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I was curious with how hard it is to find some Confrontation miniatures if there is still an active fan base out there? If so what armies are popular?

I don't know of any Confrontation players, but Miniature Market still has some of the pre-paints and metals in stock. Legendarion and IIRC another company I don't recall the name of are making models from some of the masters still as well.

Cadwallon does as well (but they only take paypal, I hate paypal) and there are some other sites. But I was more curious if we were just an island in the sea of gamers, or if there were other weirdos like us who still love the game. Thanks for posting though.

I have a lot of PPP Confrontation miniatures bought special bargain.

I got several armies for very little money back 2007-9. That well is dry now, either you have enough armies to host games or just get out of the system, or use the minis for something else.

 Orlanth wrote:
I have a lot of PPP Confrontation miniatures bought special bargain.

I got several armies for very little money back 2007-9. That well is dry now, either you have enough armies to host games or just get out of the system, or use the minis for something else.

Slowly but surely building up here as well (some prices are ridiculous, but when getting it piece at a time its not too bad) what armies are you playing?

as an aside, from your name, you play runequest?

Runequest? Hell yes. RQ2 is my preferred system, above all others. I think it had the best internal balance, far far simpler than RQ3. Though nostalgia has a lot to do with my opinion.

I only have Confrontation 4e. I have just about everything that eas released in PPP so that means Lion, Griffin, Wolf, Scorpion and Ram factions. Much was missing so I added to my collection with third party miniatures, and bought so 3e metals for characters where necessary. The game is playable with what I have got, but only the Scorpion, Wolf and Griffin factions are in any way compete, and most of those miss out most of the incarnates in the army book. Conversions were in order to make the rest. Lion and Ram had all its incarnates released, but only a fraction of the units.
The other factions are functionally extinct.

I mod the game in only one way: each incarnate is entitled to its rank in spells and its rank in items separately, because the allocations are otherwise way too low.

Big RQ fans here too even have the old GW bestiary for it I have a solid wolf, scorpion, and griffon force as well with rams being anemic (but i am supplementing with 3ed models and rebasing them with rounds) I use Cadwallon and miniature market, and of course noble knight and CMON for pieces, slowly building them all up to snuff, we play 4ed, 3ed and the rpg Cadwallon, so a bit of obsession here. 2k pts is pretty easy to come up with, but without the fan mades (or going to evo) you are pretty stuck in 4th with what was made. I personally like to command my griffons. My "bro" commands the scorpions and my son loves the wolves. so we are pretty vibrant with what we have.

The GW bestiary came in the GW boxset, it contained a decent sleection of stuff for the game.
The real treasure an works of genius were Griffin Mountain and the Borderlands packs. Nothing released since has come close to the quality.

this one http://www.waynesbooks.com/images/graphics/runequestmonstersprof.jpg

I have griffin island https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51bFkBxz9AL._SX367_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg we have played through this one maybe a dozen times or so. I think we are pretty much mostly in third edition. I had a bunch of that stuff from way back when. Actually ran it for a group in Huntingdon a while back. around 2003 or so.

 thekingofkings wrote:
I was curious with how hard it is to find some Confrontation miniatures if there is still an active fan base out there? If so what armies are popular?

Still have all my Devourers - they have been useful for Dragon Rampant

Not played Confrontation for good few years though

cool. Devourers are alot of fun. I have fought against them before usually with wolfen

I have a bunch of 4e PPP picked up cheap from an FFG holiday sale. Never played the game, but I use the minis for Frostgrave and some homebrewed stuff.

 Ctaylor wrote:
I have a bunch of 4e PPP picked up cheap from an FFG holiday sale. Never played the game, but I use the minis for Frostgrave and some homebrewed stuff.

Highly recommend giving it a try, especially if you like frost grave. the 4th is not quite as skirmishy as the 3rd but its cheap to get rules and such. its a hard call between 4th and 3rd as to what my favorite mini game, WoK and lotr are close...never tried Frostgrave, whats the story with that one?

 thekingofkings wrote:
this one http://www.waynesbooks.com/images/graphics/runequestmonstersprof.jpg

I have griffin island https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51bFkBxz9AL._SX367_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg we have played through this one maybe a dozen times or so. I think we are pretty much mostly in third edition. I had a bunch of that stuff from way back when. Actually ran it for a group in Huntingdon a while back. around 2003 or so.

Ah, that edition.

RQ3 is technically superior, but I always thought it was missing something.


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 thekingofkings wrote:

 Ctaylor wrote:
I have a bunch of 4e PPP picked up cheap from an FFG holiday sale. Never played the game, but I use the minis for Frostgrave and some homebrewed stuff.

Highly recommend giving it a try, especially if you like frost grave. the 4th is not quite as skirmishy as the 3rd but its cheap to get rules and such.

AT-43 and CAoR had a very tight simple combat system. There were things wrong with it, but nothing that couldn't be fixed fairly easily. The core concept and dice mechanics were very sound.

 Orlanth wrote:

 thekingofkings wrote:
this one http://www.waynesbooks.com/images/graphics/runequestmonstersprof.jpg

I have griffin island https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51bFkBxz9AL._SX367_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg we have played through this one maybe a dozen times or so. I think we are pretty much mostly in third edition. I had a bunch of that stuff from way back when. Actually ran it for a group in Huntingdon a while back. around 2003 or so.

Ah, that edition.

RQ3 is technically superior, but I always thought it was missing something.


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 thekingofkings wrote:

 Ctaylor wrote:
I have a bunch of 4e PPP picked up cheap from an FFG holiday sale. Never played the game, but I use the minis for Frostgrave and some homebrewed stuff.

Highly recommend giving it a try, especially if you like frost grave. the 4th is not quite as skirmishy as the 3rd but its cheap to get rules and such.

AT-43 and CAoR had a very tight simple combat system. There were things wrong with it, but nothing that couldn't be fixed fairly easily. The core concept and dice mechanics were very sound.

I liked that the models for pretty much any edition were still usable. RQ3 was missing the spirit of 2nd edition. Still both are damn good. Was still damn fun to play RQ, Glorantha is a neat world. Ducks and baboon

I toned down a lot in my games, ducks are fun in moderation.

I loved Confrontation: Age of Ragnorok, and still do. I have 2000+ pts each of the Griffin, Dirz, and Wolfen armies. Got a buddy into it and he bought the Lions and Ram armies. Having fun right now painting up a counts-as army of "Rat" goblins using Skaven as it just seems to fit with both the totem/god and the pseudo-samurai theme.

Like said before, the game has some flaws, but none that are that bad, and the basic dice mechanic is very slick and sound. Also love how ranged combat in both Confrontation and AT-43 are handled.

 thekingofkings wrote:
cool. Devourers are alot of fun. I have fought against them before usually with wolfen

Loved Killing Wolfen with Devourers - hey you guys forgot your armour!

 Orlanth wrote:
I toned down a lot in my games, ducks are fun in moderation.

we had one duck, ever and he was the most serious guy in the group, needless to say it was an interesting trip into dorastor with a duck who thinks he is a knight



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 AegisGrimm wrote:
I loved Confrontation: Age of Ragnorok, and still do. I have 2000+ pts each of the Griffin, Dirz, and Wolfen armies. Got a buddy into it and he bought the Lions and Ram armies. Having fun right now painting up a counts-as army of "Rat" goblins using Skaven as it just seems to fit with both the totem/god and the pseudo-samurai theme.

Like said before, the game has some flaws, but none that are that bad, and the basic dice mechanic is very slick and sound. Also love how ranged combat in both Confrontation and AT-43 are handled.

Similar start here, large griffon, wolf, scorpion, and lion forces, smaller rams, we do have older kelts (drunes) and captain krill and his goblin pirates We are using CMON and Cadwallon to bulk up our forces I am a fan of each box being a big upgrade to existing forces, that does sound like a cool "rats" force


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 Mr Morden wrote:

 thekingofkings wrote:
cool. Devourers are alot of fun. I have fought against them before usually with wolfen

Loved Killing Wolfen with Devourers - hey you guys forgot your armour!

Not afraid to fight naked!

Confrontation had way too many factions, more than warhammer but with the tiniest fraction of the miniatures range.

IIRC Rackham intended to provide only six races for CAoR until it was well established, the sixth being their wood elf range. Daikinee or some such.
I like how they were giving the factions and army books more structure and had a lot of the missing items from the lines in pre-production when they went under.

I had high hopes for the Mercenary campaign game they brought out bt it was horribly limited in that you could not chnage the armour or weapons of your warband once you bought them - just use whatever the base model had. Missed opportunity.

Devourers and Wolfen were just so different to everything else on the market at the time - love my huntsmen - yeah that bow is about 8ft - thats why its "artillery" - happy days.

- malifaux and a few other games has captured the dark insanity of some of the other factions.

Yllia's bolts - wolfen with crossbows are also able to dole out the fun. I converted some up from fangs and large scale crossbowmen from a castle set. Not entirely satisfied with the results, but giving wolfen a worthwhile ranged attack was worth the effort, especially as there are a lot of anti ranged howls to use.

 Orlanth wrote:
Confrontation had way too many factions, more than warhammer but with the tiniest fraction of the miniatures range.

IIRC Rackham intended to provide only six races for CAoR until it was well established, the sixth being their wood elf range. Daikinee or some such.
I like how they were giving the factions and army books more structure and had a lot of the missing items from the lines in pre-production when they went under.

I really liked the variety, in 3ed you usually had some groups so while there were alot of factions and some were "limited" it did allow for alot of variety (and it made it easier when rpg playing cadwallon to have that variety) I dont think 4th ed was going to expand too much (though my card sets had kelts in with lions and wolfen and griffons, so there was more love for the ways of light). I would have loved to see it continue.


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 Mr Morden wrote:
I had high hopes for the Mercenary campaign game they brought out bt it was horribly limited in that you could not chnage the armour or weapons of your warband once you bought them - just use whatever the base model had. Missed opportunity.

Devourers and Wolfen were just so different to everything else on the market at the time - love my huntsmen - yeah that bow is about 8ft - thats why its "artillery" - happy days.

- malifaux and a few other games has captured the dark insanity of some of the other factions.

Yeah Dogs of War for 3rd edition was awesome. The armour thing and weapons could be a problem, but unlike mordheim, the models in confrontation are pretty much WYSIWYG..made it a bit hard. Devourers were cool becuase they were more than just wolfen and the big hoss archers were awesome.

I had converted a couple of my Devourers to have different blades in advance to give a bit of variety.

Must admit I bought into the recent Wrath of Kings kickstarter mainly to get some more Devourers

I collect the miniatures and have the rule books and a few of the magazines but never actually played the game.
I think most around here just bought for painting when they were big.

Have a pretty big collection and plan to play one day.....one day....

 Mr Morden wrote:


Must admit I bought into the recent Wrath of Kings kickstarter mainly to get some more Devourers

I missed that one.

Edit after looking....

Plenty of not-Wolfen and a not-Sasia Samaris in the House Goritsi boxset, Lot of junk though.to wade through to get to that and other minis. Overall I wasnt too impressed, to me less is more, which is why was nevera huge fan of Confrontation 3e, I only bought one miniature, a Pythia, and that was to use as something else.

 Mr Morden wrote:
I had converted a couple of my Devourers to have different blades in advance to give a bit of variety.

Must admit I bought into the recent Wrath of Kings kickstarter mainly to get some more Devourers

I was hoping with the whole "pheonix edition" that CMON was bringing back Confrontation (and I have bought some of the minis) but losing some hope there. Wrath of Kings I really enjoy for what it is rules wise. But my heart is still with Confrontation, may end up using some goritsi werewolves to fill holes as needed.


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DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
I collect the miniatures and have the rule books and a few of the magazines but never actually played the game.
I think most around here just bought for painting when they were big.

Have a pretty big collection and plan to play one day.....one day....

If you ever get to Colorado, we would gladly play you!


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 Orlanth wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:


Must admit I bought into the recent Wrath of Kings kickstarter mainly to get some more Devourers

I missed that one.

Edit after looking....

Plenty of not-Wolfen and a not-Sasia Samaris in the House Goritsi boxset, Lot of junk though.to wade through to get to that and other minis. Overall I wasnt too impressed, to me less is more, which is why was nevera huge fan of Confrontation 3e, I only bought one miniature, a Pythia, and that was to use as something else.

The models arent quite my style from Wrath, but I like them enough since I love the rules. We play it too, but not when the Confrontation group is together,. If I can figure out how to make pics in here, I should post some batrep pics we do

One of the things I liked about 4e Confrontation was that the miniatures were less 'busy', earlier Rackham models were covered in gaudy detail, some people loved that, I wasnt one of them.

Until recently most GW miniatures were fairly simple at heart, and even now they restrict the busy models to central showpiece and oversized stuff. Wrath of Kings doesnt impress me, though the concensus so far i that the rules are good.
Chances are I will pick up a Dragonhunter to counts as Desert Rose for my Dirz list and leave it at that.

 Orlanth wrote:
One of the things I liked about 4e Confrontation was that the miniatures were less 'busy', earlier Rackham models were covered in gaudy detail, some people loved that, I wasnt one of them.

Until recently most GW miniatures were fairly simple at heart, and even now they restrict the busy models to central showpiece and oversized stuff. Wrath of Kings doesnt impress me, though the concensus so far i that the rules are good.
Chances are I will pick up a Dragonhunter to counts as Desert Rose for my Dirz list and leave it at that.

My love of the prepaints stems from being too lazy (I have 1k+ lotr/hobbit minis and havent come anywhere near painting them all) so its nice to open a box and play right away. I had to get over the anime/manga look of WoK to give it a try, but now the rules have me hooked. IT is small scale like confrontation and each model matters. its quick to play but not AoS simple. I think the guady detail was a sign of the times (I have other games that around that time were the same way) and GW has/had a love affair with skulls that approaches the morbid.

 thekingofkings wrote:
I was curious with how hard it is to find some Confrontation miniatures if there is still an active fan base out there? If so what armies are popular?

Judging from your avatar, I would rather ask if you are still playing Chronopia?