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 BrookM wrote:
If it really is a KS exclusive it would be a dick move, though I'm sure a white knight will be along shortly to explain it all away.

All I can say if KS exclusive only.. fething witches.

The way they always do this is some half-assed "generic" release that might as well have just been in the same blister since it's basically just an arm swap months down the line.

See the recent "Unknown Ranger" model v. the GenCon "Unknown Ranger" or "Axe wielding derpfest Van Zant" v. GenCon Van Zant.

 BrookM wrote:
If it really is a KS exclusive it would be a dick move, though I'm sure a white knight will be along shortly to explain it all away.

All I can say if KS exclusive only.. fething witches.

I wouldn't get to salty on it. It will probably be like the Infinity RPG exclusives with CB releasing their own alternate sculpts a few months after the KS closes. Like the RPG exclusives, the alternate sculpts will probably be out before the KS one.

Still waiting on mine.....

But.. but.. it's not fair! I've been waiting on this mini for months now, just see the previous thread to see how tired people have become of me asking about it every other week.

 BrookM wrote:
But.. but.. it's not fair! I've been waiting on this mini for months now, just see the previous thread to see how tired people have become of me asking about it every other week.

True. But given the difference between the RPG and CB versions of the civilians. Most of the CB releases were better than the RPG exclusives. Think only the Aleph and Nomad ones were better for the RPG. The pilot will probably have an alternate weapon or have a hacker hand for the CB release and it will be out before this one

 silent25 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
But.. but.. it's not fair! I've been waiting on this mini for months now, just see the previous thread to see how tired people have become of me asking about it every other week.

True. But given the difference between the RPG and CB versions of the civilians. Most of the CB releases were better than the RPG exclusives. Think only the Aleph and Nomad ones were better for the RPG. The pilot will probably have an alternate weapon or have a hacker hand for the CB release and it will be out before this one

The difference is the civilians served no in-game purpose.

We've been down this road too many times for me to really give them a "pass" on this crap. Every single damn one of these "alternate sculpts" should have been general releases or buildable with the general release. The vast majority are just arm/head swaps.

It's disgustingly old-school GW.

From Infinity official site ^^ pretty faithful to the concept art.

Why are Corvus so invested in the idea of Limited Editions? It's been like this for as long as I can think back.

They seem to have changed gear and gone for alternate sculpts to save on resources(probably in response to the fans) but it hasn't helped at all.

I feel like "Early Release" might be a system we could all get on board with. Six months to a year before the model becomes available for retail would be fine with me. It should cover ITS winners models and stuff too. I'm not much for actual gaming and I hate that there are models I just can't have unless I throw away serious cash on an ITS pack.

The O-Yoroi itself seems fine. Paint the skin like a textile and she's combat ready. It's quite an understated pose which is nice to see sometimes. The hair blowing in the wind gives a nice sense of movement to an otherwise stationary pose. Thumbs up from me.

 BrookM wrote:
But.. but.. it's not fair! I've been waiting on this mini for months now, just see the previous thread to see how tired people have become of me asking about it every other week.

Apparently there will be a general release of the mini, according to the Luxumbra people. What it may look like, and when it is released However, given that the O-Yoroi pilot is somewhat iconic for CB-- they even have a large O-Yoroi pilot banner hanging up in their offices, and I mean large banner.. photo here, https://www.instagram.com/p/7pv-B3gCcX/ -- I suspect the only difference is going to be the arms. If it is anything like the difference between the RPG civilian minis and the regular releases, the CB regular release will be better than the Luxumbra LE release.

However... what an unwise way to have handled this. This reeks of a last minute decision. CB needs to get the TAG pilots released before the end, well before the end, of the TAGline tournament season or so one would think.

Now, Where is that Govad HMG?

 Red Harvest wrote:

Now, Where is that Govad HMG?

It's a March release, so we'll see it sometime before then.

I know. We are supposed to see it this month. But given how much of this month is, oh, not interesting ( to me)...

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's disgustingly old-school GW.

No, old school The Games Workshop™ actually gave away (gasp!) LE releases directly, not via 3rd parties. True, and I have several of them from various Games Days.

Lots o edits. Friday Brain. Sigh.

 Zewrath wrote:
Why not the HMG version though? Isn't that what everyone and their cat is using?

Actually I moved over the FO lately, more flexible and survivable for triads

Missile launcher is a close second.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:

 Zewrath wrote:
Why not the HMG version though? Isn't that what everyone and their cat is using?

Actually I moved over the FO lately, more flexible and survivable for triads

Missile launcher is a close second.

It's not what we play...

So the Oyori pilot in the KSer is their 75mm figure they talked about which means everyone can calm down and only complain about LE's outside of KSer.

the O-Yoroi Pilot is the first model from their 75mm miniatures range

http://infinitythegame.com/article.php?id=287

 Monkeysloth wrote:
So the Oyori pilot in the KSer is their 75mm figure they talked about which means everyone can calm down and only complain about LE's outside of KSer.

the O-Yoroi Pilot is the first model from their 75mm miniatures range

http://infinitythegame.com/article.php?id=287

Read that again.

One of the many surprises that Luxumbra has prepared for us is an unlockable of the 32 mm exclusive version of the O-Yoroi Pilot, ideal to play using the new ITS rules where, because of the TAGLINE Effect, all Pilots have a special presence now.

Infinity is 32mm now? Battlefoams must be getting to their heads.

Now? It's been 32mm for a good while. Good to see that CB has recognized it. I think that the shortest human sized mini was the old Najjarun Engineer at 29mm tall. I could be mistaken. Most of the other minis I have are 34mm+ tall. (generally this means 32mm to the eyes.)

Yeh Kan's right, both a 32mm and a 75mm in the kickstarter. I'd rather it was just the 75mm to be honest although the lack of pricing suggests Corvus might be throwing a 32mm into every purchase? Seems very generous though.

I still think 1 year pre release would be better than Limited Editions, I don't mind waiting for access, I do mind being denied access. Even if it's just an arm swap.

You again?! I'm outside your window.

Pretty sure they're reading this... I'm not crazy.

 Casey's Law wrote:
Yeh Kan's right, both a 32mm and a 75mm in the kickstarter. I'd rather it was just the 75mm to be honest although the lack of pricing suggests Corvus might be throwing a 32mm into every purchase? Seems very generous though.

I still think 1 year pre release would be better than Limited Editions, I [i]don't[/] mind waiting for access, I do mind being denied access. Even if it's just an arm swap.

They've ramped up LE models since you left. Most are based around pre orders, others are outright sold for a short time or tournament prize support. Since 3rd edition, there's been:

Pre orders (not available later with alternate arms, straight up only available once)
Authorised Bounty Hunter in Heavy Armour, pre order bonus with the N3 rulebook.
Corporate Security Unit, pre order bonus ith Ice Storm..
Dismounted Maverick, pre order bonus with the USAriadna army box.
Druze with Killer Hacking Device, pre order bonus with Human Sphere N3.
Yuan Yuan, pre order with Red Veil.
Joan of Arc, pre order with Angels first book.
Imperial Agent Pheasant Rank, pre order with Angels second book.

Sold (released later with alternate arms)
Unknown Ranger, at Gencon and webstore during that weekend.
Van Zant, at Gencon and webstore during that weekend.
Achilles, 10th anniversary edition. Box had both the general release and the model with alternate arms holding the Morat head.

Limited to boxes (specific loadout limited to box, other loadouts sold separately)
Reverend Healer Combi Rifle, Ice Storm.
Father Knight, Ice Storm.
Devil Dog Heavy Pistol, USAriadna army box
Al Fasid HMG, Red Veil.
Ninja Tactical Bow, Red Veil.

ITS prizes (released later with alternate arms)
Max Scorpio, 2013.
Authorised Bounty Hunter with Sniper Rifle, 2014.
Armand Le Muet, 2015.
Krakot Renegade, 2016.
Joe Turner dismount, 2017.
Tony Macayana, TAGLine 2017.

Other
Ghulam HMG, N3 style Ghulam with N1/2 style HMG. Given out to people at a convention (I can't remember which).

Authorised Bounty Hunter was later released as the ABH on bike. Sniper has the intent between the legs for the seat as well, so that was planned. Tony Macayana is alternate arms for the already released Tikbalang.

So uh, yeah. Don't hold your breath on doing less or no more LE models. They seem to enjoy the process. Personally I really want a CSU, but I didn't want it enough to buy Icestorm just for it, and on ebay they are going to bonkers money.

 -Loki- wrote:

ITS prizes (released later with alternate arms)
Authorised Bounty Hunter with Sniper Rifle, 2015.
Krakot Renegade, 2016.
Joe Turner dismount, 2017.
Tony Macayana, TAGLine 2017.

Nice list, and please don't take this a I am picking on you, but wasnt Armand Le Muet 2015 and ABH before that? like 2013 with the Max Scorpio ABH in 2014? Or am I going crazy?

 Vain wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

ITS prizes (released later with alternate arms)
Authorised Bounty Hunter with Sniper Rifle, 2015.
Krakot Renegade, 2016.
Joe Turner dismount, 2017.
Tony Macayana, TAGLine 2017.

Nice list, and please don't take this a I am picking on you, but wasnt Armand Le Muet 2015 and ABH before that? like 2013 with the Max Scorpio ABH in 2014? Or am I going crazy?

Knew I forgot some! List updated. I probably have some years wrong, but they should all be there now.

Added Achilles as well, and the super rare new Ghulam with old HMG.

Until I did this list it I didn't realize just how many they've done.

Don't forget the Yuanyuan that came with the battlefoam bag.

Oh I know the LE situation well despite my absence. I get my pre-orders from Shae even when I'm not actively participating. This article has been my go to recently as I thin down the pile and shift the ones I don't actually need. It's not complete but helpful at a quick glance to refresh my memory on something.

Corvus aren't on the best trajectory right now but I don't think it would be difficult for them to make alterations. And they seem to be actively reading what people have to say and responding to it so maybe they want to change things. I've got some freshness to the situation right now and it seems optimistic, give it a year and we'll see how bored I am of waiting for improvements.

 -Loki- wrote:

Sold (released later with alternate arms)
Unknown Ranger, at Gencon and webstore during that weekend.
Van Zant, at Gencon and webstore during that weekend.

Minor quibble.
Unknown Ranger has a bit more than just "alternate arms". The head is different, with the GenCon version actually making him y'know..."Unknown" with a half-mask covering his mouth+nose and his goggles down over his eyes.

Additionally, the GenCon version is strictly the Rifle profile. He has his rifle slung on his back, meaning he was meant to represent the Chain of Command profile.
The general release was meant to be the Specialist Operative profile, as it has a Molotok.

I can't see many people being dicks about using the SO profile as CoC since it was an exclusive, but I refuse to buy the general release since I got the far superior looking GenCon version.

I think that Van Zant has a bit more going on as well, but I wasn't able to get one.

 Casey's Law wrote:
Corvus aren't on the best trajectory right now but I don't think it would be difficult for them to make alterations. And they seem to be actively reading what people have to say and responding to it so maybe they want to change things.

I can't say I'd agree with your observation. I don't recall when it was the last time they've put out a video on what they're doing or explaining their thoughts on matters. If they're listening to what people say it's probably during one of their seminars, warcores (people selected by them to do promotion for the game) or Spanish forum. When was the last time Koni made an appearance on Dakka? A simple, "hi", I can't say. Instead of those videos we got articles on their front page, but they're rather bad quality and don't cover the content of those videos.

 Knight wrote:

 Casey's Law wrote:
Corvus aren't on the best trajectory right now but I don't think it would be difficult for them to make alterations. And they seem to be actively reading what people have to say and responding to it so maybe they want to change things.

I can't say I'd agree with your observation. I don't recall when it was the last time they've put out a video on what they're doing or explaining their thoughts on matters. If they're listening to what people say it's probably during one of their seminars, warcores (people selected by them to do promotion for the game) or Spanish forum. When was the last time Koni made an appearance on Dakka? A simple, "hi", I can't say. Instead of those videos we got articles on their front page, but they're rather bad quality and don't cover the content of those videos.

I'd love to see them participate more, they are definitely clamming up and that's not good. What I was referring to was a recent post about Luxumbra's kickstarter which seemed to respond very specifically to concerns and questions raised right here on Dakka. Right down to which words they emboldened it felt like they were reading what was being said and clarifying. What would have been nice was if they acknowledged that it was a response and not just a 'coincidence'. Here is a link.

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Don't forget the Yuanyuan that came with the battlefoam bag.

As I said, this is stuff since N3. Caseys Laws left about then. The BF Yuan Yuan, Gogo Marlene and Miranda Ashcroft were around when he was playing.

Actually quite a lot of companies have been withdrawing from forums as posters lately again. Most are only reading these days. Paint it up to general internet behaviour, but for most it is more trouble than it is worth it. Instead many go for a personal approach wherever they meet their customers which often is way more productive than reading through miles of internet-vitriol.

That´s not accusing anyone, simply a general observation amongst quite some people working in this business.

 -Loki- wrote:

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Don't forget the Yuanyuan that came with the battlefoam bag.

As I said, this is stuff since N3. Caseys Laws left about then. The BF Yuan Yuan, Gogo Marlene and Miranda Ashcroft were around when he was playing.

And I just realised that I never thanked you for posting that list! So thank you, Loki, much appreciated even although I'm up to date. You should post the list in a new thread or something, it's a really handy resource to have around for reference.

Snipershot for this week. Looks mechanical and somewhat utilitarian. Too rugged to be PanO or Aleph. Too clean to be Ariadna. Perhaps Combined?

The Crabbot?