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 Pouncey wrote:
They seem to fail to recognize that Sisters of Battle are a special case

This about sums up all sisters players in these threads.

pm713 wrote:
New Celestine, new Canoness, TWO new Detachments, new and improved rules or at worst copy and pasted rules with the exception of Celestine who will get rules with the shiny new model.

Hatred just makes me think you're way too invested in this emotionally. Everyone gets the nasty end of the stick by GW.

You're kinda making me want to research the release dates of currently-available models and provide a list of all models that would never have been created if GW stopped creating new models for each and every army after 2003, instead of just Sisters of Battle.

To represent Celestine and Veridyan, I'd make a note of the first two character models created for each army after 2003. The first would've gone on pre-order three weeks ago. The second will go on pre-order two weeks from now and you wouldn't even know about it at all had someone not received a WD in the mail early and decided to share.

Do I really have to go through all that trouble?


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 andysonic1 wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:
They seem to fail to recognize that Sisters of Battle are a special case

This about sums up all sisters players in these threads.

FYI, this is the first post I created after seeing the Celestine picture:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/150/711521.page#9089038

I am negative now, in this thread, because the constant assertion that Sisters of Battle were treated equally to other armies has become just as tiresome and annoying to me as Sisters of Battle players' negativity has become to players of other armies. The constant accusations of "Oh, you're just a jerk who loves to complain," ignores the reality of the situation for me, as that absolutely is not true for me.

Sisters could have been treated better, but the fact remains that they've been supported with a playable range of good models and official rules since their release. It's not a pre-5th Dark Eldar situation where the entire model range was hot garbage and desperately needed an overhaul.

TheTuninator wrote:
Sisters could have been treated better, but the fact remains that they've been supported with a playable range of good models and official rules since their release. It's not a pre-5th Dark Eldar situation where the entire model range was hot garbage and desperately needed an overhaul.

I think most Sisters of Battle players agree that the models we had were very, very well-designed and the aesthetic has held up very well over time.

The issue is just that our army didn't get anything new for 13 years. Players who love to experiment with new units and options didn't get new units or loadout options (though I do recall there was a lot of excitement for Battle Conclaves) to try out. Collectors didn't get anything new to collect. People who love to customize models were hampered by the models all being monopose, solid metal which are difficult to customize at all. New players were turned away by the high prices.

The issue wasn't that what we have in terms of models sucks. They look good, I don't deny that, and I'm 100% hoping the plastics have the same aesthetic designs. It's that the metal models are too expensive and hard to work with, and we didn't get any new toys to play with (though again, we did get Battle Conclaves and they were positively appreciated), and it went on for over a decade while GW created entirely new armies instead of updating one that seriously needed it.

 Pouncey wrote:

If your army had been treated like Sisters of Battle had, you would be just as damned negative as Sisters of Battle players are, and exactly as unwilling to trust GW. Just imagine how pissed you'd be if your army had been using only the models they had in 3rd edition and earlier, up until the present day.

You would be just as pissed as we've been. You simply don't understand because you've never tried to understand. You've never imagined how you might feel in the Sisters of Battle's place. You've never cared to try to understand where that hate comes from. It is completely justified.

Nope not at all. I am also an wfb battle bretonnia player or at least I used to be. am also a rakham player..... no need to explain that any further. If GW somehow released a new plastic green knight together with an army list that made it possible to play wrb again, or hell even just new men at arms. I would have reacted in quite an other way than you just did. You are in an extreme luxuary position. Your game is still alive, your codex is in production, you just got a supplement, and there are new models on the horizon and you have access to the disposable money to buy it all. Get a hold of yourself, man / girl up and enjoy the times ahead.
Use that attitude for when times are truly dire.


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Also are you sure that you are a 40k player and not just a 40k mini collector who likes to play other games with those mini's ?

 oldzoggy wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

If your army had been treated like Sisters of Battle had, you would be just as damned negative as Sisters of Battle players are, and exactly as unwilling to trust GW. Just imagine how pissed you'd be if your army had been using only the models they had in 3rd edition and earlier, up until the present day.

You would be just as pissed as we've been. You simply don't understand because you've never tried to understand. You've never imagined how you might feel in the Sisters of Battle's place. You've never cared to try to understand where that hate comes from. It is completely justified.

Nope not at all. I am also an wfb battle bretonnia player or at least I used to be. am also a rakham player..... no need to explain that any further. If GW somehow released a new plastic green knight together with an army list that made it possible to play wrb again, or hell even just new men at arms. I would have reacted in quite an other way than you just did. You are in an extreme luxuary position. Your game is still alive, your codex is in production, you just got a supplement, and there are new models on the horizon and you have access to the disposable money to buy it all. Get a hold of yourself, man / girl up and enjoy the times ahead.
Use that attitude for when times are truly dire.


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Also are you sure that you are a 40k player and not just a 40k mini collector who likes to play other games with those mini's ?

Hey, uh, I have a question for you.

Have you, like, actually seen the posts containing my reaction to the Celestine photograph?

Do you want to?

Like, do you actually care about learning how I reacted to the first plastic Sisters of Battle kit ever, or would you instead prefer to continue imagining how I must have reacted according to your erroneous assumption that I simply enjoy complaining and look for any excuse to do so whatsoever?

 Pouncey wrote:

TheTuninator wrote:
Sisters could have been treated better, but the fact remains that they've been supported with a playable range of good models and official rules since their release. It's not a pre-5th Dark Eldar situation where the entire model range was hot garbage and desperately needed an overhaul.

I think most Sisters of Battle players agree that the models we had were very, very well-designed and the aesthetic has held up very well over time.

The issue is just that our army didn't get anything new for 13 years.

You know, Chaos players would have given you their dinobots and mutilators to have had an army-wide aesthetic that remained constant, in both appearance and theme for 13 gods damned years instead of going from....

Traitor Legions.
Renegades.
Bit of Both.
Lost and the Damned?
TRANSFORMERS, DAEMONS IN DISGUISE.
Traitor Legions again.

The Thousand Sons release was beautiful because GW realised, by this point, that Chaos players were dipping into 30k rather than use the sad excuse of a ramshackle range we currently have and so they made the miniatures very reminiscent of the 30k aesthetic for Mk IV armour and Tartaros terminators.

I can only hope further releases do the same, bringing some semblance of unity to our aesthetic.

But back to this thread.

'You would have been just as pissed as we've been. You simply don't understand because you've never tried to understand'

Which I'm guessing is exactly why every damn Sisters player on this forum was damned and determined to piss all over the CSM playerbase's unrefined joy after seeing the book we've been waiting for, for over a decade finally come to be. Our range is, hilariously, mismatched, half of it was OLDER than your newest parts and we've basically just been gak on by Sisters players the whole damn time.

But I find it somewhat hilarious that an army who have an entire theme consisting of martyrdom and religious self-sacrifice has a playerbase that is outraged that martyrdom and self-sacrifice is a dominant part of what the sisters do in significant events in the game's setting.

I suppose it's like a World Eaters player posting about how there's far too much blood and gore in World Eaters background fluff and how that's just not right.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

TheTuninator wrote:
Sisters could have been treated better, but the fact remains that they've been supported with a playable range of good models and official rules since their release. It's not a pre-5th Dark Eldar situation where the entire model range was hot garbage and desperately needed an overhaul.

I think most Sisters of Battle players agree that the models we had were very, very well-designed and the aesthetic has held up very well over time.

The issue is just that our army didn't get anything new for 13 years.

You know, Chaos players would have given you their dinobots and mutilators to have had an army-wide aesthetic that remained constant, in both appearance and theme for 13 gods damned years instead of going from....

Traitor Legions.
Renegades.
Bit of Both.
Lost and the Damned?
TRANSFORMERS, DAEMONS IN DISGUISE.
Traitor Legions again.

The Thousand Sons release was beautiful because GW realised, by this point, that Chaos players were dipping into 30k rather than use the sad excuse of a ramshackle range we currently have and so they made the miniatures very reminiscent of the 30k aesthetic for Mk IV armour and Tartaros terminators.

I can only hope further releases do the same, bringing some semblance of unity to our aesthetic.

But back to this thread.

'You would have been just as pissed as we've been. You simply don't understand because you've never tried to understand'

Which I'm guessing is exactly why every damn Sisters player on this forum was damned and determined to piss all over the CSM playerbase's unrefined joy after seeing the book we've been waiting for, for over a decade finally come to be. Our range is, hilariously, mismatched, half of it was OLDER than your newest parts and we've basically just been gak on by Sisters players the whole damn time.

But I find it somewhat hilarious that an army who have an entire theme consisting of martyrdom and religious self-sacrifice has a playerbase that is outraged that martyrdom and self-sacrifice is a dominant part of what the sisters do in significant events in the game's setting.

I suppose it's like a World Eaters player posting about how there's far too much blood and gore in World Eaters background fluff and how that's just not right.

No, seriously. Do you actually want to see the first post I made after seeing the Celestine model? Do you want to see how I actually feel about the Celestine leak?

 Pouncey wrote:


No, seriously. Do you actually want to see the first post I made after seeing the Celestine model? Do you want to see how I actually feel about the Celestine leak?

No. Because attempting to defend yourself AFTER stating that you've had a consistent aesthetic in terms of appearance and design for 13 years and then producing THIS old chestnut...

'You would have been just as pissed as we've been. You simply don't understand because you've never tried to understand'

Pretty much is for nothing.

You've already shot yourself in the foot as this thread shows.

It's yet another Sisters' victim complex, yet another bleatfest.

And by the gods it's getting real old.

 Manchu wrote:
... get crushed by Chaos at Cadia?

First off - I love the new kit with Celestine and her Seraphim Guard ... but I wouldn't be a true Sisters fan if I didn't have ... concerns ... about something. And here's what concerns me, aside from still needing to SEE some more plastic Sisters kits: SoB have way too often been the whipping girls for the various enemies of Mankind. The Sisters make a valiant, self-sacrificial last stand against hopeless odds ... in essence, they get Worfed so that whatever flavor of SM shows up to actually save the day gets to really bask in the limelight. It's ... frustrating.

So here is my plea to GW - please please please do not make (or do not have made) Saint Celestine and the SoB the fall girls of Gathering Storm and beyond!

Just be glad you're getting a new codex and new models. I used to play fantasy when skaven still had an 8 page FAQ. Then we had End Times followed by AoS. I can't play 8th at the GW now and the FAQ isn't around anymore which helped tremendously.

I realize Sisters needed new stuff but at least you are getting new stuff. My game is dead and a couple armies got totally squatted (beastmen and bretonnia). Just realize you're getting something and accept it. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

Oh and my first army was guard. They're the punching bags of 40k with space marines glory hogging the day for them every single time. Seriously in our 5th ed army book we only won about half the noted battles.

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Btw with the exception of End Times which wasn't a full blown army release (and we got only vermin lords and stormfiends which were good) we haven't had an update since probably '08. Also no AoS doesn't count. It didn't add both new models and new rules for an existing game. Most of the skaven model line remains the same since '08 or '09.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:


No, seriously. Do you actually want to see the first post I made after seeing the Celestine model? Do you want to see how I actually feel about the Celestine leak?

No. Because attempting to defend yourself AFTER stating that you've had a consistent aesthetic in terms of appearance and design for 13 years and then producing THIS old chestnut...

'You would have been just as pissed as we've been. You simply don't understand because you've never tried to understand'

Pretty much is for nothing.

You've already shot yourself in the foot as this thread shows.

It's yet another Sisters' victim complex, yet another bleatfest.

And by the gods it's getting real old.

Really? You don't even want to, like, read it? I can go find the link, it's not a very long post.

Also, you sound pretty upset at your own model range. Maybe we're more alike than we think, we simply have different issues with our model ranges and our own personal preferences lead us to want what the other one got. I mean, people like different things. You like a consistent aesthetic and don't care about getting new models at all, so if you liked Sisters of Battle and not Chaos you'd've been happy. I like getting lots of new kits to kitbash together and convert models, so if I liked Space Marines I'd've been happy.

But really we both like our factions for reasons that make it so we don't even entertain the idea of switching to the army that's getting the kind of model range we want. So we're both deeply unhappy with our model ranges, for different reasons, because we prioritize different things.

Your issue with Sisters of Battle complaints is really just that you haven't considered maybe other people want something different out of their models, so you never considered that maybe Sisters of Battle players who are upset with the lack of updates might've been just fine if we'd gotten updates, even if they changed our aesthetic in some ways.


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 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
... get crushed by Chaos at Cadia?

First off - I love the new kit with Celestine and her Seraphim Guard ... but I wouldn't be a true Sisters fan if I didn't have ... concerns ... about something. And here's what concerns me, aside from still needing to SEE some more plastic Sisters kits: SoB have way too often been the whipping girls for the various enemies of Mankind. The Sisters make a valiant, self-sacrificial last stand against hopeless odds ... in essence, they get Worfed so that whatever flavor of SM shows up to actually save the day gets to really bask in the limelight. It's ... frustrating.

So here is my plea to GW - please please please do not make (or do not have made) Saint Celestine and the SoB the fall girls of Gathering Storm and beyond!

Just be glad you're getting a new codex and new models. I used to play fantasy when skaven still had an 8 page FAQ. Then we had End Times followed by AoS. I can't play 8th at the GW now and the FAQ isn't around anymore which helped tremendously.

I realize Sisters needed new stuff but at least you are getting new stuff. My game is dead and a couple armies got totally squatted (beastmen and bretonnia). Just realize you're getting something and accept it. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

Oh and my first army was guard. They're the punching bags of 40k with space marines glory hogging the day for them every single time. Seriously in our 5th ed army book we only won about half the noted battles.

You, uh, should probably look at the examples you're picking for armies and games that were treated worse than Sisters of Battle, and consider what they have in common.

WHFB, Beastmen, Bretonnia.

The things all your examples have in common is that they don't exist at all anymore.

That is literally how low you have to set the bar to say Sisters of Battle haven't had it as rough as some others.

I'm saying you're getting something as opposed to be written off entirely. You don't get to complain. I know of others that would kill to be in your position getting an update. In fact as a Fantasy player i'd love to still have the Fantasy setting even if skaven got written off because then i could just play vampire counts or something. I realize you got treated like crap by 40k standards but that's infinitely better than having your entire game setting destroyed and possibly having your army squatted entirely. You can't understand how filled with jealousy i am and yet you continue to complain. I actually considered doing beastmen at one point because i liked the models and one of my friends was actually an avid fan of them. I can only imagine how bad he feels now. Keep in mind he played beastmen and they didn't even get an update in End Times and their army book was about as old as skaven.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
I'm saying you're getting something as opposed to be written off entirely. You don't get to complain. I know of others that would kill to be in your position getting an update. In fact as a Fantasy player i'd love to still have the Fantasy setting even if skaven got written off because then i could just play vampire counts or something. I realize you got treated like crap by 40k standards but that's infinitely better than having your entire game setting destroyed and possibly having your army squatted entirely. You can't understand how filled with jealousy i am and yet you continue to complain. I actually considered doing beastmen at one point because i liked the models and one of my friends was actually an avid fan of them. I can only imagine how bad he feels now.

So again I ask.

Are you really content to merely assume how I feel about the current situation based on your imagination?

Or would you like me to link you the post where I react to the Celestine photo after having seen it for the first time?

Why turn down the opportunity to use the actual facts of that post against me?

 Pouncey wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
I'm saying you're getting something as opposed to be written off entirely. You don't get to complain. I know of others that would kill to be in your position getting an update. In fact as a Fantasy player i'd love to still have the Fantasy setting even if skaven got written off because then i could just play vampire counts or something. I realize you got treated like crap by 40k standards but that's infinitely better than having your entire game setting destroyed and possibly having your army squatted entirely. You can't understand how filled with jealousy i am and yet you continue to complain. I actually considered doing beastmen at one point because i liked the models and one of my friends was actually an avid fan of them. I can only imagine how bad he feels now.

So again I ask.

Are you really content to merely assume how I feel about the current situation based on your imagination?

Or would you like me to link you the post where I react to the Celestine photo after having seen it for the first time?

Why turn down the opportunity to use the actual facts of that post against me?

I don't care. Link it. I'm just saying you guys can't complain. Some GW fans have been treated far worse than Sisters players. I practically left when they murdered Fantasy. You realize i have about 3,000 points of skaven i can never play with again just lying around.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
I'm saying you're getting something as opposed to be written off entirely. You don't get to complain. I know of others that would kill to be in your position getting an update. In fact as a Fantasy player i'd love to still have the Fantasy setting even if skaven got written off because then i could just play vampire counts or something. I realize you got treated like crap by 40k standards but that's infinitely better than having your entire game setting destroyed and possibly having your army squatted entirely. You can't understand how filled with jealousy i am and yet you continue to complain. I actually considered doing beastmen at one point because i liked the models and one of my friends was actually an avid fan of them. I can only imagine how bad he feels now.

So again I ask.

Are you really content to merely assume how I feel about the current situation based on your imagination?

Or would you like me to link you the post where I react to the Celestine photo after having seen it for the first time?

Why turn down the opportunity to use the actual facts of that post against me?

I don't care. Link it. I'm just saying you guys can't complain. Some GW fans have been treated far worse than Sisters players. I practically left when they murdered Fantasy. You realize i have about 3,000 points of skaven i can never play with again just lying around.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/150/711521.page#9089038

You may notice a level of enthusiam and excitement and happiness in that post which you typically do not associate with me.

It's getting to the point where the mods should just consolidate all the SoB salt into one mega whinge thread.

 MarsNZ wrote:
It's getting to the point where the mods should just consolidate all the SoB salt into one mega whinge thread.

It's getting to the point where there is more salt about Sisters salt than there is Sisters salt itself, actually.

 Pouncey wrote:

The constant accusations of "Oh, you're just a jerk who loves to complain," ignores the reality of the situation for me, as that absolutely is not true for me.

One doesn't contradict the other.

As an imperial guard player I can empathize with the feeling that your army only exists so that another army can save them. I would really like to see some more variation in how GW handles its lore and its heroes. Those that save the day are almost always space marines and I'd like the love to be shared a little more so as to give the rest of the armies something to cheer for.

 koooaei wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

The constant accusations of "Oh, you're just a jerk who loves to complain," ignores the reality of the situation for me, as that absolutely is not true for me.

One doesn't contradict the other.

Look, here's my point.

Tons of people have argued with me that I should be happy now that my army's got Celestine on the horizon.

And the point of me offering to link that post I made after I saw that Celestine model is that, YES, I actually AM happy now, which you would KNOW if you read the freaking post I kept offering to link. I even found a clip from the Get Smart movie with the Cone of Silence where Maxwell is promoted to Agent, something he has wanted for a long time, and he takes the control for the cone of silence, activates it so no one can hear him, but it fizzles out, so we get to hear him shout loudly, "I'M SO HAPPY I'M SO HAPPY THIS IS THE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!" I then link the GIF with the enormous text "It's happening!"

Yet you don't freaking KNOW that, because you never cared to actually ask how I feel about it and you never took me up on the offer for me to show you. You just assumed that I was still unhappy despite the update, PURELY because it fits the narrative in your own minds of what all Sisters of Battle players are like. And you ignored REALITY to keep that narrative intact.

When have i ever accused any sob player of being an unjustified complainer?

I miss the WoW talk.

But seriously, hopefully Sisters at least get a Seraphim and sister squad box. Even if they only give it one if each heavy soecialmweapon, you could slowly build those Retributor squads!

 koooaei wrote:
When have i ever accused any sob player of being an unjustified complainer?

The post you quoted there was me saying that I'm not the kind of person who complains for the sake of complaining.

You then tried to tell me that what I said wasn't true.

I play Sisters of Battle.


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 Crazyterran wrote:
I miss the WoW talk.

But seriously, hopefully Sisters at least get a Seraphim and sister squad box. Even if they only give it one if each heavy soecialmweapon, you could slowly build those Retributor squads!

I miss when people around here sympathized with Sisters of Battle players instead of insulting them constantly for talking about their army.

 Pouncey wrote:

I miss when people around here sympathized with Sisters of Battle players instead of insulting them constantly for talking about their army.

Kinda hard to sympathise when every thread about model lines from any other faction, although usually Chaos, would get derailed into "wont someone please think of the Sisters".

 Pouncey wrote:

 MarsNZ wrote:
It's getting to the point where the mods should just consolidate all the SoB salt into one mega whinge thread.

It's getting to the point where there is more salt about Sisters salt than there is Sisters salt itself, actually.

That's called the Principle of Causation.

To the op, it's fall of cadia.

Its the guard that need saving. Pretty sure the sisters are there to help defend the planet.

And with all the new sneakpeaks being released, so far its just looks like a lone celestian, a lone admech dude and a lone inquisitor with a bunch of dark templars.

 MarsNZ wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

I miss when people around here sympathized with Sisters of Battle players instead of insulting them constantly for talking about their army.

Kinda hard to sympathise when every thread about model lines from any other faction, although usually Chaos, would get derailed into "wont someone please think of the Sisters".

You'll have to forgive me for thinking you might be overstating things there. Earlier this week I saw a few people trash-talking Sisters of Battle players for dominating the conversation in pretty much all Codex: Imperial Agents thread, as though it were an unholy sin for Sisters of Battle players to talk at length primarily about the army they themselves play in topics about a multi-faction Codex that included Sisters of Battle as one of the factions in the Codex.


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 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 MarsNZ wrote:
It's getting to the point where the mods should just consolidate all the SoB salt into one mega whinge thread.

It's getting to the point where there is more salt about Sisters salt than there is Sisters salt itself, actually.

That's called the Principle of Causation.

No, I think what's literally happened is that a lot of you guys have started just complaining about Sisters of Battle players incessantly because you have a deep-seated view of them you're unwilling to consider might be wrong. You're just like you think Sisters of Battle players are, only your targets for endless complaints are Sisters of Battle players, not GW.

Over the past week, I've had numerous conversations with you guys that suggests some very unusual things about how you think about Sisters of Battle players. After expressing my jubilation at the Celestine kit, one guy started telling me how unusual it was that I was being happy and excited instead of angry and mopey. It literally never even occurred to him that it was possible that my attitude might change upon witnessing first-hand the start of the army's update in plastics, he believed that even with the plastic updates I would forever be angry and negative.

I've offered to show people how I reacted to the Celestine model after they accuse me of not being happy no matter what. They all flat-out refused to even consider the possibility that a Sisters of Battle player was capable of anything other than complaining about everything.

 Pouncey wrote:

 MarsNZ wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

I miss when people around here sympathized with Sisters of Battle players instead of insulting them constantly for talking about their army.

Kinda hard to sympathise when every thread about model lines from any other faction, although usually Chaos, would get derailed into "wont someone please think of the Sisters".

You'll have to forgive me for thinking you might be overstating things there. Earlier this week I saw a few people trash-talking Sisters of Battle players for dominating the conversation in pretty much all Codex: Imperial Agents thread, as though it were an unholy sin for Sisters of Battle players to talk at length primarily about the army they themselves play in topics about a multi-faction Codex that included Sisters of Battle as one of the factions in the Codex.

Those same Sisters players were trying to take over the conversation in the Traitor Legions thread.

You know, the supplement for a completely different army.

They also tried with Wrath of Magnus - because for some reason they were angry that a campaign focused on Thousand Sons, Tzeentchian Daemons and Space Wolves didn't have new content for Sisters of Battle.

It wouldn't be so bad - except the complaints generally go from 'Sisters never have new models' to 'Sisters never have new rules' and 'OMG Sisters never get represented in fluff.'

And when they DO get represented the immediate response is to throw the teddy out of the pram and scream about not being represented right.

You know why there's salt? Because you do gak like this. Repeatedly. To the point where it's a meme.

Sisters players have become the Tumblrinas of DakkaDakka and that's just sad.


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 Pouncey wrote:

I've offered to show people how I reacted to the Celestine model after they accuse me of not being happy no matter what. They all flat-out refused to even consider the possibility that a Sisters of Battle player was capable of anything other than complaining about everything.

Your offer to show it, desperate as that was, comes out a hell of a lot like the 'I'm not racist, I have black friends' defense.

Your offer was also incredibly pointless - it's not going to magically erase the contradictions you've already produced in this thread alone. You don't get to say 'I'm not negative' and then produce a rant about how everyone else wouldn't understand because they haven't suffered nearly as much as you have. It doesn't work like that. Really.

oldzoggy wrote:[ You are in an extreme luxuary position. Your game is still alive, your codex is in production, you just got a supplement, and there are new models on the horizon and you have access to the disposable money to buy it all. Get a hold of yourself, man / girl up and enjoy the times ahead.
Use that attitude for when times are truly dire.


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Also are you sure that you are a 40k player and not just a 40k mini collector who likes to play other games with those mini's ?

He boasts that he hasn't played 40K in over 2 years. For someone who has "given" up 40K he sure is passionate about something he doesn't care about which he also has claimed.

flamingkillamajig wrote:[I don't care. Link it. I'm just saying you guys can't complain. Some GW fans have been treated far worse than Sisters players. I practically left when they murdered Fantasy. You realize i have about 3,000 points of skaven i can never play with again just lying around.

You can play with them, you just choose not to play with them. Is someone holding a gun to your head that you can't play Age of Sigmar or old editions of Fantasy or use them for something else?

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 MarsNZ wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

I miss when people around here sympathized with Sisters of Battle players instead of insulting them constantly for talking about their army.

Kinda hard to sympathise when every thread about model lines from any other faction, although usually Chaos, would get derailed into "wont someone please think of the Sisters".

You'll have to forgive me for thinking you might be overstating things there. Earlier this week I saw a few people trash-talking Sisters of Battle players for dominating the conversation in pretty much all Codex: Imperial Agents thread, as though it were an unholy sin for Sisters of Battle players to talk at length primarily about the army they themselves play in topics about a multi-faction Codex that included Sisters of Battle as one of the factions in the Codex.

Those same Sisters players were trying to take over the conversation in the Traitor Legions thread.

You know, the supplement for a completely different army.

They also tried with Wrath of Magnus - because for some reason they were angry that a campaign focused on Thousand Sons, Tzeentchian Daemons and Space Wolves didn't have new content for Sisters of Battle.

It wouldn't be so bad - except the complaints generally go from 'Sisters never have new models' to 'Sisters never have new rules' and 'OMG Sisters never get represented in fluff.'

And when they DO get represented the immediate response is to throw the teddy out of the pram and scream about not being represented right.

You know why there's salt? Because you do gak like this. Repeatedly. To the point where it's a meme.

Sisters players have become the Tumblrinas of DakkaDakka and that's just sad.


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I've offered to show people how I reacted to the Celestine model after they accuse me of not being happy no matter what. They all flat-out refused to even consider the possibility that a Sisters of Battle player was capable of anything other than complaining about everything.

Your offer to show it, desperate as that was, comes out a hell of a lot like the 'I'm not racist, I have black friends' defense.

Your offer was also incredibly pointless - it's not going to magically erase the contradictions you've already produced in this thread alone. You don't get to say 'I'm not negative' and then produce a rant about how everyone else wouldn't understand because they haven't suffered nearly as much as you have. It doesn't work like that. Really.

Like I said earlier.

I'm happy about the new models.

But the only armies that can claim worse mistreatment than Sisters of Battle are ones that have been Squatted, so the assertion that all armies are equally as mistreated as Sisters of Battle is erroneous, and it has been such a common statement for people to make that I have a negative reaction to it.

My negativity in this thread is not about the CURRENT situation, it is about the assertion that all armies had it as bad as Sisters.