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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 18:15:35
Subject: [3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Been Around the Block
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With this imperial guard list, you will never lose a single match no matter what.
HQ
Command squad with meltagun
- 70 points
Troops
Veterans squad
- 60 points
Veterans squad
- 60 points
Veterans squad
- 60 points
Lord of War
Warlord Battle Titan with arm-mounted Belicosa volcano cannon, arm mounted macro gattling blaster, and two carapace mounted vulcan mega bolters
- 2750
Total 3000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 18:26:07
Subject: Re:[3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Skyhammer Annihilation Force-730
245-5 Devs with 4 Grav Cannons, Drop Pod
245-5 Devs with 4 Grav Cannons, Drop Pod
120-5 Assault Marines, Jump Packs, Eviscerator on a Veteran Sergeant
120-5 Assault Marines, Jump Packs, Eviscerator on a Veteran Sergeant
Skyhammer Annihilation Force-730
245-5 Devs with 4 Grav Cannons, Drop Pod
245-5 Devs with 4 Grav Cannons, Drop Pod
120-5 Assault Marines, Jump Packs, Eviscerator on a Veteran Sergeant
120-5 Assault Marines, Jump Packs, Eviscerator on a Veteran Sergeant
Skyhammer Annihilation Force-730
245-5 Devs with 4 Grav Cannons, Drop Pod
245-5 Devs with 4 Grav Cannons, Drop Pod
120-5 Assault Marines, Jump Packs, Eviscerator on a Veteran Sergeant
120-5 Assault Marines, Jump Packs, Eviscerator on a Veteran Sergeant
Skyhammer Annihilation Force-730
245-5 Devs with 4 Grav Cannons, Drop Pod
245-5 Devs with 4 Grav Cannons, Drop Pod
120-5 Assault Marines, Jump Packs, Eviscerator on a Veteran Sergeant
120-5 Assault Marines, Jump Packs, Eviscerator on a Veteran Sergeant
That's 40 BS5 Grav Shots, and 120 BS4.
113.33 Hits.
34.63 HP. 28.63 after Void Shields, 19.09 after Invuln save.
Then all 8 squads of Assault Marines charge in (but let's assume 3 die to mishaps or are in ongoing reserves or something). That's 15 S8 Armourbane attacks, hitting on 6s, for 2.5 hits. 41.67% chance of a Pen, 16.66% chance of a Glance. Each Pen does, on average, 1.33 HP. So that's an extra 1.81 HP, and your Titan is down to under 10 HP.
How many squads can it kill? Because it's hurting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 18:30:40
Subject: [3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Been Around the Block
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Oh, nevermind then. Worth a shot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 18:32:06
Subject: [3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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The game isn't THAT broken, that nothing has a counter.
Of course, I went with Codecs I own. Think about what 93 Wraithguard with the D would do to him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 18:33:16
Subject: [3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Been Around the Block
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Thats if they manage to get into range with him. Automatically Appended Next Post: He is managing to dish out 30 twin linked strength 6, ap3 shots.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 18:35:56
Subject: [3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Adime wrote:Thats if they manage to get into range with him.
How much is a Webway Portal? Call it 80 points, because I legitimately have no idea.
Now you have no-scatter Deep Strike for a 10-man Squad of DGuard, for a total price of 400 points. That's 70 D-shots.
That's 46.67 hits. Any D hit destroys a Void Shield, so it's 40.67 after the Shields. Then that's 6.78 6s on the D table, for an average of 64.39 HP.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 18:38:20
Subject: [3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Been Around the Block
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True. Good point. Guess I was wrong about the warlord cheese.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 18:40:52
Subject: [3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Adime wrote:True. Good point. Guess I was wrong about the warlord cheese.
Eggs, basket, too many of one, not enough of another.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 18:53:32
Subject: [3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Been Around the Block
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You think a warlord titan would be good for a massive apocalypse game? I have one coming up soon. If you put 2 carapace mounted laser destructors (3 D shots each) and the 2 Belicosa volcano cannons, I feel like it could be pretty effective against other titans.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 18:54:21
Subject: [3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Adime wrote:You think a warlord titan would be good for a massive apocalypse game? I have one coming up soon. If you put 2 carapace mounted laser destructors (3 D shots each) and the 2 Belicosa volcano cannons, I feel like it could be pretty effective against other titans.
Watch out for... Shadowswords, I think. They roll 3d6b1 on the D table. But for an Apoc game, definitely bring it! Just not any other kind of game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 18:55:15
Subject: [3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Been Around the Block
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Not worth the points otherwise I'm assuming. Also, whats 3d6b1?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 18:55:57
Subject: Re:[3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Roll 3d6, take the best 1.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 18:57:24
Subject: [3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Been Around the Block
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I thought they only had the volcano cannon (one 5'' strength D shot)? Either way, shadowswords are also part of an Imperium army so I won't have to worry about them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 18:59:34
Subject: [3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Adime wrote:I thought they only had the volcano cannon (one 5'' strength D shot)? Either way, shadowswords are also part of an Imperium army so I won't have to worry about them.
It's Primary Weapon and Armourbane. Each one adds a d6 to the D table when firing at Vehicles.
Edit: I may be wrong about this. I'm pretty much positive it rolls at least 2d6b1, not sure about the 3d6b1. I only have Tony's word on that, and Tony, while he's good at rules, ain't perfect.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 19:01:50
Subject: [3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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I don't think armourbane and primary weapon work for the D chart. I think it's only for weapons with actual strength values. Otherwise, the warlord would get it with his attacks to since I think they are all primary weapons. Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, I don't think the shadowsword's volcano cannon is armourbane.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 19:04:17
Subject: [3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Adime wrote:I don't think armourbane and primary weapon work for the D chart. I think it's only for weapons with actual strength values. Otherwise, the warlord would get it with his attacks to since I think they are all primary weapons.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, I don't think the shadowsword's volcano cannon is armourbane.
Then Tony is a gorram liar.
Primary Weapon definitely works, though. It's an Armor Pen roll, even if it's on the D table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 19:17:59
Subject: [3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Been Around the Block
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Even through its on a different chart?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 19:18:39
Subject: [3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Ask in YMDC, but I'm pretty dang sure it works.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/01 19:19:06
Subject: [3000 ] - Astra Militarum - How to never lose
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Been Around the Block
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Ok, thanks.
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