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I'm new to Age of Sigmar and also never played Warhammer Fantasy. I play Warhammer 40k and am wanting to try something new. I am not interested in playing this game competitively and want to have fun both playing and painting. I have a single model of the Seraphon and really like the look but know very little about them. I do know that I would like to team up with another faction and don't mind going between faction orders. However, I do know that I do not wish to play Stormcast Eternals as that is all I really see people play.
Importance: At the end of investing into the models, books, and game I would like my army to make sense both tactically and story driven. The rule of cool is important but at the same time I don't want to be stomped or I don't want to be TFG!
Welcome to the game. I'm a new player as well and have a lot of fun so far both painting and playing. I would say the rule of cool is an underlying philosophy in AoS. In terms of army construction it's a lot more liberal then 40k. You've got a lot of latitude, espeshally within each grand alliance to build what you want. There are buffs and benefits that you can gain by sticking to one faction or race within an alliance but it's up to you if you feel those benefit you enough.
I'd download the app (all the war scrolls are their for free) and see what you like in terms of rules and models.
Well, I'm new myself (looking to get my first game in on Wednesday), but based on what I've managed to gather so far, here's my advice:
You'll want to stick with a single order, obviously. If you intend on mixing the factions within your alliance, you'll at least want to start with a faction that has general battleline troops that you like. It'll give you a solid core that will allow you to expand in any direction that suits your fancy.
If your intent is to start with Seraphon, then a couple units of Saurus Warriors provides a battleline unit that you can add just about anything to. Someone who knows more about the Seraphon themselves would be able to give far better advice beyond that, so I'll stop there on that.
As far as value for money, the Get Started! boxes are quite good, with each one usually having somewhere around 500 points worth of models, give or take depending on the box. Assuming that those models are ones that you actually want, they're a fantastic place to start out.
For Rule of Cool I have picked Icewind Assault. https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/beastclaw-raiders-icewind-assault these are Canadian prices so I am guessing they will be a bit cheaper for you. I didn't like them when it wasn't Icewind Assault, but something clicked for me when they added the winter theme to them and I LOVE THEM now.
When I can afford it again, I want to get another two sets. All I see with this is Empire Strikes Back and Lord of the Rings: Return of the King. Seeing the wall of AT ATs or the War Mumaks coming from a distance all in line. Now to me that is Rule of Cool. They are Destruction.
What is your play style? Are you a shooty person or an assaulty person? Few elites or a horde army? Maybe a combination of all? Is magic important to you? Beastclaw Riders is what the Icewind Assault army is called. They don't have anything that I know of in magic. So not sure if that is important or not. I really like the fluff and playstyle.
They have a bit of range but not much and are more of an assaulty army with a few big minis.
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Read here so you can read the fluff on a lot of armies.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
Nice to see new players coming in. I really hope you all enjoy it.
Grensche wrote: Hello, I'm new to Warhammer in general. I've been thinking of trying out AoS for awhile. Is there small skirmishes?
I would like to do small battles with maybe a handful of units. Is this possible?
Can you play small skirmishes? I think that depends. What is a skirmish game to you? Do you mean a small point game or each mini can do what ever it wants and acts independently?
First of as for small point games, Yes you can play small point games. As usual it all depends on the person you play. In my play group most people want to play with the Generals Handbook and a minimum of 1000 points, BUT if you can find the right minded person, you can play any points you want or in my case no points at all.
Second, in Age of Sigmar, your units need to be within 1" of each other. So I am not sure if this doesn't make it a skirmish game or not. Units of one of course act independently, but units of 2 or more, act as a unit, and need to be within 1" of each other and do everything together. You can attack different units at the same time though if you are within range. So does this count as a skirmish game for you or not?
The other day someone was just getting into Age of Sigmar. I played to what he basically had 440 points to make it more fair and we had a great time. Thing is, this is basically 2 or 3 units and that is it. But it is perfectly playable and we had fun.
I hope this helps.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
Davor wrote: Nice to see new players coming in. I really hope you all enjoy it.
Grensche wrote: Hello, I'm new to Warhammer in general. I've been thinking of trying out AoS for awhile. Is there small skirmishes?
I would like to do small battles with maybe a handful of units. Is this possible?
Can you play small skirmishes? I think that depends. What is a skirmish game to you? Do you mean a small point game or each mini can do what ever it wants and acts independently?
First of as for small point games, Yes you can play small point games. As usual it all depends on the person you play. In my play group most people want to play with the Generals Handbook and a minimum of 1000 points, BUT if you can find the right minded person, you can play any points you want or in my case no points at all.
Second, in Age of Sigmar, your units need to be within 1" of each other. So I am not sure if this doesn't make it a skirmish game or not. Units of one of course act independently, but units of 2 or more, act as a unit, and need to be within 1" of each other and do everything together. You can attack different units at the same time though if you are within range. So does this count as a skirmish game for you or not?
The other day someone was just getting into Age of Sigmar. I played to what he basically had 440 points to make it more fair and we had a great time. Thing is, this is basically 2 or 3 units and that is it. But it is perfectly playable and we had fun.
I hope this helps.
This is exactly what I'm looking for. Sorry I'm horrible trying to explain what I want. 2 or 3 unit game is exactly what I'm looking for, but from what you're saying it sounds like 1000 is the standard.
Reason why I was asking about playing small games is because I wanted to start small and get used to playing the game before expanding my army. I hop that made sense lol :-)
Grensche wrote: Hello, I'm new to Warhammer in general. I've been thinking of trying out AoS for awhile. Is there small skirmishes?
I would like to do small battles with maybe a handful of units. Is this possible?
If you go by pitched rules (points) then 4-500p is usualy 1 hero, 2 batteline units(5-10 models per batteline) and 1 additional unit.
Aos has no real skirmish setting but you can play whit armys that has low amount of models. generaly 1 of these do the same job as say 3-5 standard lower models.
if you want an army that is small in numbers get ogors and beastclaw riders for destruction. i dont play them but i have seen them in action and up to atleast 1000p they can be pretty nasty. however whit sutch low amount of models it is easy to loose the game if you dont think straight.
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Grensche wrote: Hello, I'm new to Warhammer in general. I've been thinking of trying out AoS for awhile. Is there small skirmishes?
I would like to do small battles with maybe a handful of units. Is this possible?
If you go by pitched rules (points) then 4-500p is usualy 1 hero, 2 batteline units(5-10 models per batteline) and 1 additional unit.
Aos has no real skirmish setting but you can play whit armys that has low amount of models. generaly 1 of these do the same job as say 3-5 standard lower models.
if you want an army that is small in numbers get ogors and beastclaw riders for destruction. i dont play them but i have seen them in action and up to atleast 1000p they can be pretty nasty. however whit sutch low amount of models it is easy to loose the game if you dont think straight.
Ah ok, a 4-500p army would be ideal for me, thinking newbie start wise. I'll have to take a look at armies. I'm a sucker for Orcs, whether 40k Orkz or AoS Orcs. I just LOVE Orcs!!
Sorry for stealilng OP's thread, I didn't want to make a new thread with the same questions. Figured I could piggy back off of an existing one.
Btw Grensche, If you're looking into ordinary greenskins and not Ironjawz or Bonesplitterz and you're not that into the comedy, exaggerated features of the old orks, you could take a look at Mantic's orcs. They are mean looking, nicely cast, cheaper and IMO stand better next to the other new miniatures like stormcasts and bloodbound. I just don't think that regular greenskins will ever see any new kits with the old esthetic though probably old ones will stay in production as direct order. Their major downside is that they are not that varied in terms of available poses and customisation. Other than this, I'm a big fan of the line. Just stay away from the line infantry goblins
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Fafnir wrote:One of the Start Collecting! boxes will have pretty much everything you need to run a small game. The boxes range from 400-700 points each.
I was thinking of the idea of getting a Start Collecting! box set of Greenskinz. The point total is perfect for a newbie like me!
CoreCommander wrote:Btw Grensche, If you're looking into ordinary greenskins and not Ironjawz or Bonesplitterz and you're not that into the comedy, exaggerated features of the old orks, you could take a look at Mantic's orcs. They are mean looking, nicely cast, cheaper and IMO stand better next to the other new miniatures like stormcasts and bloodbound. I just don't think that regular greenskins will ever see any new kits with the old esthetic though probably old ones will stay in production as direct order. Their major downside is that they are not that varied in terms of available poses and customisation. Other than this, I'm a big fan of the line. Just stay away from the line infantry goblins
Oh man, I just took a look at Mantic's Orcs for Kings of War and I'm impressed, I never heard of Kings of War until just now. It's been so long since I played a table top game lol. I don't want to get too distracted, I already have 40k Orks that I need to paint and look up on the latest rules and codex. Definitely will look into Mantic's Kings of War.
Davor wrote: Nice to see new players coming in. I really hope you all enjoy it.
Grensche wrote: Hello, I'm new to Warhammer in general. I've been thinking of trying out AoS for awhile. Is there small skirmishes?
I would like to do small battles with maybe a handful of units. Is this possible?
Can you play small skirmishes? I think that depends. What is a skirmish game to you? Do you mean a small point game or each mini can do what ever it wants and acts independently?
First of as for small point games, Yes you can play small point games. As usual it all depends on the person you play. In my play group most people want to play with the Generals Handbook and a minimum of 1000 points, BUT if you can find the right minded person, you can play any points you want or in my case no points at all.
Second, in Age of Sigmar, your units need to be within 1" of each other. So I am not sure if this doesn't make it a skirmish game or not. Units of one of course act independently, but units of 2 or more, act as a unit, and need to be within 1" of each other and do everything together. You can attack different units at the same time though if you are within range. So does this count as a skirmish game for you or not?
The other day someone was just getting into Age of Sigmar. I played to what he basically had 440 points to make it more fair and we had a great time. Thing is, this is basically 2 or 3 units and that is it. But it is perfectly playable and we had fun.
I hope this helps.
This is exactly what I'm looking for. Sorry I'm horrible trying to explain what I want. 2 or 3 unit game is exactly what I'm looking for, but from what you're saying it sounds like 1000 is the standard.
Reason why I was asking about playing small games is because I wanted to start small and get used to playing the game before expanding my army. I hop that made sense lol :-)
That is what I thought you ment but just wanted to make sure. Yes it's very playable. Try not to label everybody with the same brush. You might find people who will help people get started but at least you are on the right thinking of not getting disappointed. Just be aware we are in the rare breed of playing small points or no points at all and just have fun. Can you see how are people in your area and see how they play. Just ask around.
Also you are doing it properly. Start small. Start slow and once built up you buy more. I started to fast, bought to much and have nothing done. So you are on the right path.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
That is what I thought you ment but just wanted to make sure. Yes it's very playable. Try not to label everybody with the same brush. You might find people who will help people get started but at least you are on the right thinking of not getting disappointed. Just be aware we are in the rare breed of playing small points or no points at all and just have fun. Can you see how are people in your area and see how they play. Just ask around.
Also you are doing it properly. Start small. Start slow and once built up you buy more. I started to fast, bought to much and have nothing done. So you are on the right path.
I figured to start small and work my way up as I learn the game would be best. I have 40k Orkz that I bought back during 5th edition. I had a couple friends that were rushing way too fast into the game and I did the same. Long story short, they stopped playing after spending $100's on sets that they didn't fully paint and assembled and ended up selling them.
Me, I bought 1 Assault on Black Reach set and an Orkz codex, later I bought my friend's Orkz from his Assault on Black Reach set. I never gotten around to playing an official game, just a couple games with those two friends. Anyways, for years I would paint off and on. Even though I still love the game, I wish I would've came to the hobby in a different way instead of chasing after my friends trying to keep up to only have it crash and burn.
Grenache, have you gotten the Age of Sigmar cards that someone on this site made? I found they have helped me a lot. It's nice to have smaller cards instead of pages printed out.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
Go to that thread Grensche and then follow the link there. So I don't know why, so much easier with cards than sheets of printed paper or books. I guess it so much less clutter that it helps.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
Grensche wrote: This is awesome!! That's what I definitely need, I can't multitask for the life of me. These cards would help out a lot, thank you!!
You are welcome. I can't multi task either.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
