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Made in gb
Morbid Black Knight





Bristol (UK)

So I've poked around with some possibilities, I can't seem to get a decent Angels Blade formation going with my current models and budget.

So I've come up with this;

+ Baal Strike Force +

Sanguinary Priest
Bolt pistol, jump pack, Valours Edge, melta bombs
101
Joins the S.Guard

Librarian Dreadnought
Heavy flamer
Drop pod
195
Sanguinary discipline

Furioso Dreadnought
Frag cannon, heavy flamer
Drop pod
165

10 man Sanguinary Guard squad
8x swords, 2x power fists, banner
375

10 man Sternguard Veteran squad
5x combi-weapons
Drop pod
305
combat squads, 5x meltas blast a tank, other 5 blast something else.

5 man Scout squad
Camo cloaks, 5x sniper rifles
70

10 man Tactical squad
Heavy flamer, melta gun, melta bombs
Rhino, dozer blade
215

Baal Predator
Dozer blade, storm bolter
145

5 man Devastator squad
4x missile launchers
130

Vindicator
Dozer blade, overcharged engines
135

1846

Any good? One option is replace the Librarian Dreadnought with Dante (attached to S.Guard) then swap the Tacticals Rhino for a drop pod, and sprinkle 15pts around the list?
If not I'd like to scrounge 25pts for mastery level 2 on the Librarian dreadnought, but I'm not what could give to accomodate that? Perhaps fire one of the S.Guard? Then sprinkle some points around
   
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1) Don't use lone psykers

2) Don't use missile launchers that aren't typhoon launchers

3) Don't use lone vindicators

4) Don't use 10 man tac squads

5) Don't use 10 man SG units

6) A list build as an angel's blade is probably better than a Baal strike force.

7) Extreme MSU is the BA game

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/12/29 17:24:28


 
   
Made in gb
Morbid Black Knight





Bristol (UK)

Martel732 wrote:
1) Don't use lone psykers

2) Don't use missile launchers that aren't typhoon launchers

3) Don't use lone vindicators

4) Don't use 10 man tac squads

5) Don't use 10 man SG units

6) A list build as an angel's blade is probably better than a Baal strike force.

7) Extreme MSU is the BA game

A lot of it is making the best of what I have.
When you say use MSUs does combat squading not count for that?

I could drop the libby dread for Dante, and give the tactical squad a drop pod, they can then combat squad upon arrival.
It's either 1 vindicator or 0, I was assuming turn 1 I could put 3-4 AV13 vehicles on the table, so it's no all on the vindicator. If I drop it what do I replace it with?

is number 5 Sternguard or Sanguinary Guard?

The sternguard and devastators are there because there about the only AT I own currently, other option is jump pack assault squads with 2x melta guns.

for 6, as I said I've look at angels blade and I just don't have the means to make it work. Although I could get golden host, lost brotherhood, chapter ancients or archangel intervention to work, I don't have the ability to fill a 1850 list with that stuff
   
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Combat squad helps, but a big feature of 5man squads is they each get their own Rhino, so taking out one Rhino only strands five men.

SG = sanguinary guard

Ah, okay. I even had to buy a regular dread for the Angel's blade
   
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Morbid Black Knight





Bristol (UK)

Martel732 wrote:
Combat squad helps, but a big feature of 5man squads is they each get their own Rhino, so taking out one Rhino only strands five men.

SG = sanguinary guard

Ah, okay. I even had to buy a regular dread for the Angel's blade

If you're running 5 man squads surely a razorback would give you even a single heavy weapon extra?

And I get your point, but I couldn't squeeze out a second transport. I could pod them in then combat squad.
If I drop my Sanguinary guard down to 5 models, I should do what with the points? or just 'combat squad' them? then I'd have to squeeze points for another banner, or leave it
   
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Nah, I fire the heavy flamer and throw a krak grenade out the firing points. No razorback necessary. Plus, I flat out a LOT. 24" in one turn is awesome.

I like naked SG. At 165 pts, they are good enough at what they do but aren't a completely liability if they get hit by an ion accelerator.
   
Made in gb
Morbid Black Knight





Bristol (UK)

Martel732 wrote:
Nah, I fire the heavy flamer and throw a krak grenade out the firing points. No razorback necessary. Plus, I flat out a LOT. 24" in one turn is awesome.

I like naked SG. At 165 pts, they are good enough at what they do but aren't a completely liability if they get hit by an ion accelerator.

so 2 5 man naked S.Guard? S.Priest in one, Dante in the other? Tacticals in the drop pod?
Although I could get another Rhino actually... So 2 5 man squads with H.flamers?
Drop pod would maybe synergise better, allowing me to put 2 down turn 1
   
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Try to use pods in odd numbers for sure.

If you use a SG unit with Dante, you can actually give them infernus pistols because Dante can tank and provide hit and run.
   
 
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