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Again ... they will not make a Lion model with such a cloak ... he is not like Cypher but a Primarch and his cloak will be as new as RG's armor ...

I don't think the Lion wore a Lion cloak. Sanguinius did. Don't think this is a Primarch at all. Looks more AOS to me.

Maybe something freepeople related... Or even something undead maybe. Like an undead king, or something something White Lions. Korhil, or did he die to?

The rumour a while back of the little slug with legs is in the big artwork panel in the new rulebook. Looks o be a big beast of nurgle.

 nicromancer wrote:
The rumour a while back of the little slug with legs is in the big artwork panel in the new rulebook. Looks o be a big beast of nurgle.

Source? Can you link the image in question?

 The Grumpy Eldar wrote:
I don't think the Lion wore a Lion cloak. Sanguinius did. Don't think this is a Primarch at all. Looks more AOS to me.

Maybe something freepeople related... Or even something undead maybe. Like an undead king, or something something White Lions. Korhil, or did he die to?

Spoiler:

Korhil was executed after trying to steal the Widowmaker away from Tyrion's reach.

Lord Kragan wrote:

 nicromancer wrote:
The rumour a while back of the little slug with legs is in the big artwork panel in the new rulebook. Looks o be a big beast of nurgle.

Source? Can you link the image in question?

down left.

GW ultralisks!

 Crazyterran wrote:
GW ultralisks!

Oh god, Guilliman's using them!?

Surely they wouldn't pop another loyalist Primarch this early in the Dark Imperium story? Especially with Mortarion on the way.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 MajorTom11 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
They're feathers not fur from the looks of it. It looks fairly close to the Dark Riders' cloaks.

Completely disagree there, that is def fur... goes off in way to many directions and is way to curvy to be feathers, which are generally more even and uniform at that size... GW has a very established feather style at this point, and that ain't it imo.

View the 360.

I just got done rebasing mine for an upcoming Skirmish league, so I might be tainted from that perspective but yes. They do have feathers in that style.

And before you try to claim that it's meant to be fur, Dark Riders haven't had their fluff changed too drastically from the Warhammer incarnation. Their cloaks have a mantle of raven feathers.

Gotta disagree, even on those models, looks like simple brown fur collars to me. Ymmv, I see fur in both cases though.

krazynadechukr wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
They're feathers not fur from the looks of it. It looks fairly close to the Dark Riders' cloaks.

You are just seeing the thumb prints in this. It is not feathers. It's the Lions cape. RG is reestablishing the first founding chapters and starting with DAs. Lion has been awoken on the Rock. THe lion head fur & cape fur match, and the tears on fur cape match the all cape no fur tattered cape...

I got to say, that image of your actually makes me think it's less likely to be related to the Lion head at this point, if only because the fur doesn't match style-wise (the fur around the head is very fine, while the fur on the cape is matted).

So am I thinking: what IF these all belong to a single "faction" but different "sub-faction". What if we are going to see a release a la Disciples of Tzeentch.

 The Grumpy Eldar wrote:
I don't think the Lion wore a Lion cloak. Sanguinius did.

Spoiler:

Feeble argument. There weren't any Primaris marines, until GW made them. There wasn't a RG, until GW made him. There wasn't... Besides, Sangy is dead & he wore a leopard, not a lion, cape. There is a difference, one has a mane (lion) and one does not (leopard). It is either the elf or Johnson. That's it. I think folks are forgetting the January 2017 rumor that someone saw a box at GW HQ that had "lion El' Johns" on it (that's all they read) and he saw the leg and base on the box. The armor was black and it was a dread base. It was buried in a pile, and flattened (an unfolded prototype box most likely). I'll try to find that old rumor.

krazynadechukr wrote:

 The Grumpy Eldar wrote:
I don't think the Lion wore a Lion cloak. Sanguinius did.

Spoiler:

Feeble argument. There weren't any Primaris marines, until GW made them. There wasn't a RG, until GW made him. There wasn't... Besides, Sangy is dead & he wore a leopard, not a lion, cape. There is a difference, one has a mane (lion) and one does not (leopard). It is either the elf or Johnson. That's it. I think folks are forgetting the January 2017 rumor that someone saw a box at GW HQ that had "lion El' Johns" on it (that's all they read) and he saw the leg and base on the box. The armor was black and it was a dread base. It was buried in a pile, and flattened (an unfolded prototype box most likely). I'll try to find that old rumor.

Forge World had a Roboute Guilliman first.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

krazynadechukr wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
They're feathers not fur from the looks of it. It looks fairly close to the Dark Riders' cloaks.

You are just seeing the thumb prints in this. It is not feathers. It's the Lions cape. RG is reestablishing the first founding chapters and starting with DAs. Lion has been awoken on the Rock. THe lion head fur & cape fur match, and the tears on fur cape match the all cape no fur tattered cape...

I got to say, that image of your actually makes me think it's less likely to be related to the Lion head at this point, if only because the fur doesn't match style-wise (the fur around the head is very fine, while the fur on the cape is matted).

I pourly resized these pics and in doing so messed it up. Look for original rumor pics and compare.


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 Kanluwen wrote:

krazynadechukr wrote:

 The Grumpy Eldar wrote:
I don't think the Lion wore a Lion cloak. Sanguinius did.

Spoiler:

Feeble argument. There weren't any Primaris marines, until GW made them. There wasn't a RG, until GW made him. There wasn't... Besides, Sangy is dead & he wore a leopard, not a lion, cape. There is a difference, one has a mane (lion) and one does not (leopard). It is either the elf or Johnson. That's it. I think folks are forgetting the January 2017 rumor that someone saw a box at GW HQ that had "lion El' Johns" on it (that's all they read) and he saw the leg and base on the box. The armor was black and it was a dread base. It was buried in a pile, and flattened (an unfolded prototype box most likely). I'll try to find that old rumor.

Forge World had a Roboute Guilliman first.

Talking about GW product line specifically. My point being GW is making new models, and getting nicely elaborate and detailed. "The lion didn't wear a lion cloak." Doesn't hold water. There will be a new miniature coming out, and GW doesn't and won't hold onto the old idea "the lion doesn't have a lion cloak" but instead take this golden op to make a lion cloak on the Primarch known as The Lion.

It's not the Lion.

To me the lion face seems too... simple to be something as a Primarch. I assume that, being a Primarch it will be a big model, so I don't see it having a so simple lion face in his cape.

 MajorTom11 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
They're feathers not fur from the looks of it. It looks fairly close to the Dark Riders' cloaks.

Completely disagree there, that is def fur... goes off in way to many directions and is way to curvy to be feathers, which are generally more even and uniform at that size... GW has a very established feather style at this point, and that ain't it imo.

Plus it's clearly procreate

Sorry I couldn't resist...

 Red Corsair wrote:

 MajorTom11 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
They're feathers not fur from the looks of it. It looks fairly close to the Dark Riders' cloaks.

Completely disagree there, that is def fur... goes off in way to many directions and is way to curvy to be feathers, which are generally more even and uniform at that size... GW has a very established feather style at this point, and that ain't it imo.

Plus it's clearly procreate

Sorry I couldn't resist...

Meh, I gotta man up and take my medicine on that one lol, I was obviously dead wrong!

 Azreal13 wrote:
It's not the Lion.

Whew. Glad that debate is over. Oh, forgot to ask - source?

It just isn't.

To the best of my recollection I've not called a rumour wrong in years, and this is so totally "on the nose" as to have me baffled how anyone could think it.

You seriously think that a site which has hitherto leaked images that have seldom made sense until after the model image has been shown in its entirety would preview a hugely significant release like another Primarch by leaking an image of an actual lion?

Gimme a break.

 Azreal13 wrote:
It just isn't.

To the best of my recollection I've not called a rumour wrong in years, and this is so totally "on the nose" as to have me baffled how anyone could think it.

You seriously think that a site which has hitherto leaked images that have seldom made sense until after the model image has been shown in its entirety would preview a hugely significant release like another Primarch by leaking an image of an actual lion?

Gimme a break.

Maybe thats why they are doing it this time! They are playing with us!

Your point is very valid too, if that lion is supposedly scaled to Primarch size, and a significant focal point of the mini as the shoulder pad, it's a really gak sculpt and shouldn't really be cause for any excitement.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Your point is very valid too, if that lion is supposedly scaled to Primarch size, and a significant focal point of the mini as the shoulder pad, it's a really gak sculpt and shouldn't really be cause for any excitement.

He shrunk a size or two, m'kay?

 Azreal13 wrote:
Your point is very valid too, if that lion is supposedly scaled to Primarch size, and a significant focal point of the mini as the shoulder pad, it's a really gak sculpt and shouldn't really be cause for any excitement.

I have been thinking the same thing. It just doesn't look like the quality we would see on a Primarch.

Maybe its a white lion (is that still an elf thing?) resculpt?
Going by the timing (the release of 8th ed) its probable that they deliberatly shown something with a lion on it to try to get us to think its a Primarch, when in reality its nothing to do with 40k.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Maybe its a white lion (is that still an elf thing?) resculpt?
Going by the timing (the release of 8th ed) its probable that they deliberatly shown something with a lion on it to try to get us to think its a Primarch, when in reality its nothing to do with 40k.

Considering AoS is a different setting I don't think they'd revamp or redo white lions. Every time they introduce or redo a faction they seem to take things in a new and wildly different stylized direction with new models. When we do get a new Elf faction for AoS i'm not expecting them to be too much like the old high elves/dark elves etc of the old world. This thing could also be for shadespire, as i'm sure there are more teams planned besides deathrattle/khorne/stormcast.

But honestly two rumor engines in a row of a bland cloak isn't really getting my imagination firing up.

As far as I'm aware, and going by Hasting's word, there are two rumour engine pics (as of late may) that belong to diferent shadespire teams.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Maybe its a white lion (is that still an elf thing?) resculpt?
Going by the timing (the release of 8th ed) its probable that they deliberatly shown something with a lion on it to try to get us to think its a Primarch, when in reality its nothing to do with 40k.

The White Lions are now part of the "Lion Rangers" faction for Order. The models for both them and the chariots are pretty solid, so I wouldn't think it would be for a resculpt.

It might be a hero added in though. They currently lack one.

 Thargrim wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Maybe its a white lion (is that still an elf thing?) resculpt?
Going by the timing (the release of 8th ed) its probable that they deliberatly shown something with a lion on it to try to get us to think its a Primarch, when in reality its nothing to do with 40k.

Considering AoS is a different setting I don't think they'd revamp or redo white lions. Every time they introduce or redo a faction they seem to take things in a new and wildly different stylized direction with new models. When we do get a new Elf faction for AoS i'm not expecting them to be too much like the old high elves/dark elves etc of the old world. This thing could also be for shadespire, as i'm sure there are more teams planned besides deathrattle/khorne/stormcast.

But honestly two rumor engines in a row of a bland cloak isn't really getting my imagination firing up.

Other than Kharadron, all AoS faction have included at least some of a WFB faction. Sylvaneth is basically the tree spirits from the Wood Elves plus Kurnoth Hunters and the Branchwych. Disciples of Tzeentch included the old Tzeentch Sorcerer Lord and a couple named Chaos Lords. Ironjaws includes the old Black Orcs. It's likely the new Aelf factions (I'm betting we'll end up with at least two) will incorporate at least some of the old High Elf and Dark Elf armies.