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2017/08/03 16:03:48
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
This is the thumbnail image on the article, it doesn't appear in the video and I don't know if it appears any where else. Given it's name I doubt it does
It's odd that doesn't look much like a human skull. I get a definite ork vibe looking at it.
Sure, it could just be how it turned out, but you could've left the aquila recognizable and given the skill a more human shape. No need for a single extended talon on each foot, to give the appearance of tusks for example. Tweaked the ratios so the forehead isn't so broad relative to the jaw.
It's clearly not intended to be a human skull to me. Might be demon or ork or whatever, but they could've given a much better impression of a human skull while leaving the eagles obvious if they'd wanted to.
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2017/08/03 16:29:18
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
Aren't we supposed to see "something new" this year faction wise? Could this be it? What if it's a faction for something on the blocked off side of the Imperium?
My second guess would be Necromunda even if I hope it would be something for guard (3rd pick).
As far as we know the insignia appears to be new.
You know... I'm also getting a rogue trader vibe.
2017/08/03 16:37:12
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
B50-AP/78903//M/h
B? 50? AP (accept preorder?) 7 (July) 8 (Aug) 9 (Sep) 0 (Oct) 3 (the 3rd?) / / M (minute ?) / h (hour ?) Some sort of preorder October 3rd?
krazynadechukr wrote: B50-AP/78903//M/h
B? 50? AP (accept preorder?) 7 (July) 8 (Aug) 9 (Sep) 0 (Oct) 3 (the 3rd?) / / M (minute ?) / h (hour ?) Some sort of preorder October 3rd?
Necromunda?
OH WAIT! What if it's Adeptus Titanicus?
That is some mighty fine conclusion-jumping-to :-D Impressed by your creativity!
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2017/08/03 16:47:03
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
krazynadechukr wrote: B50-AP/78903//M/h
B? 50? AP (accept preorder?) 7 (July) 8 (Aug) 9 (Sep) 0 (Oct) 3 (the 3rd?) / / M (minute ?) / h (hour ?) Some sort of preorder October 3rd?
Necromunda?
OH WAIT! What if it's Adeptus Titanicus?
That is some mighty fine conclusion-jumping-to :-D Impressed by your creativity!
Hm, well GW is presenting a new game in the Nova Open event on August 30th. Then the Necromunda will be in the September WD....coincidence?
Nultaar wrote: This is the thumbnail image on the article, it doesn't appear in the video and I don't know if it appears any where else. Given it's name I doubt it does
anybody here saw today's Warhammer TV video till the end? There was Tony Cottrell (FW) with a box full of new and incoming stuff... he basically said Daemon Fulgrim is coming, FW is producing a new line of WH40K characters (with blue boxes instead of the black HH ones)... I missed the last part but he was wearing a badge with the symbol of this video and he was about to show something "previously unseen"...
2017/08/03 17:16:45
Subject: Re:Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
Gamgee wrote: Aren't we supposed to see "something new" this year faction wise? Could this be it? What if it's a faction for something on the blocked off side of the Imperium?
My second guess would be Necromunda even if I hope it would be something for guard (3rd pick).
... So.... Does anyone else remember the Armageddon Ork hunters? That'd be one and three on your list.
2017/08/03 17:18:56
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
Okay, what about this screams necromunda to people? It's a skull but everything imperium has them. It could be a manhole but... that's again barely even indicative of necromunda and kinda a reach.
2017/08/03 17:36:01
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
Gamgee wrote: Aren't we supposed to see "something new" this year faction wise? Could this be it? What if it's a faction for something on the blocked off side of the Imperium?
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...no? They're cramming in 7 more books before the end of the year (already counting Vaniilla, shiny and Spikey). Where would they possibly fit a new faction, even if more come half heartedly with no models?
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2017/08/03 17:41:18
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
SilverAlien wrote: Okay, what about this screams necromunda to people? It's a skull but everything imperium has them. It could be a manhole but... that's again barely even indicative of necromunda and kinda a reach.
new game being shown aug 30, necromunda in September wd, Jerichos laspistol bit teased, new release by specialist rumored in October, manhole cover, traffic Noise in video, train noise in background like a local transit, necromunda "underhive wars" rumored to be the full name....
Means little without a screen grab, but I did see this video shared on FB by either Warhammer TV or a GW store, and the caption mentioned how well Shadow War had sold....
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Based on the vague rumours of a Necromunda re-boot this could easily be a new boxed game of that. However, different from the old game.
-Base it around a generic multi-part plastic gang kits (appeals to everyone and old school Necro players) vs. Adeptus Arbites (possibly the logo in that teaser)
-Stuff it with SWA terrain so that everyone can buy in - even those who missed Shadow War: Armageddon...heal some of that community damage
-Keeping it with generic gangers and arbites GW doesn't need to support it with a half dozen gangs or expansions, it can be just the basic game.
-Add in a bit more crunch than SWA.
-Throw in rules for gangers and arbites for use in your Imperium faction 40K armies.
-Gangers can also be used as Chaos Cultists etc.
-You get new players, terrain junkies, 40K nuts, old grognards and the Necromunda devotees all in one box. Price it like SWA...sell 50K units.
-New necromunda generates more interest for the PC reboot that's being done by the guys who did the Mordheim game.
It does seem pretty damn smart if they do this.
I'm fairly certain that quite a lot of old school Necro players would not even be slightly happy with that.
What you're describing isn't Necromunda, it's a Shadow War starter box with its own factions. Necromunda isn't just a game system, it's a setting, if you strip out all the things that make up that setting like the gangs, it isn't Necromunda any more.
Further, what was the point of resurrecting Specialist Games as a brand if they're not going to relaunch the actual Specialist Games? That would be like if they had brough back "Blood Bowl", but instead of actually bringing it back properly as they have done, they'd released a self-contained box set with an "Order" team(humans, elves, dwarfs, lizardmen) vs "Destruction" team(chaos warriors, orcs, goblins, dark elves). Now, considering Blood Bowl has apparently been wildly successful, to the point it even took GW by surprise, I'd say that pushing out a half arsed semi-reboot wearing the crudely hacked off brand-skin of Necromunda like a cape for a quick sales splash before it slides off into obscurity, rather than cashing in on the obvious nostalgia and proven appeal of the brand to release box after box of models at likely hideous prices keeping the money flowing in for months or even years, wouldn't be all that smart.
EDIT: For clarity and the benefit of the Positivity Police - your idea when considered in isolation is not bad, and if provided as a DW:OK-style self contained box game intro for Arbites into 40K, or as a Shadow War starter box, it's a product I'd be very happy with and would likely buy. It's not a product I would be happy buying in the context of a Necromunda replacement, or in the context of its existence being at the expense of a proper Necromunda re-release, is all.
As to the video; it's a cool eagle skull(skull eagle? skeagle?) logo, and the "industrial" tone could well suggest a hive world - I certainly wouldn't object to it being the new branding for Necromunda - but this doesn't even rise to the level of "teaser trailer", it could be almost anything; Necromunda, a SW:A expansion, a new 40K faction, hell it could be part of the cover art of a novel about a unit of Primaris Reivers battling [enemy of the Imperium] on [previously-mentioned hive world]
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2017/08/03 18:41:30
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
Yeah, "generic gangers that could also be chaos cultists fighting over mechanicus terrain" would not be necromunda. I don't think anybody would be too excited for that really
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2017/08/03 18:46:34
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
Bull0 wrote: Yeah, "generic gangers that could also be chaos cultists fighting over mechanicus terrain" would not be necromunda. I don't think anybody would be too excited for that really
I think there would be plenty of excitement, perhaps just not from people my age who grew with Necromunda (although depending on what the contents look like I'm persuadable even if the game itself isn't to my taste)
2017/08/03 19:06:07
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint
I think it's either Legion of the Damned or World Eaters.. though now that I think about it.. the Aquila with the World Eater's doesn't make much sense..
Based on the vague rumours of a Necromunda re-boot this could easily be a new boxed game of that. However, different from the old game.
-Base it around a generic multi-part plastic gang kits (appeals to everyone and old school Necro players) vs. Adeptus Arbites (possibly the logo in that teaser)
-Stuff it with SWA terrain so that everyone can buy in - even those who missed Shadow War: Armageddon...heal some of that community damage
-Keeping it with generic gangers and arbites GW doesn't need to support it with a half dozen gangs or expansions, it can be just the basic game.
-Add in a bit more crunch than SWA.
-Throw in rules for gangers and arbites for use in your Imperium faction 40K armies.
-Gangers can also be used as Chaos Cultists etc.
-You get new players, terrain junkies, 40K nuts, old grognards and the Necromunda devotees all in one box. Price it like SWA...sell 50K units.
-New necromunda generates more interest for the PC reboot that's being done by the guys who did the Mordheim game.
It does seem pretty damn smart if they do this.
I'm fairly certain that quite a lot of old school Necro players would not even be slightly happy with that.
What you're describing isn't Necromunda, it's a Shadow War starter box with its own factions. Necromunda isn't just a game system, it's a setting, if you strip out all the things that make up that setting like the gangs, it isn't Necromunda any more.
Further, what was the point of resurrecting Specialist Games as a brand if they're not going to relaunch the actual Specialist Games? That would be like if they had brough back "Blood Bowl", but instead of actually bringing it back properly as they have done, they'd released a self-contained box set with an "Order" team(humans, elves, dwarfs, lizardmen) vs "Destruction" team(chaos warriors, orcs, goblins, dark elves). Now, considering Blood Bowl has apparently been wildly successful, to the point it even took GW by surprise, I'd say that pushing out a half arsed semi-reboot wearing the crudely hacked off brand-skin of Necromunda like a cape for a quick sales splash before it slides off into obscurity, rather than cashing in on the obvious nostalgia and proven appeal of the brand to release box after box of models at likely hideous prices keeping the money flowing in for months or even years, wouldn't be all that smart.
EDIT: For clarity and the benefit of the Positivity Police - your idea when considered in isolation is not bad, and if provided as a DW:OK-style self contained box game intro for Arbites into 40K, or as a Shadow War starter box, it's a product I'd be very happy with and would likely buy. It's not a product I would be happy buying in the context of a Necromunda replacement, or in the context of its existence being at the expense of a proper Necromunda re-release, is all.
As to the video; it's a cool eagle skull(skull eagle? skeagle?) logo, and the "industrial" tone could well suggest a hive world - I certainly wouldn't object to it being the new branding for Necromunda - but this doesn't even rise to the level of "teaser trailer", it could be almost anything; Necromunda, a SW:A expansion, a new 40K faction, hell it could be part of the cover art of a novel about a unit of Primaris Reivers battling [enemy of the Imperium] on [previously-mentioned hive world]
Oh I didn't mean that old school Necromunda players would want the game, just the models. I 100% believe there is no way in hell we're getting a proper Necromunda replacement which revolves around numerous aesthetically different gangs. When metal disappeared, the ability to do small run forces went out the window. There is not a chance in hell that GW will produce a full line of plastics to support a specialist game like Necromunda.
I firmly believe that if Necromunda comes back at all, it'll be a totally different game. I don't think any Necromunda fans really have a genuine expectation of a proper replacement coming out. That's a kind of pipe dream. So the second best thing? Some new models and terrain. I just expect from a business perspective that the above idea is the best/easiest option to appease (in some small part) a large portion of their fan base. Just doing a terrain box again at a discount would sell 10's of thousands of copies.
You know what, there's a chance we could just get Shadow War: Necromunda and have two new factions: gangers and arbites...and they could simply be tossed in with the current SWA rules and army lists, etc. Who knows.
2017/08/03 19:13:45
Subject: Warhammer Community Rumor Engine Thread - page 52 latest hint