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 TheoreticalFish wrote:
CALLED IT!

CELESTINE = CELESTANT PRIME + SOULSTORM

St. Celestorm?

Aka Soulestine.

 Pouncey wrote:

afk1sec wrote:
It's them backtracking on a job not well done. All of their original posting were that it over wrote the old book. Internet backlash is all that fixed that. Everyone is still out 40 bucks wasted on a book full of things they could have done already in a better way.

Honestly, I'm just gonna wait for plastic Sisters of Battle before I get back into 40k tabletop. This new Codex is unimpressive and caters only to a small niche, of which I am not, and our one new model is resin, not plastic. I'm also getting the feeling that GW's attitude of neglect toward my army hasn't really been ameliorated, instead they obviously just intend to do the bare minimum to say they aren't neglecting them anymore.

I'm expecting the "update" to actually just be casting the existing sculpts in resin instead of metal now more than ever, if anything at all. Maybe they'll just replace Celestine with Veridyan and leave everything else unchanged. If I'm wrong, I'll rejoin the playerbase, buy the new models, but I currently feel like I was wrong to get my hopes up that maybe things would be different this time.

And this is more of a side note, but at this point I simply will not be grateful when plastic Sisters of Battle are released. They are overdue in the extreme, and GW's conduct toward the army does not inspire any gratitude on my part. If I go into my GW on plastic Sisters of Battle launch day, and the clerk asks if I'm glad plastic Sisters of Battle are out, I won't snap at her, but I'll give her a sad look and say, "5+ years ago, I might've been. It's hard to get excited at this point though, given how much your company dragged their heels on this," or something similar. I'm too socially-anxious to ever be the slightest bit impolite in public, but I could not feign excitement at this point if I tried.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2016/12/20/3f4afc74cc6880ba5c599ef63daf609a_86074.jpg__thumb

Here.

You wanted my picture of the new plastic celestine, who was obviously coming out soon because she was the only thing to go OOP.

Here you go.

afk1sec wrote:
Plastic sisters of battle pics from jan. white dwarf going around on 4chan tonight.
Looks like we can forget about this book by Feb.

Awesome! : D

Though I want to point out that due to the hat, the first image is in fact an Inquisitor.

Skip about 80s into the video to see my reaction:

 Pouncey wrote:

Spoiler:

afk1sec wrote:
Plastic sisters of battle pics from jan. white dwarf going around on 4chan tonight.
Looks like we can forget about this book by Feb.

Awesome! : D

Though I want to point out that due to the hat, the first image is in fact an Inquisitor.

Skip about 80s into the video to see my reaction:

I am puzzled by your comments as of late. You say you quit about 2 years ago or so, you don't play 40K anymore will never believe anything, spent a lot of energy and time on how this will never happen and you say you don't care and now all of a sudden you change?

Davor wrote:
I am puzzled by your comments as of late. You say you quit about 2 years ago or so, you don't play 40K anymore will never believe anything, spent a lot of energy and time on how this will never happen and you say you don't care and now all of a sudden you change?

Because this time there are pictures to go along with the rumours. That's never happened before.

What bugs me is the video says "St Celestine leading a Black Templars crusade". Given the propensity of Spess Mehrens to steal things from the Witch Hunters/ Sisters of Battle wargear list (Inferno Pistols, Eviscerators...) I'm slightly worried they might've stolen St Celestine as well. Either that or she'll end up as a Special Character in a campaign supplement or something, like the dudes from Codex: Eye of Terror. She's the only "plastic Sisters" we're seen so far - still plenty of scope for a full-scale Squatting or another year of neglect.


EDIT: Seems like there's a new supplement coming out covering the fall of Cadia. Smells like a "Codex: Eye of Terror"-style campaign book to me...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/711687.page

 BBAP wrote:

Davor wrote:
I am puzzled by your comments as of late. You say you quit about 2 years ago or so, you don't play 40K anymore will never believe anything, spent a lot of energy and time on how this will never happen and you say you don't care and now all of a sudden you change?

Because this time there are pictures to go along with the info. That's never happened before.

Pictures from WD.

I believe those.

I don't believe vague promises with zero proof offered, because "Sisters are getting new plastics!" rumors with no proof cropped up at least once a year for the past decade or so.

I DO believe photographs of a White Dwarf magazine like these.

I've said, "I'll believe it when I see it." I meant that literally. Now I am actually seeing it. And thus I believe it, like I said I would.

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 BBAP wrote:

Davor wrote:
I am puzzled by your comments as of late. You say you quit about 2 years ago or so, you don't play 40K anymore will never believe anything, spent a lot of energy and time on how this will never happen and you say you don't care and now all of a sudden you change?

Because this time there are pictures to go along with the rumours. That's never happened before.

What bugs me is the video says "St Celestine leading a Black Templars crusade". Given the propensity of Spess Mehrens to steal things from the Witch Hunters/ Sisters of Battle wargear list (Inferno Pistols, Eviscerators...) I'm slightly worried they might've stolen St Celestine as well. Either that or she'll end up as a Special Character in a campaign supplement or something, like the dudes from Codex: Eye of Terror. She's the only "plastic Sisters" we're seen so far - still plenty of scope for a full-scale Squatting or another year of neglect.


EDIT: Seems like there's a new supplement coming out covering the fall of Cadia. Smells like a "Codex: Eye of Terror"-style campaign book to me...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/711687.page

Uhh, the picture of Celestine contains two other, different models that are obviously Seraphim of some sort.

They're designing new sculpts. Maybe they're resin, and if they are I will be EXTREMELY disappointed. But these models look like plastic kits to my eyes (I dunno how they look like that, they just kinda do), so now there is actual, REAL optimism to be had.

 Pouncey wrote:

 BBAP wrote:

Davor wrote:
I am puzzled by your comments as of late. You say you quit about 2 years ago or so, you don't play 40K anymore will never believe anything, spent a lot of energy and time on how this will never happen and you say you don't care and now all of a sudden you change?

Because this time there are pictures to go along with the info. That's never happened before.

Pictures from WD.

I believe those.

I don't believe vague promises with zero proof offered, because "Sisters are getting new plastics!" rumors with no proof cropped up at least once a year for the past decade or so.

I DO believe photographs of a White Dwarf magazine like these.

I've said, "I'll believe it when I see it." I meant that literally. Now I am actually seeing it. And thus I believe it, like I said I would.

But you said it with such negativity. Even the people who had hope and were trying to stay positive you were telling them they were wrong for doing so. Also you said you didn't care with such passion. So even if it did show up, you shouldn't have been so excited for this when you were very negative, even more negative than me. You boasted how you quit over two years ago, don't play no more, show no interest, and you said you didn't care.

Just saying it doesn't seem you. I swear you account got hacked and it was someone else. That said, I am glad to see you happy and I hope the rules you can have fun with and you will be content what ever this "release" is.

Davor wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 BBAP wrote:

Davor wrote:
I am puzzled by your comments as of late. You say you quit about 2 years ago or so, you don't play 40K anymore will never believe anything, spent a lot of energy and time on how this will never happen and you say you don't care and now all of a sudden you change?

Because this time there are pictures to go along with the info. That's never happened before.

Pictures from WD.

I believe those.

I don't believe vague promises with zero proof offered, because "Sisters are getting new plastics!" rumors with no proof cropped up at least once a year for the past decade or so.

I DO believe photographs of a White Dwarf magazine like these.

I've said, "I'll believe it when I see it." I meant that literally. Now I am actually seeing it. And thus I believe it, like I said I would.

But you said it with such negativity. Even the people who had hope and were trying to stay positive you were telling them they were wrong for doing so. Also you said you didn't care with such passion. So even if it did show up, you shouldn't have been so excited for this when you were very negative, even more negative than me. You boasted how you quit over two years ago, don't play no more, show no interest, and you said you didn't care.

Just saying it doesn't seem you. I swear you account got hacked and it was someone else. That said, I am glad to see you happy and I hope the rules you can have fun with and you will be content what ever this "release" is.

I'm remembering an episode of Stargate SG-1 right now that seems relevant. The characters were fleeing a swarm of Replicators and needed to get their own ship far away from Apophis' flagship that the enemy flagship's self-destruct wouldn't destroy them too. During the tense moments, General Carter yelled, "We're not gonna make it!" but of course they do, so after the danger is clear, and they're safe and sound, Col. O'Neill made a big issue out of the fact that Carter declared the team would not survive, to which Carter, now calm and content, replied, "I'm sorry, but at the time it looked very much like we weren't going to make it."

Given what was going on with Sisters of Battle over the past 5 years since I first became negative about it (the 5 years before that I was actually one of the most positive people regarding the Sisters of Battle, including my early months on Dakka, and you can go check my early posts if you want to confirm that) and given what the past 3 months or so have changed about how GW treats the army, I am now going to tell you this,

When I was pessimistic and foreseeing the end of the army, it looked very much like the situation was hopeless.

Given the information available at the time, it was the correct way to view the army.

Now the information available suggests that hope and optimism is the correct way to view it.


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Seriously, why is it so hard to believe that seeing picture proof of what I have wanted most for my army for years imminently coming within the next few months prompts me to act differently?

I'll readily say that I've been far more optimistic than Pouncey, but I do see where they are coming from. (After all, I have my Orks and Space Marines to fall back on, I got Sisters of Battle as my third army.) It's been over a decade since Sisters got ANY new sculpts, and right now the only new one is an incredibly limited resin model. Plastics are going to be awesome, but I can see how this can be met with a "Oh, FINALLY", rather than a "Awesome!"

Also, imagine how pessimistic any other faction might've been if they were still using their original metal sculpts from the 1990s while watching their selection of available models slowly slip away after having been removed from GW store shelves, and GW invents entirely new factions and games with all-plastic models.

Like, imagine how IG fans would feel if they never got any model updates after the 1990s ranges and still had to rely on the all-metal model ranges now in the "Legacy" section of the webstore. Imagine how Dark Eldar players would feel if they never got their plastic range during 5e.

The reason fans of other armies don't understand how Sisters of Battle fans can be so pessimistic is because the only army that's been more mistreated than Sisters of Battle is freaking SQUATS.

I dont have the book yet. Will most certainly order it.

So From what im reading its basically a supplement that allows you to ally sisters, deathwatch, greyknights with their respective order of inquisition.

Now that's some pretty neato stuff right there.
Xenos inquisitor with his almighty Deathwatch marines.
Maleus with his big meaty templar greyknights
And hereticus with his bolter babes.

That sounds pretty sweet. If im reading this correctly it means that all of the weak points the specific armies had can be filled in with inquisition.

Greyknights and marines lack bodies and cheap fire support. Inq has loads.
Sisters lacks plasma and survivable melee threats. Inq has some.

It could easily be done before via allies but now its all in one handy book.

 drunken0elf wrote:
I dont have the book yet. Will most certainly order it.

So From what im reading its basically a supplement that allows you to ally sisters, deathwatch, greyknights with their respective order of inquisition.

Now that's some pretty neato stuff right there.
Xenos inquisitor with his almighty Deathwatch marines.
Maleus with his big meaty templar greyknights
And hereticus with his bolter babes.

That sounds pretty sweet. If im reading this correctly it means that all of the weak points the specific armies had can be filled in with inquisition.

Greyknights and marines lack bodies and cheap fire support. Inq has loads.
Sisters lacks plasma and survivable melee threats. Inq has some.

It could easily be done before via allies but now its all in one handy book.

I still don't know what was wrong with the idea of just owning multiple books and using the existing Allies rules if you want to play multiple factions.

I mean, I like to ally my personal army with my partner's personal army, so should I ask GW for a book that lets me ally my Sisters of Battle with vanilla Space Marines more easily based on the precedent of Codex: Imperial Agents?

 Pouncey wrote:

 drunken0elf wrote:
I dont have the book yet. Will most certainly order it.

So From what im reading its basically a supplement that allows you to ally sisters, deathwatch, greyknights with their respective order of inquisition.

Now that's some pretty neato stuff right there.
Xenos inquisitor with his almighty Deathwatch marines.
Maleus with his big meaty templar greyknights
And hereticus with his bolter babes.

That sounds pretty sweet. If im reading this correctly it means that all of the weak points the specific armies had can be filled in with inquisition.

Greyknights and marines lack bodies and cheap fire support. Inq has loads.
Sisters lacks plasma and survivable melee threats. Inq has some.

It could easily be done before via allies but now its all in one handy book.

I still don't know what was wrong with the idea of just owning multiple books and using the existing Allies rules if you want to play multiple factions.

I mean, I like to ally my personal army with my partner's personal army, so should I ask GW for a book that lets me ally my Sisters of Battle with vanilla Space Marines more easily based on the precedent of Codex: Imperial Agents?

There's no issue. Just it was annoying for me to have printouts. No biggy if it doesn't bother you.

But the 5pts for power armor on the acolytes is what I'm all about tho

 Pouncey wrote:
Uhh, the picture of Celestine contains two other, different models that are obviously Seraphim of some sort.

They're designing new sculpts. Maybe they're resin, and if they are I will be EXTREMELY disappointed. But these models look like plastic kits to my eyes (I dunno how they look like that, they just kinda do), so now there is actual, REAL optimism to be had.

So St Celestine and "models who go with St Celestine" are the only things we've seen so far. Those models are very... ornate, I think it's more likely they're some kind of bodyguard for Celestine than an average everyday Seraphim.

I hope I'm wrong, I really do, but there's still plenty of scope for this to **not** be a Sisters update or even plastic kits. My money is on "special character in a Codex: Eye of Terror-style supplement", but we'll see, I suppose.

Don't throw your Codex: Imperial Agents in the bin just yet.

 BBAP wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:
Uhh, the picture of Celestine contains two other, different models that are obviously Seraphim of some sort.

They're designing new sculpts. Maybe they're resin, and if they are I will be EXTREMELY disappointed. But these models look like plastic kits to my eyes (I dunno how they look like that, they just kinda do), so now there is actual, REAL optimism to be had.

So St Celestine and "models who go with St Celestine" are the only things we've seen so far. Those models are very... ornate, I think it's more likely they're some kind of bodyguard for Celestine than an average everyday Seraphim.

I hope I'm wrong, I really do, but there's still plenty of scope for this to **not** be a Sisters update or even plastic kits. My money is on "special character in a Codex: Eye of Terror-style supplement", but we'll see, I suppose.

Don't throw your Codex: Imperial Agents in the bin just yet.

The two sidekicks are called the "Geminae Superia", so it's unlikely they're your regular Seraphim. If they do a regular Seraphim I could imagine they'd be slightly less ornate and without the wings and power swords.
Oh. And they explicitly say they're made of plastic, "the first plastic sisters" or something similar.

 BBAP wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:
Uhh, the picture of Celestine contains two other, different models that are obviously Seraphim of some sort.

They're designing new sculpts. Maybe they're resin, and if they are I will be EXTREMELY disappointed. But these models look like plastic kits to my eyes (I dunno how they look like that, they just kinda do), so now there is actual, REAL optimism to be had.

So St Celestine and "models who go with St Celestine" are the only things we've seen so far. Those models are very... ornate, I think it's more likely they're some kind of bodyguard for Celestine than an average everyday Seraphim.

I hope I'm wrong, I really do, but there's still plenty of scope for this to **not** be a Sisters update or even plastic kits. My money is on "special character in a Codex: Eye of Terror-style supplement", but we'll see, I suppose.

Don't throw your Codex: Imperial Agents in the bin just yet.

I never bought C: IA actually. If it came down to it, I would use C: IA for my Sisters of Battle despite the loss of Celestine (honestly, I'm not a huge fan of using special characters, mostly I use Celestine as much as I do because she's powerful and I really like my conversion/kitbash made by giving her old metal model a Sanguinary Guard backpack instead of the shroud and cherubs.

Regarding the Celestine model, yeah, I did consider that. I don't think they'd go to the trouble of designing Seraphim plastic models and not use a similar design for a plastic Seraphim kit though.

There's definitely reason to be hopeful now though. We're getting new models for the first time in 13 years, and that's absolutely a strong sign for hope where there wasn't one before. The fact our entire model range wasn't updated in the first go may not mean much anymore, since GW moved away from the huge splurge of releases with a Codex thing at least a year or two ago, and now they do small updates of a few kits slowly over time. I guess it lets fans of armies spread out their purchases over time, which sounds like it'd be a decent way of doing things instead of overwhelming people with a flood of new models and forcing us to decide what we want to go without in the meantime.

I mean, if you want to convince me to be pessimistic at all, you could point out that there are no plastic infantry yet, just a resin special character and a plastic Seraphim/Celestine kit, so my dream of kitbashing/converting my army is still not technically here yet.

However, I do want to be hopeful, and getting actual model updates is definitely a reason to be hopeful. I fully acknowledge that GW may not carry through on converting the model range to plastics, but there's a LOT more reason now to believe that they plan to do that than there has been for years, and I choose to be happy and hopeful now.

I mean, really, I'm not someone who gets off on complaining and whining all day. I complain and whine only when I feel I have valid reasons to be upset.

 AnomanderRake wrote:
I'm angrier about my Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, honestly. They haven't had an entry in a hardcopy Codex for just as long, but GW isn't coming out and squatting them, they're shaving away their game presence and excising them from the lore bit by sorry bit until we're left with 'Acolyte' squads who can't figure out which way to point a gun, may or may not know how to use their transports, and generally just sit around being wastes of space.

At least Sisters have rules and sort of work.

Yeah, it sucks. I really hope GW will give the Inquisition suite some real love, with access to at least Guard veterans equivalent!

 Pouncey wrote:
I mean, if you want to convince me to be pessimistic at all, you could point out that there are no plastic infantry yet, just a resin special character and a plastic Seraphim/Celestine kit, so my dream of kitbashing/converting my army is still not technically here yet.

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything - just saying, based on what we've got so far there's no reason to think there'll be any plastics beyond Celestine and the bodyguards, and none whatsoever to suppose a Sisters update is forthcoming.

It might well be, but I personally want a bit more info before I start getting excited. The new kits are cool and I'll probably drop a few quid on them regardless.

 BBAP wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:
I mean, if you want to convince me to be pessimistic at all, you could point out that there are no plastic infantry yet, just a resin special character and a plastic Seraphim/Celestine kit, so my dream of kitbashing/converting my army is still not technically here yet.

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything - just saying, based on what we've got so far there's no reason to think there'll be any plastics beyond Celestine and the bodyguards, and none whatsoever to suppose a Sisters update is forthcoming.

It might well be, but I personally want a bit more info before I start getting excited. The new kits are cool and I'll probably drop a few quid on them regardless.

Uhh...

What exactly do you call Celestine being remodeled as a plastic kit if not the very definition of a model being updated in plastic?

And yeah, I guess you're right, there's nothing specifically stating that more are to follow, but given that GW got rid of Kirby six months ago and have been turning over a new leaf in how they do things, there's reason for me to be hopeful for the future that I am comfortable assuming that they will not simply update one kit, create a new special character, then mysteriously stop there.

My pessimism was because there were no updates previously. Now there factually are updates.

It took me a bit to realize this too, but the last time Sisters of Battle got new models is no longer 2003. Now the most recent Sisters of Battle models were released in December 2016 (Canoness Veridian) and there is a White Dwarf advertising a plastic Celestine kit coming in January 2017.

 Pouncey wrote:
What exactly do you call Celestine being remodeled as a plastic kit if not the very definition of a model being updated in plastic?

Jesus fething... If you want to be obtuse then Celestine is **technically** a Sisters of Battle model redone in plastic, but unless you're planning to buy 50 of them and convert them extensively to serve as Battle Sistser/ Dominions/ etc then "plastic Sisters of Battle" it ain't.

Don't get me wrong - it's way, way too early to write anything off or start whining or anything, because this is the first leak we've had, but everyone's crowing about updates and "plastic Sisters of Battle" and we just haven't seen any evidence that points to that.

 BBAP wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:
What exactly do you call Celestine being remodeled as a plastic kit if not the very definition of a model being updated in plastic?

Jesus fething... If you want to be obtuse then Celestine is **technically** a Sisters of Battle model redone in plastic, but unless you're planning to buy 50 of them and convert them extensively to serve as Battle Sistser/ Dominions/ etc then "plastic Sisters of Battle" it ain't.

Don't get me wrong - it's way, way too early to write anything off or start whining or anything, because this is the first leak we've had, but everyone's crowing about updates and "plastic Sisters of Battle" and we just haven't seen any evidence that points to that.

I guess I can't fault you. I'm sorry. Personally, I just don't believe they'd update only one character and then not touch the rest of the army, so the lack of confirmation on more to come doesn't mean as much to me. The fact that these are not simply rumormongers promising an update, but what could easily be the very beginning of an army-wide transition to plastic models with the first kits being displayed in White Dwarf helps my optimism, and it means a lot more to me, personally.

I also noticed that they don't do the splurge of releases to go with a new Codex anymore, instead they do small updates over a longer period of time, so the fact Celestine's the only model to be updated in January isn't really a reason to believe nothing more is coming to me, and I expect that if the rest of the army is updated, it will be done one or two kits per month over the period of most of 2017.

However, I can fully recognize that your doubts are valid, and I am willing to drop the matter and promise not to make an issue out of you sticking with the mantra of "I'll believe it when I see it," and simply waiting until the kits are actually on pre-order to get excited. Finding fault with that reasoning would be very hypocritical of me, wouldn't it?

What's "Codex: Eye of Terror"

 koooaei wrote:
What's "Codex: Eye of Terror"

A campaign book from the early Naughties?

early naughties sounds naughty

Pouncey wrote:I also noticed that they don't do the splurge of releases to go with a new Codex anymore, instead they do small updates over a longer period of time, so the fact Celestine's the only model to be updated in January isn't really a reason to believe nothing more is coming to me

I'm not even saying that - just "Celestine announcement =/= plastic Sisters and a new Codex". Something might be coming - but we don't know, and this isn't confirmation of anything beyond a Celestine re-issue (which, if I'm honest, is pretty cool all by itself).

koooaei wrote:What's "Codex: Eye of Terror"

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Codex:_Eye_of_Terror_(3rd_Edition)

 koooaei wrote:
early naughties sounds naughty

It comes from an XKCD comic wondering what to call the decade starting in 0, like we call the 1920s the "twenties". Naught is a term that means zero.

Naughties was suggested because of the rise of the Internet and the flood of easily-accessible lewd material that came with it. It was thus said to be "appropriate" in the comic.


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 BBAP wrote:

Pouncey wrote:I also noticed that they don't do the splurge of releases to go with a new Codex anymore, instead they do small updates over a longer period of time, so the fact Celestine's the only model to be updated in January isn't really a reason to believe nothing more is coming to me

I'm not even saying that - just "Celestine announcement =/= plastic Sisters and a new Codex". Something might be coming - but we don't know, and this isn't confirmation of anything beyond a Celestine re-issue (which, if I'm honest, is pretty cool all by itself).

If you're suggesting that I have no factual basis for my assumption that more is to come, I do agree. My belief that more models will follow has no factual evidence to substantiate it, merely that I cannot fathom why GW would bother to update one model without intending to update the rest of the range as well.

It comes from my inability to imagine a reason they might have for doing something, and thus I do acknowledge that it is merely an unsubstantiated belief, but the worst-case scenario is that no more models follow. At which point I will sigh and return to my former state of negativity. In the meantime I get to be happy and optimistic about my army in 40k. I like being happy, and there's really no downside for me believing in this.

I have dealt with someone with some pretty wacky beliefs and flimsy reasons for believing them. Upon finding out about them, I tried to dissuade him from them, to improve his rationality.

All that really happened though, was that I made his life worse by trying to take away one of the few reasons he had to be happy. I saw how sad he became, and realized that his beliefs harmed no one in any way, they weren't causing him to do anything harmful, he wasn't trying to convince anyone they were even true, but they brought him happiness anyways. I realized that I was undoubtedly the bad guy in that situation, and I've made an effort to be more accepting of harmless beliefs that don't hurt anyone since then. The realization that a superstitious belief could harm no one but still bring happiness and meaning to people's lives anyways even gave me a new tolerance for religion and belief in deities, which I had been sorely lacking in those years.

Besides the SoB (wichbI have. I bought my army for a really good price off a witchhunter player who hasn't played since his codex got gutted (polr soul)).

It's great to see possible updates for the lack of sister love. Not because I'm still new to them that i don't care about them, but that's besides the point.

How's the general feel of inquisition in this book? Other then the loss of 10pt batteries and the cheap 5 firingport chimera?

Coteaz got better, the rest got worse.

So I'm not sure if I missed this question or not but.... did they update the digital inquisition codex with the imperial agents changes? Because they still sell the digital version and if these changes didn't carry over it sounds like the superior version.