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Frazzled wrote: Define state university. The flagship university, it will be the opposite of help.
The flagships are generally in the Tippitty-top schools in the region. Not talking about those...
In Missouri, our state schools are in the "University of Missouri System"...
The flagship is Columbia, MO (Mizzou).
Other "University of Missouri System" are Missouri State, NW Missouri and UMSL. <--- these schools gives you more bang for the buck than going to the flagship (Mizzou) schools.
...and don't get me started on the private schools... Washington University and SLU costs insane amount EACH YEAR!... only go there if on scholarships.
Frazzled wrote: Define state university. The flagship university, it will be the opposite of help.
Think public collage, like the SUNY system in NY.
I think we're all on the same page.
California has two state school systems. As an exmaple, lots of kids go from Jr. College to Cal State schools. In my day, you could apply but you wouldn't get into a U. of Cali school to finish your undergrad.
on the flip side what matters more now is your standing and what you did so you can get into a good grad school.
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Wesleyan Media Project shares lessons, analysis from 2016 election cycle
(MIDDLETOWN, CT) March 6, 2017 – The 2016 presidential campaign broke the mold when it comes to patterns of political advertising. But, in a new publication, the Wesleyan Media Project directors say “Not so fast” to those who argue that advertising no longer matters in elections.
The article published in The Forum: A Journal of Applied Research in Contemporary Politics (open access through mid-April 2017) shows that the presidential race featured far less advertising than the previous cycle, a huge imbalance in the number of ads across candidates, and one candidate who almost ignored discussions of policy. Yet, at the congressional level, political advertising appeared far more ordinary. The authors share lessons about advertising in the 2016 campaign, and argue that its seeming lack of effectiveness may owe to the unusual nature of the presidential campaign with one nonconventional candidate and the other using an unconventional message strategy.
Furthermore, the authors demonstrate that:
1) Clinton’s unexpected losses came in states in which she failed to air ads until the last week.
See Figure 4 below, which shows the number of pro-Trump and pro-Clinton ads aired on broadcast television during each week, both overall (top left panel) and in three key states.
2) Clinton’s message was devoid of policy discussions in a way not seen in the previous four presidential contests.
Other big lessons drawn in the paper include:
The impact of advertising may depend on the larger media environment and knowledge of the candidates. Ie. It’s much more difficult for advertising to have an impact in a media environment that is saturated with sensational media coverage of the campaign—and of two already well-known candidates—but that does not mean that all advertising fails to work.
Message matters, and a message repeated endlessly does no good unless it resonates with a sufficient number of the right voters. Team Clinton’s message that Trump was unfit for the presidency may not have been enough.
What happens at the presidential level does not always follow down ballot.
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Also available:
Big picture data on ad airings and spending in the 2015-16 cycle
The increasing importance of local cable buys as a complement to traditional broadcast airings
Tone and focus of presidential ads compared to previous elections
The continued importance of outside groups as sponsors of political advertising, and the declining role played by political parties
Traditional patterns followed in Senate/House race advertising
The Clinton campaign’s overwhelming dominance of advertising, and its efforts in key states. See Figure 3 and note that this map masks important variations over time. For example, although Michigan is blue in the map, Clinton’s advantage came only in the last week of the campaign (see Figure 4 above).
Full text of the article is available via The Forum (open access through mid-April 2017)
Ustrello wrote: One good way is to go to a community college for your associates degree, it saves you a gak ton of money
Yes, but it won't help you to get into a Tier 1 school.
Have to disagree. Went to a community college, didn't wait to get the associates, but transferred to a Tier 1 school after 45 hours. The only trick was making sure that the courses I chose to take at a community college would transfer and getting good grades.
In fact, it sometimes is easier transferring in as a sophomore or Junior into a Tier 1, e.g. UT and Texas A&M, from a community college as by that time, there are more spots open as a result of the students who were admitted straight out of High School dropping out, transferring, or changing majors. Also, I have been told repeatedly that from an admissions perspective, that JC's transfers are seen as a lower risk than Freshmen as they have already established and demonstrated their ability at the college level.
Going through the process now with my high school age daughter, and the community college for lower division courses before transferring to her 4 yr school of choice is looking even more appealing now than when I did it because of the cost factor. In Texas the difference between your first two years at UT and a community college almost half and if considering a private or out of state school, the cost savings can be staggering.
Tuition (not room and board, just tuition) was going to be $60K for four years. Take If she takes the first two years at community college, it drops to $25K.
I firmly believe the government interference in the student loan market has significantly contributed to the inflation in secondary education and the student loan bubble because it made such loans much easier to get. When the schools figured out how easy the government was making it for students to get student loans, tuitions skyrocketed. It was particular appalling to me that individuals were able to get loans for degrees for which the well-established median incomes unequivocally showed that they stood very little chance of earning a salary that would allow them to pay back the loans.
Yes, student loans are hard to means test in the same way you do a car loan or home loan. But the BLS and their corresponding state counterparts know what the average salary is and how many job openings there in a given field to give any perspective student and their lender enough information to assess whether or not that degree in gender studies is likely to lead to the type of job that can afford the loan payments required to pay back the student loan in a reasonable time frame.
Now, in addition to the finanical strain on individuals, the taxpayers like me are having to foot the bill for bailouts, writeoffs, and incresed federal and state funding to higher ed for this irresponsible borrowing and lending.
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Ustrello wrote: One good way is to go to a community college for your associates degree, it saves you a gak ton of money
Yes, but it won't help you to get into a Tier 1 school.
Have to disagree. Went to a community college, didn't wait to get the associates, but transferred to a Tier 1 school after 45 hours. The only trick was making sure that the courses I chose to take at a community college would transfer and getting good grades.
In fact, it sometimes is easier transferring in as a sophomore or Junior into a Tier 1, e.g. UT and Texas A&M, from a community college as by that time, there are more spots open as a result of the students who were admitted straight out of High School dropping out, transferring, or changing majors. Also, I have been told repeatedly that from an admissions perspective, that JC's transfers are seen as a lower risk than Freshmen as they have already established and demonstrated their ability at the college level.
Going through the process now with my high school age daughter, and the community college for lower division courses before transferring to her 4 yr school of choice is looking even more appealing now than when I did it because of the cost factor. In Texas the difference between your first two years at UT and a community college almost half and if considering a private or out of state school, the cost savings can be staggering.
Tuition (not room and board, just tuition) was going to be $60K for four years. Take If she takes the first two years at community college, it drops to $25K.
I firmly believe the government interference in the student loan market has significantly contributed to the inflation in secondary education and the student loan bubble because it made such loans much easier to get. When the schools figured out how easy the government was making it for students to get student loans, tuitions skyrocketed. It was particular appalling to me that individuals were able to get loans for degrees for which the well-established median incomes unequivocally showed that they stood very little chance of earning a salary that would allow them to pay back the loans.
Yes, student loans are hard to means test in the same way you do a car loan or home loan. But the BLS and their corresponding state counterparts know what the average salary is and how many job openings there in a given field to give any perspective student and their lender enough information to assess whether or not that degree in gender studies is likely to lead to the type of job that can afford the loan payments required to pay back the student loan in a reasonable time frame.
Now, in addition to the finanical strain on individuals, the taxpayers like me are having to foot the bill for bailouts, writeoffs, and incresed federal and state funding to higher ed for this irresponsible borrowing and lending.
Great observation.
I still say, that school loans need to be dischargable via bankrupties AND (more importantly) put the school who accepted the student on the hook for some of that.
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Ustrello wrote: One good way is to go to a community college for your associates degree, it saves you a gak ton of money
Yes, but it won't help you to get into a Tier 1 school.
Have to disagree. Went to a community college, didn't wait to get the associates, but transferred to a Tier 1 school after 45 hours. The only trick was making sure that the courses I chose to take at a community college would transfer and getting good grades.
In fact, it sometimes is easier transferring in as a sophomore or Junior into a Tier 1, e.g. UT and Texas A&M, from a community college as by that time, there are more spots open as a result of the students who were admitted straight out of High School dropping out, transferring, or changing majors. Also, I have been told repeatedly that from an admissions perspective, that JC's transfers are seen as a lower risk than Freshmen as they have already established and demonstrated their ability at the college level.
Going through the process now with my high school age daughter, and the community college for lower division courses before transferring to her 4 yr school of choice is looking even more appealing now than when I did it because of the cost factor. In Texas the difference between your first two years at UT and a community college almost half and if considering a private or out of state school, the cost savings can be staggering.
Tuition (not room and board, just tuition) was going to be $60K for four years. Take If she takes the first two years at community college, it drops to $25K.
I firmly believe the government interference in the student loan market has significantly contributed to the inflation in secondary education and the student loan bubble because it made such loans much easier to get. When the schools figured out how easy the government was making it for students to get student loans, tuitions skyrocketed. It was particular appalling to me that individuals were able to get loans for degrees for which the well-established median incomes unequivocally showed that they stood very little chance of earning a salary that would allow them to pay back the loans.
Yes, student loans are hard to means test in the same way you do a car loan or home loan. But the BLS and their corresponding state counterparts know what the average salary is and how many job openings there in a given field to give any perspective student and their lender enough information to assess whether or not that degree in gender studies is likely to lead to the type of job that can afford the loan payments required to pay back the student loan in a reasonable time frame.
Now, in addition to the finanical strain on individuals, the taxpayers like me are having to foot the bill for bailouts, writeoffs, and incresed federal and state funding to higher ed for this irresponsible borrowing and lending.
Did you transfer to UT Austin? I would not consider Aggieville, UT Dallas, UT SA, UH, Baylor or UTEP to be Tier 1.
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God, Vaktathi, don't you know anything? "...when the president does it, that means it is not illegal."
Right?
Ustrello wrote:One good way is to go to a community college for your associates degree, it saves you a gak ton of money
That's what I did, it's how I was able to afford grad school, did my first two years of undergrad at a community college.
On a related note, I just finished my last student loan payment last night, as of this morning I am officially debt free. No loans, no credit card balances, no car payments, no mortgage, no medical bills.
#damnitfeelsgoodtobeagangsta.
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights! The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts.
On a related note, I just finished my last student loan payment last night, as of this morning I am officially debt free. No loans, no credit card balances, no car payments, no mortgage, no medical bills.
#damnitfeelsgoodtobeagangsta.
Congrats!
Now you can get those Forgeworld units that you've always been wanting....
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God, Vaktathi, don't you know anything? "...when the president does it, that means it is not illegal."
Right?
Ustrello wrote:One good way is to go to a community college for your associates degree, it saves you a gak ton of money
That's what I did, it's how I was able to afford grad school, did my first two years of undergrad at a community college.
On a related note, I just finished my last student loan payment last night, as of this morning I am officially debt free. No loans, no credit card balances, no car payments, no mortgage, no medical bills.
#damnitfeelsgoodtobeagangsta.
Same I finished my associates am working on my undergrad and I am prepping myself for grad school as we speak
Good call, doing the CC first makes the financial end of all that so much easier, I'd have another three or four years worth of debt otherwise
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
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Frazzled wrote: Define state university. The flagship university, it will be the opposite of help.
The flagships are generally in the Tippitty-top schools in the region. Not talking about those...
In Missouri, our state schools are in the "University of Missouri System"...
The flagship is Columbia, MO (Mizzou).
Other "University of Missouri System" are Missouri State, NW Missouri and UMSL. <--- these schools gives you more bang for the buck than going to the flagship (Mizzou) schools.
...and don't get me started on the private schools... Washington University and SLU costs insane amount EACH YEAR!... only go there if on scholarships.
Frequent lurker, seldom commenter here. As an employee at a UM System school, two of the four you mentioned are not part of UM System. UM System is composed of Mizzou, UMSL, UMKC and Missouri S&T (Which used to be UMR) along with UM Extension and MU Hospitals. Flagship only refers to the main campus (Mizzou). As far as bang for the buck, S&T has a graduation rate on par with privates nationwide, has something like a 90-95% rate of students having firm plans upon graduation, and an average starting salary of $67k ($77k for grad students). In general the outcomes for Mizzou are on par with other state schools, though they suffer because they are considerably larger than many of those other schools and have a more diverse mission because they are a land-grant university. Comparing them solely on undergraduate educational outcomes without factoring in graduate programs, research, etc. is not painting a full picture. Additionally of note, the UM System has always been a big proponent of the A+ program (2 years CC, transfer in to finish) as a way to reduce costs for students. All of this is not to say there's no room for improvement (there certainly is) or that UM System schools are the absolute best publics in the state (Truman holds that honor as far as I am concerned from a very alumni-biased view), just trying to make sure information presented is accurate.
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Frazzled wrote: Define state university. The flagship university, it will be the opposite of help.
The flagships are generally in the Tippitty-top schools in the region. Not talking about those...
In Missouri, our state schools are in the "University of Missouri System"...
The flagship is Columbia, MO (Mizzou).
Other "University of Missouri System" are Missouri State, NW Missouri and UMSL. <--- these schools gives you more bang for the buck than going to the flagship (Mizzou) schools.
...and don't get me started on the private schools... Washington University and SLU costs insane amount EACH YEAR!... only go there if on scholarships.
Frequent lurker, seldom commenter here. As an employee at a UM System school, two of the four you mentioned are not part of UM System. UM System is composed of Mizzou, UMSL, UMKC and Missouri S&T (Which used to be UMR) along with UM Extension and MU Hospitals. Flagship only refers to the main campus (Mizzou). As far as bang for the buck, S&T has a graduation rate on par with privates nationwide, has something like a 90-95% rate of students having firm plans upon graduation, and an average starting salary of $67k ($77k for grad students). In general the outcomes for Mizzou are on par with other state schools, though they suffer because they are considerably larger than many of those other schools and have a more diverse mission because they are a land-grant university. Comparing them solely on undergraduate educational outcomes without factoring in graduate programs, research, etc. is not painting a full picture. Additionally of note, the UM System has always been a big proponent of the A+ program (2 years CC, transfer in to finish) as a way to reduce costs for students. All of this is not to say there's no room for improvement (there certainly is) or that UM System schools are the absolute best publics in the state (Truman holds that honor as far as I am concerned from a very alumni-biased view), just trying to make sure information presented is accurate.
No worries. Higher ed catches a lot of flak. Some deserved, a lot of it based on half truths and really poor data that includes for-profit colleges (which average a 27% 6 year graduation rate), so I am always more than happy to clarify.
Side note, before coming back to MO to work here, I did have an interview for a position at a well-known for-profit college. If you ever want to hate for-profit colleges, sit in on one of those interviews. It is terrifying and very clear that their focus is sales and not education and it made me throw up in my mouth a little.
Ustrello wrote: One good way is to go to a community college for your associates degree, it saves you a gak ton of money
Yes, but it won't help you to get into a Tier 1 school.
Have to disagree. Went to a community college, didn't wait to get the associates, but transferred to a Tier 1 school after 45 hours. The only trick was making sure that the courses I chose to take at a community college would transfer and getting good grades.
In fact, it sometimes is easier transferring in as a sophomore or Junior into a Tier 1, e.g. UT and Texas A&M, from a community college as by that time, there are more spots open as a result of the students who were admitted straight out of High School dropping out, transferring, or changing majors. Also, I have been told repeatedly that from an admissions perspective, that JC's transfers are seen as a lower risk than Freshmen as they have already established and demonstrated their ability at the college level.
Going through the process now with my high school age daughter, and the community college for lower division courses before transferring to her 4 yr school of choice is looking even more appealing now than when I did it because of the cost factor. In Texas the difference between your first two years at UT and a community college almost half and if considering a private or out of state school, the cost savings can be staggering.
Tuition (not room and board, just tuition) was going to be $60K for four years. Take If she takes the first two years at community college, it drops to $25K.
I firmly believe the government interference in the student loan market has significantly contributed to the inflation in secondary education and the student loan bubble because it made such loans much easier to get. When the schools figured out how easy the government was making it for students to get student loans, tuitions skyrocketed. It was particular appalling to me that individuals were able to get loans for degrees for which the well-established median incomes unequivocally showed that they stood very little chance of earning a salary that would allow them to pay back the loans.
Yes, student loans are hard to means test in the same way you do a car loan or home loan. But the BLS and their corresponding state counterparts know what the average salary is and how many job openings there in a given field to give any perspective student and their lender enough information to assess whether or not that degree in gender studies is likely to lead to the type of job that can afford the loan payments required to pay back the student loan in a reasonable time frame.
Now, in addition to the finanical strain on individuals, the taxpayers like me are having to foot the bill for bailouts, writeoffs, and incresed federal and state funding to higher ed for this irresponsible borrowing and lending.
Did you transfer to UT Austin? I would not consider Aggieville, UT Dallas, UT SA, UH, Baylor or UTEP to be Tier 1.
The US News and World Reports rankings include Rice in their Top 20 (UT didn't make the cut), but I am not a big fan of their system, as approximately 20% is a soft score based on opinion polling of the universities.
Really, most accredited universities should be fine and a lot of it just boils down to old fashioned name snobbery (though some universities do have unique strengths- Texas A&M has an excellent veterinary program, for example). Once you are in your profession, experience and drive soon trumps alma matter anyway.
US News and World Report's criteria have been increasingly coming under fire year over year for a number of reasons. In addition to reputation being considered over more concrete factors, there is also a 5% chunk that is rated solely on alumni giving rates. This led to a lot of schools (specifically larger schools) cooking the books and fudging their numbers in various ways, and also unfairly favors private schools who have a much larger fundraising apparatus. To use MO as an example once more, WashU has a fundraising structure comprised of hundreds of people. Truman State University's fundraising group has a staff of about 10.
Mandatory endorsement of Western Governors University for online schooling. They have a limited number of degrees, but if they have what you need I recommend them 100%.
Since we have several people from Texas might as well share this article about Texas and how the current administration may end up being problematic for Texas. I was just going to pm it to someone but since there are enough Texans here I might as well centralize it. It is a story about Texas from a Texas journalist writing for a Texas paper who also lectures at a Texas University. The college thing helps tie to previous posts: synergy! It is a somewhat long read (for an article here) so just sharing link.
I thought the 20% border tariff idea was killed because everyone with a brain realized it was dumb. Is it still in the table?
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Vaktathi wrote: I thought the 20% border tariff idea was killed because everyone with a brain realized it was dumb.
Well, “everyone with a brain realized it” doesn't necessarily implies that any member of the government, let alone Trump himself, realized it, does it?
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
Ustrello wrote: One good way is to go to a community college for your associates degree, it saves you a gak ton of money
Yes, but it won't help you to get into a Tier 1 school.
If you are having trouble paying for college, going to a tier 1 school will not exactly be on your priorities (especially when the education really isn't that much better if you are dedicated).
One thing that I think may be somewhat underestimated is the "leg up" people who do go to those schools have in many ways over those who don't.
I fully agree with, and believe that Yale history isn't much different from U. Washington, Texas, Oklahoma, etc. But what Yale can definitely provide over those other schools is connections. Since I've gotten out of the army, and even before I got out, people were running with the idea that "it's not what you know, but WHO you know that gets you that good job."
What does his position entail? Treasury has a big role in counter terror ops and policy. One of their big departments is the Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence.
That's work for forensic accountants and int commerce lawyers. Dropping a pundit/survivalist in there is more than a bit ridiculous.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
What does his position entail? Treasury has a big role in counter terror ops and policy. One of their big departments is the Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence.
That's work for forensic accountants and int commerce lawyers. Dropping a pundit/survivalist in there is more than a bit ridiculous.
We'll have to disagree. I know for a fact that having an operations guy in analytical organizations geared towards any type of intel/counter terrorism is a good thing. This guy may very well be good for the position they put him in.
You don't like the guy, we get it. You also have NO clue what his actual job is going to entail. The links you or someone else (I'm not gonna go back and look) provided were typical "We don't like Trump and want to poke fun at his choices' and had zero actual info in them. But they did confirm your bias, so hey, you do have that going for you, feth actual info, right?
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
What does his position entail? Treasury has a big role in counter terror ops and policy. One of their big departments is the Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence.
That's work for forensic accountants and int commerce lawyers. Dropping a pundit/survivalist in there is more than a bit ridiculous.
We'll have to disagree. I know for a fact that having an operations guy in analytical organizations geared towards any type of intel/counter terrorism is a good thing. This guy may very well be good for the position they put him in.
You don't like the guy, we get it. You also have NO clue what his actual job is going to entail. The links you or someone else (I'm not gonna go back and look) provided were typical "We don't like Trump and want to poke fun at his choices' and had zero actual info in them. But they did confirm your bias, so hey, you do have that going for you, feth actual info, right?
You may have a point if he actually had any kind of experience in intelligence gathering and analysis, rather than just writing the odd chapter, foreword and occasional full book.
Furthermore that counter terrorism part of the treasury is this:
Terrorism and Financial Intelligence develops and implements U.S. government strategies to combat terrorist financing domestically and internationally, develops and implements the National Money Laundering Strategy as well as other policies and programs to fight financial crimes.
It is entirely devoted to the financial. Having someone who understands and has experience in how the financial sector works, how money can be transferred and what trail that leaves etc. would definitely seem to be a better bet than someone who wrote the odd piece on asymmetrical warfare and latin american governments.
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