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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 10:39:44
Subject: Army Painter or Citadel Tools
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Greece
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Hi everyone I would like to ask from people with experience with those tools which one should I buy? I want to get a drill and model files and I show that on those 2 companies there is a huge difference on the prices. So is there a catch I mean is there something wrong with the army painter drill compare to the citadel one? Or there is nothing wrong to it and the citadel is just overpriced? Thank you all for your time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 11:17:07
Subject: Army Painter or Citadel Tools
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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The GW drill is nice, but a lot of the price is just the GW tax..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 12:26:15
Subject: Re:Army Painter or Citadel Tools
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I have the AP Drill - they're pretty much identical in function; GW tools are great quality, but you can find better value tools with the same level of quality if you wish to dig for a little bit. Also note that the AP Drill comes with more drill bits of different sizes. As for files, check out Draper Files online - I have a 12 piece set from them (not sure if they sell it anymore); it's pricey, but they're worth every penny for their quality, durability and the sheer range of surfaces you get, allowing you to file away stuff from practically any nook and cranny Hope this helps G.A
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G.A - Should've called myself Ghost Ark
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 13:21:27
Subject: Army Painter or Citadel Tools
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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I just paint to advanced tabletop, but the AP drill works fine. Remember to use paper clips to pin your models!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 13:27:02
Subject: Re:Army Painter or Citadel Tools
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Fresh-Faced New User
Greece
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Thanks guys for the answer thank you all very much
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0005/12/16 11:35:12
Subject: Army Painter or Citadel Tools
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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In general from what I’ve seen, GW tools are decent quality, but have a serious markup. You can get the same quality for less, or better quality at that price.
I use an AP drill and have no major issues with it. Occasionally I want to use some larger bits then it can hold, but that’s not really it’s fault.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 14:06:58
Subject: Army Painter or Citadel Tools
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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Nevelon wrote:In general from what I’ve seen, GW tools are decent quality, but have a serious markup. You can get the same quality for less, or better quality at that price.
I use an AP drill and have no major issues with it. Occasionally I want to use some larger bits then it can hold, but that’s not really it’s fault.
I don't know specifically about the AP drill, but there's usually a 2nd collet stored in the handle for larger drill bits (there's 3 grips, the one furthest away from the drill can be unscrewed).
Normally if a drill is bigger than either of the 2 collets can hold, you probably don't want to be using a hand pin vice to drill it anyway.
Oh, and that's what they're called, pin vices, sometimes you can often get them from hardware stores, electronic stores, hobby stores, etc for less money.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 14:38:35
Subject: Army Painter or Citadel Tools
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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AllSeeingSkink wrote: Nevelon wrote:In general from what I’ve seen, GW tools are decent quality, but have a serious markup. You can get the same quality for less, or better quality at that price.
I use an AP drill and have no major issues with it. Occasionally I want to use some larger bits then it can hold, but that’s not really it’s fault.
I don't know specifically about the AP drill, but there's usually a 2nd collet stored in the handle for larger drill bits (there's 3 grips, the one furthest away from the drill can be unscrewed).
Normally if a drill is bigger than either of the 2 collets can hold, you probably don't want to be using a hand pin vice to drill it anyway.
Oh, and that's what they're called, pin vices, sometimes you can often get them from hardware stores, electronic stores, hobby stores, etc for less money.
Yup. I know of the spare collet, and use it. I can just barely squeeze a 3mm drill bit into the largest one. I do, however, have a stack of 1/8” magnets (3.2mm) that I sometimes want to use, and can’t fit a bit into my drill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 14:39:55
Subject: Army Painter or Citadel Tools
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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Ahh, too bad, that's why you stick to metric I guess
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 14:55:50
Subject: Army Painter or Citadel Tools
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Depends on where you live. My metric drill bits were special ordered online; you can’t find them on the shelf here at any hardware store. Depending where you get you magnets, they also might be in inches, not metric.
For the most part I use 2mm magnets these days. And drill a hole for them with a 5/64” bit. Which works out to 1.98mm, so close enough for something being done by hand.
My 1/8th magnet were from I started with magnetizing, before I got my pin vice. Drilled holes with my power drill. Not recommended.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 15:10:02
Subject: Army Painter or Citadel Tools
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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You can get larger pin vices as well, I've seen ones that hold up to a 8mm drill with a keyless chuck rather than collets, weren't that expensive either, I think about $10-15. They tend not to be able to hold the really tiny < 1mm drill bits though. But probably more appropriate for people who want to do magnets rather than just drilling small holes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 15:16:11
Subject: Army Painter or Citadel Tools
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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While they don't make many specific modeling tools, anything you can find by Fiskars is a good investment (they make an excellent X-actor blade, etc.). I don't think they do drills - they might do clippers.
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