you try crumping everybody.

Also, get a feel for your local meta. Are they hyper-competitive too? If so, great! Prepare to get butt-smashed a few times while you learn, even with a great list. If not... Don't be that guy. Don't be the guy who brings super hard lists against soft ones. That's not fun-it's just mean, and no one will want to play you.

I have never played before