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Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

Starting with just 11 Pinks.

I am thinking 22 models is the max at any give time, or 44 if a double split Herald was in the Pinks
88 if, and only IF somehow all the Pinks were destroyed at once (without killing the Herald too) and the Herald was able to join the new unit of 44 Blues
I don't see anyone ever getting 88 Brims this way though as the units are most likely to be split piecemeal and the Herald can only be in 1 unit at a time.

Does this sound right? I'm planning on getting the new Blue/Brim boxes and trying to plan out how many I would need to go with only 11 Pinks

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Well you did all the relevant math. Not a lot left for other people to do
   
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Well, a Pink Horror splits into two Blue Horrors, so assuming that a single attack kills all 11 Pinks, you'll get 22 Blues. However, I believe there's a formation that doubles this number, meaning you get 4 Blues for every Pink, so you'd have at most 44. Out of that, if you can double-split again, then yes, 88 Brimstone Horrors.

It's not that unlikely either, given that an opponent will try to commit to killing off a unit at a time before risking refocusing on the new horror unit.

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Dallas area, TX

 CrownAxe wrote:
Well you did all the relevant math. Not a lot left for other people to do

Lol. Just checking my math I guess

 Yarium wrote:
Well, a Pink Horror splits into two Blue Horrors, so assuming that a single attack kills all 11 Pinks, you'll get 22 Blues. However, I believe there's a formation that doubles this number, meaning you get 4 Blues for every Pink, so you'd have at most 44. Out of that, if you can double-split again, then yes, 88 Brimstone Horrors.

It's not that unlikely either, given that an opponent will try to commit to killing off a unit at a time before risking refocusing on the new horror unit.

There isn't a formation that does this. It's a Locus that a Herald can take (Creation, I think). Normally Loci only affect the unit they are with, but the Incursion formations allow Heralds to affect all units in their formation.
Contrary to popular believe, this would NOT result in 88 Brims per 11 Pinks, since Brims were never a part of the formation. You can double all the Blues since their parent Pinks are part of the formation, but after that, the Herald must join the Blues to affect them specifically. So in general, Blues to Brims would still be a 1/1 model ratio.

I am also thinking of making a few of the Brimstone models 1 per base and painting them Pink or Blue. That way I could get more models total and use them as "unit filler" for the Pink and Blue units.
Similar to the way unit fillers were using in Fantasy. It would be cool to see Brims alongside their big bros the same way Nurglings do with PBs.

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How big is the board?

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2000(GK allies -Sons of Opet)
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South Africa

Well doing the maths you could technically fit 3504 assuming no terrain and a 25mm base on a usual 6'x4' table.

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Unlimited. If Horrors take damage in Close Combat, and then roll Double 1s on an Instability check, they will Split!, but they will also respawn. This could, in theory, happen an infinite number of times.
   
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Dallas area, TX

Waaaghpower wrote:
Unlimited. If Horrors take damage in Close Combat, and then roll Double 1s on an Instability check, they will Split!, but they will also respawn. This could, in theory, happen an infinite number of times.

I believe the way it is worded, the Pinks have to actually be removed in order to Split. If you roll double 1s, those models are replaced on the board, therefore no longer count as being removed.

And for those of you who commented on the LITERAL max # that could fit, please read my first post. This is assuming you only start with 1 unit of 11.

   
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I'm not sure anyone's gona shoot them. Assault is the way to go and shooting only makes things worse. So, i'd not go above 25-30.

I'd also forego the locus.

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 koooaei wrote:
I'm not sure anyone's gona shoot them. Assault is the way to go and shooting only makes things worse. So, i'd not go above 25-30.

I'd also forego the locus.

Assault isn't always an option for some army lists (although it should be). But yeah, if you only have 1 unit of Pinks, then you could ignore them until you can get something in CC with them.

A horror-fying list would be a Warpfalme host with 9 units of 11 Horrors and a Herald with the Creation locus. Unless you have a lot of CC units, you'll have not choice but to shoot some of them.
It would be tourture to play with and against, but I could see a list like that upsetting a tourney. Maybe not winning it, but certainly affecting the outcome

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Well, than you allready know the answer. 11 pinks, 22/44* blues, 22/88* brimstones. And you need them all cause they're different models. So, 55/143* models total with max 22/88* being on board. Ork $ per pts ratios don't seem so bad now, do they?

* - second result if you take locus of moneycreation


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So, around the $ cost of 3 imperial knights. 99 pts well spent.

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