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I'm asking because I believe I might start an Emperor's Children and Demonette Army...

I'm also a super fluffy gamer and like to recreate battles etc. I'm worried because Slaneesh is not kid friendly with pierced nipples, bi-sexual pleasure she-male demons, and drugs that GW will phase them out.

Any thoughts?

WILL....NOT.....HAPPEN!!!

Even in AoS, the followers of Slaanesh are still there and active. Slaanesh is even an integral part of one of the major races in 40K: the Eldar. Every Eldar "factions" lifestyle is a direct response to the birth of 'She Who Thirsts'.

At the absolute worse, GW could "kill" Slaanesh, but the Daemons, CSM and other followers of Slaanesh would still be a viable army to play with continued support

But in the fluff if Slaneesh is killed by the Harlequins than would all the Daemons disappear and the Chaos Space Marines would have nothing to worship and probably go to another Chaos god... right?

The fluff is important to me. The stupid death clowns better not kill my pleasure god.

DorianGray wrote:

The fluff is important to me. The stupid death clowns better not kill my pleasure god.

But that's just the thing - the Fluff is Important to the Fans... But GW has consistently shown that it can rearrange the Fluff however it sees fit, depending on who the editorial staff is at the time.


As to your question - Highly Unlikely.

Warhammer Fantasy has someone better than Slaanesh for its purposes - the Chaos God known as the Horned Rat.

40K doesn't have any equivalent to that god.

I, on the other hand, would rather like it if Slaanesh did get ganked. It would be rather novel if the Eldar could actually complete their main objective.

 Robin5t wrote:
I, on the other hand, would rather like it if Slaanesh did get ganked. It would be rather novel if the Eldar could actually complete their main objective.

You know, the more I think of it, the more I could see Slaanesh biting the big one and the Eldar situation improving only just a tiny notch.

I started another thread a bit of ways down about if the Eldar were able to get back some of their Gods (Isha is technically still alive. Asuryan the Phoneix King is said to be comatose "inside" of Slaanesh).

Even if Slaanesh got wiped out, the Eldar Race as a whole is still in a bad position as is the rest of the denizens of the Universe.

Hmm.. this might be the only long term goal that's possible but that wouldn't completely destroy the game.....

As an avid eldar fan for years, I really hope they don't get rid of Slaanesh.

Such a big part of their background, and what's a good protagonist without an equally compelling antagonist?

Also, it would represent one of the things I dislike most about some of the recent developments in 40k: making it less edgy/more kid friendly. Have you noticed that a lot of the drug references have disappeared, and a lot of the 'sensuality' aspect of Slaanesh has been downplayed, favouring the 'martial perfection' side of things. Not to mention the weird crab hermaphrodites that daemonettes are these days...

Get rid of Slaanesh and you make the whole universe less gritty/grimdark.

Thinking about it, that's probably why I don't get on with AoS so well. It all just seems so...I don't know...wholesome.

I find it funny that in a universe full of all manner of horrible creatures, killers, dictators, psychopaths and...chaos ,GW is worried about models that have too much cleavage

Ynnead was GW's chance to do exactly that. They didn't, so I assume they don't intend to.

I don't understand why people think Slaanesh is being removed, let alone for reasons of child unfriendliness.
Age of Sigmar has included Slaaneshi art and models, they would not do this if they were attempting to sanatize the producy. Additionally it's obvious that Slaanesh being missing is a plot point for the future, rather than an indication that he's dead and buried.

OP

Slannesh has not been phased out of AoS.

If you look at the lore, the Chaos Gods are battling for supremacy. Khorne and Nurgle got hammered by the good guys and now Tzeentch is making his play with this new release.

To me this screams, Slannesh is going to make a massive come back and become the Queen of Chaos.

Since we just had Thousand Sons paired with a coming massive AoS Tzeentch release this probably means that when this does happen we'll get Daemon Prince Fulgrim, Lucius and Noise Marine along with an AoS release of KoS, Slannesh cultists and other nastiness.

Plot twist:
The Eldar manage to defeat and kill Slaanesh, but in the process they awaken Ynnead, the sleeping Eldar god of the dead, who turns out to be even worse than Slaanesh and takes its place as one of the 4 Dark Gods.

There ya go. A perfectly grimdark way to write Slaanesh out of the setting and provide a thematic and appropriate replacement.

Slaanesh may very well disappear eventually, or it may not. At this point we could not possibly say. It is also possible that Slaanesh will disappear from AoS but not from 40k.
Slaanesh disappearing as a major thing in the background does seem very likely for AoS though. Current fluff and art does look like he/she/it is being phased out:

No more Slaanesh symbols in Chaos art:


The Everchosen of Chaos seemingly no longer serves Slaanesh:

Animus wrote:
I don't understand why people think Slaanesh is being removed, let alone for reasons of child unfriendliness.
Age of Sigmar has included Slaaneshi art and models, they would not do this if they were attempting to sanatize the producy. Additionally it's obvious that Slaanesh being missing is a plot point for the future, rather than an indication that he's dead and buried.

Because they go off what other people say rather than figure things out.

Slaanesh isn't dead in AoS. S/he hasn't been phased out either. Slaanesh, as a deity, is still around. Slaanesh just can't exercise its power after being trapped by the Aelven deities Tyrion, Teclis, and Malerion following the whole Chaos invasion.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Animus wrote:
I don't understand why people think Slaanesh is being removed, let alone for reasons of child unfriendliness.
Age of Sigmar has included Slaaneshi art and models, they would not do this if they were attempting to sanatize the producy. Additionally it's obvious that Slaanesh being missing is a plot point for the future, rather than an indication that he's dead and buried.

Because they go off what other people say rather than figure things out.

Slaanesh isn't dead in AoS. S/he hasn't been phased out either. Slaanesh, as a deity, is still around. Slaanesh just can't exercise its power after being trapped by the Aelven deities Tyrion, Teclis, and Malerion following the whole Chaos invasion.

That does sound an awful lot like a convenient way to remove Slaanesh from the setting no? Still around somewhere in the background, but imprisoned and no longer able to have any influence.

Right, Slaanesh could be "trapped", but I don't think the nature of the Chaos entities allows them to be "killed". Slaanesh, afterall, was born of the psychic excess of the Eldar and continues to be fed power by his/her worshippers and the occasional Eldar soul.
In order to truly kill a Chaos god, you would need to destroy all its followers and anything that gives it power. So the entire Emperor's Children legion, various other CSM warbands that follow Slaanesh and every last Eldar in existence would need to be destroyed and forgotten overnight in order for Slaanesh to truly be "gone".

Since Eldar are a very, VERY popular faction with several codecies and multiple miniature lines and CSM just got a legion book that features Emperor's Children, I think you can breathe a sigh of relief that Slaanesh is not going anywhere soon.

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 Iron_Captain wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Animus wrote:
I don't understand why people think Slaanesh is being removed, let alone for reasons of child unfriendliness.
Age of Sigmar has included Slaaneshi art and models, they would not do this if they were attempting to sanatize the producy. Additionally it's obvious that Slaanesh being missing is a plot point for the future, rather than an indication that he's dead and buried.

Because they go off what other people say rather than figure things out.

Slaanesh isn't dead in AoS. S/he hasn't been phased out either. Slaanesh, as a deity, is still around. Slaanesh just can't exercise its power after being trapped by the Aelven deities Tyrion, Teclis, and Malerion following the whole Chaos invasion.

That does sound an awful lot like a convenient way to remove Slaanesh from the setting no? Still around somewhere in the background, but imprisoned and no longer able to have any influence.

Except for the fact that during the last bit of the "story arc" they did, Slaanesh's followers are actively searching for it. It looks like the Realm of Shadows is where Slaanesh is imprisoned and its followers can "feel" it.

We know, for example, that while Slaanesh cannot directly influence its minions or directly utilize its powers(hence why Dorghar, Archaon's mount, has no Keeper of Secret head. The three Gods that are loose sent their greatest Daemonic Champions to fight Archaon, and when Archaon defeated them his mount ate them)...Archaon and its followers are still drawing a measure of power from their devotion to Slaanesh.

I think the idea that Slaanesh has been captured is an excuse to give GW time to rethink how they are going to make the new models look. There's a huge quandary here, in that you want to keep the models looking Slaanesh like, while not going overboard and risk offending the overly sensitive market, especially considering GW's desire to go more mainstream.

Ravingbantha wrote:
I think the idea that Slaanesh has been captured is an excuse to give GW time to rethink how they are going to make the new models look. There's a huge quandary here, in that you want to keep the models looking Slaanesh like, while not going overboard and risk offending the overly sensitive market, especially considering GW's desire to go more mainstream.

This is a load of bollocks.

At the same time people were "Oh noes! Slaanesh is gone cause of boobs and stuff!", the Bloodwrack Medusa for Dark Elves was a brand new release which is still sold.
The Medusa has a sculpted on nipple.

The issue isn't "Lulz sex!" or anything of that nature. The issue is likely that people have focused so much on that aspect.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Ravingbantha wrote:
I think the idea that Slaanesh has been captured is an excuse to give GW time to rethink how they are going to make the new models look. There's a huge quandary here, in that you want to keep the models looking Slaanesh like, while not going overboard and risk offending the overly sensitive market, especially considering GW's desire to go more mainstream.

This is a load of bollocks.

At the same time people were "Oh noes! Slaanesh is gone cause of boobs and stuff!", the Bloodwrack Medusa for Dark Elves was a brand new release which is still sold.
The Medusa has a sculpted on nipple.

The issue isn't "Lulz sex!" or anything of that nature. The issue is likely that people have focused so much on that aspect.

If people have focused so much on that aspect, then that is the problem. The fact that it is a focal point, regardless of why, still means it's a problem. The Bloodwrack shrine isn't as big of an issue because it's hardly noticeable. When you put that box on the shelf, your attention is not drawn to that tiny nipple way in the back. To date Slaanesh minis put the breasts more upfront, it becomes a wall of boobs. But it's not even just that, Most slaanesh minis look like something out of a BDSM flick. If you are trying to market to a more mass audience and get more mainsteam, having a line of minis that looks like it rolled out of Hellraiser isn't exactly the way to go. Just because you don't see a problem with it, doesn't mean it's not a problem for others.

GW just made a fortune by throwing out 15 year old Slaanesh models. That alone should show them that Slaanesh still appeals to many fans. Tzeentch finally got some attention and going by the decisions of the new GW leadership I think Slaanesh is likely to follow next year.

No they wont, and the reason is, by doing so the eldar would be absolutely pointless in the story anymore.

No Sleenesh anymore, means the eldar souls are no longer doomed to go to him/her/it, so the eldar, both normal, and dark eldar, have no reason to fight anymore, they would just feth off into their webway and or run their craftworld all over the place to stay outta the fight and then rebuild their empire again once the IoM get done dicking around.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
GW just made a fortune by throwing out 15 year old Slaanesh models. That alone should show them that Slaanesh still appeals to many fans. Tzeentch finally got some attention and going by the decisions of the new GW leadership I think Slaanesh is likely to follow next year.

To be fair, they made a fortune not by "throwing out 15 year old Slaanesh models" but by "throwing out 15 year old Slaanesh models by Juan Diaz that for whatever reason are desperately sought after in a way that I will never, ever understand."

 Iron_Captain wrote:


The Everchosen of Chaos seemingly no longer serves Slaanesh:

Spoiler:

Check the runes at the base of his shield. Dorghar doesn't have a Slaaneshi style head because Slaanesh failed to send a champion to battle Archaon.

Ashtastic wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:


The Everchosen of Chaos seemingly no longer serves Slaanesh:

Spoiler:

Check the runes at the base of his shield. Dorghar doesn't have a Slaaneshi style head because Slaanesh failed to send a champion to battle Archaon.

That one always makes me chuckle.

"Archaon doesn't have Slaanesh devotion anymore!"

It's right there on his shield. Between Khorne and Nurgle.

The original metal Archaon though...no devotional symbols at all to any Gods.

I do not see an outright removal of Slaanesh...but I could see GW downplaying Slaanesh and keeping Slaanesh content in the background compared to the "safe" blood and zombies content of Khorne and Nurgle. In lore terms, I suppose they could write the Eldar win a partial victory of some form, weakening but not eliminating Slaanesh.

I'd rather that GW explore more aspects of Slaanesh like gluttony. And while they could have morbidly obese individuals, I'd like to see something far more sinister like wendigos and the like. Or they could go with vanity which they have already explored a little bit like in the case of fantasy's Sigvald the Magnificent.

It'd be disappointing if GW killed off Slaanesh without delving into all the possibilities that could be.

 Orblivion wrote:
Ynnead was GW's chance to do exactly that. They didn't, so I assume they don't intend to.

Well what can I say...

Haven't they just brought out an Inquisitrix? I really don't see the kid friendly here.

The reason daemonettes were changed was to make them look more like the classic daemon artwork. The issue was that nobody who collected Daemonettes felt the same way. But people have read way too much into that decision.

It's less it being 'kid friendly', more that they wouldn't want to offend the parents if kids wanting to buy their latest power-armoured mary-sues by the sight of semi-naked boobs-out daemon ladies on the shelf next to them.

Personally, i don't think they's cut slaanesh in the same way as in AoS (and Slaanesh most definitely has been cut, maybe to come back later but most certainly disappeared as a big player).

AoS strikes me as an introductory game moreso than 40k, so there would be greater incentive to make it less likely to offend...

Ashtastic wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:


The Everchosen of Chaos seemingly no longer serves Slaanesh:

Spoiler:

Check the runes at the base of his shield. Dorghar doesn't have a Slaaneshi style head because Slaanesh failed to send a champion to battle Archaon.

Hey, I had not even noticed that. That gives some hope, at least