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2018/03/31 07:00:14
Subject: Confrontation: Resurrection-Skirimsh and board game confirmed.
Not sure it's fair to call it misleading. PVC plastic is just as much a form of plastic as HIPS. Having backed the last couple of releases from CMON, I'd be more than happy with that level of quality.
2018/03/31 19:46:47
Subject: Confrontation: Resurrection-Skirimsh and board game confirmed.
Mysterio wrote: I suppose we can split hairs, but when someone says "plastic" in this hobby, most people are thinking something closer to HIPs and not PVC.
Maybe in your neck of the woods, but around here we have enough educated people who immediately ask “what type of plastic?” And will keep asking until we get the chemical breakdown, manufacturer name and Material Safety Data Sheets for said plastic.
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14
2018/04/01 00:10:50
Subject: Confrontation: Resurrection-Skirimsh and board game confirmed.
I am expecting plastic one piece minis like the ones Fantasy Flight did with the Cadwallon board game. Not super high quality, but good enough for a big box of minis and a board game like experience.
2018/04/01 17:13:31
Subject: Confrontation: Resurrection-Skirimsh and board game confirmed.
If the Confrontation range would look anything like the images above, I would actually then think that the original move from metal to pre-painted plastic (which resulted in the company going under) was a good move.
Fantasy Flight had them available pre painted at one point but they were really expensive for not being very good. I would probably back for cheaper plastics like the above as I can use them in rpgs and other games.
2018/04/01 20:20:20
Subject: Re:Confrontation: Resurrection-Skirimsh and board game confirmed.
I actually really like those and when painted up they are fine. The Cadwallon RPG allows for some good customizations. I really do prefer the pre painted plastics to my metals.
2018/04/02 13:24:40
Subject: Confrontation: Resurrection-Skirimsh and board game confirmed.
It's still a bit of a strange choice to relaunch a product brand by releasing what is a pretty major release of models and production on a line that is not actually expected to last more than the KS itself.
After the poor choices of going prepainted plastic and in effect killing their own game I guess there's some strong distrust on if they'll make the right choices now.
Hopefully the KS launches with some actual production sculpts to show the new material and detail; although why they are not building hype before the KS with such is a worrying situation (one would think that they'd at least tried and trialed the method to know it works
While the Fantasy Flight plastic stuff isn't bad, it is not what I want from a Confrontation line of miniatures. I came to love the Conf stuff because it was high quality and had an eye for detail. You cannot get that with the stuff FF made. The sculpts were not made with this material in mind, and it shows. It might not be noticeable to everyone, but I know what I want out of this line of models and it isn't anything they can do with soft plastic.
2018/04/02 14:24:24
Subject: Confrontation: Resurrection-Skirimsh and board game confirmed.
I like both the prepainted minis from Ragnarok and the plastic FF ones from Cadwallon. They would appeal to me for a bunch of cheap ready to use out of the box minis. I could get a lot of use out of them.
But... I don't think that would do them any favors for future expanding of the game. Who is this being marketed for? New people for a light game? Existing Players who want more, modelers? I would likely buy it and then throw in a corner and pull out cheap minis as needed. Am I the target audience?
2018/04/02 14:37:21
Subject: Re:Confrontation: Resurrection-Skirimsh and board game confirmed.
It really depends on who they use for the factory, and how the account for PVC shrinkage in converting the sculpts to renders. Most of the sculpts they chose are honestly comparable to stuff I got in The Others//Rising Sun/Mythic Battles. Rackham had visionary design and was among the first to have studio NMM. The technical aspects of the sculpts themselves are fairly average these days.
CMON or Monolith could do this well. To my knowledge, these guys have no experience with PVC or 3d sculpts
2018/04/03 16:01:37
Subject: Confrontation: Resurrection-Skirimsh and board game confirmed.
Interesting part: "What will the stretch goals be? The details of the stretch goals will be revealed soon. We can already confirm that all of the stretch goals will unlock miniatures which will automatically be added to the contents
of the box. It’s worth mentioning again – the clans and the larger pieces will make their appearance!"
Kickstarter + Nostalgia brand + "Plastic" (aka PVC for cost saving production) = something that's becoming to smell funny
I didn't buy this hype about Confrontation's "resurrection" and I'm pretty sure this Kickstarter won't disappoint me on that point.
Wait and see, as always, but I really don't think it will bring back the game we loved years ago (I followed the game from its birth to its death, and even beyond - no matter what the people said, their pre-painted plastic was good - especially the last products just before everything was lost, especially when we saw what was released elsewhere in the years that followed their demise).
2018/04/07 10:43:24
Subject: Confrontation: Resurrection-Skirimsh and board game confirmed.
You can get 3 previously unreleased miniatures for Confrontation with your pledge for this kickstarter if you send through your details to the people running the Kickstarter via email. All information here.
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2018/04/08 03:06:30
Subject: Confrontation: Resurrection-Skirimsh and board game confirmed.
Fenriswulf wrote: You can get 3 previously unreleased miniatures for Confrontation with your pledge for this kickstarter if you send through your details to the people running the Kickstarter via email. All information here.
That's a pretty smart way of gauging interested ahead of time. It's still not enough to drag me in, though, but I a looking orwrad to being able ot get in some games of 3rd ed when it ships. Roll on Resurrection.
The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space.
2018/04/09 06:56:22
Subject: Confrontation: Resurrection-Skirimsh and board game confirmed.
It does dissapoint me that they are only having the one pledge for all 16 facions. I would have expected a single faction pledge, two faction pledge, four, eight and so on...
I'm affraid I wont be able to fork out for the whole thing.
Second concern is that in the latest beasts of war interview, it was stated that this _first_ kickstarter will be for the classic version... I though that resurrection wasnt going to be kickstarter. The way it was worded made me think otherwise :?
At the start of the April Kickstarter, the Confrontation Classic box will contain:
The game rules.
The 16 factions gathered in a single box, and playable with a pool of points.
Meaning 178 unique miniatures.
Two complete Battle sets in order to set up 2 simultaneous games, or one 4-player game.
Of course, this box will be enhanced with all of the stretch goals and bonuses unlocked during the campaign: miniatures, terrain, and other game materiel… And importantly – some stretch goals will be available separately, as Add-ons. The details of these stretch goals will be unveiled during the Kickstarter campaign.
What will the stretch goals be?
The details of the stretch goals will be revealed soon. We can already confirm that all of the stretch goals will unlock miniatures which will automatically be added to the contents of the box. It’s worth mentioning again – the clans and the larger pieces will make their appearance!
What will the rules for Confrontation Classic be ?
We took the decision to keep the historical and well adjusted rules of Confrontation (known as 3.5 by the experts). Most of the Confrontation community knows these rules, and new players can easily get hold of them. Additionnaly, we will also offer experience rules and a campaign mode (Dogs of War, for those of you who already know the game).
How were the 16 selections for Confrontation Classic made?
These starting selections had to fulfill multiple objectives, starting with the fun of discovery and great playability.
What we’ve also taken into consideration:
The best esthetic choices and visual style representative of the faction.
The variety of gameplay unique to each faction, as each one has advantages which should be used as much as possible during skirmishes.
The vote of the fans of the Facebook page to the Confrontation Hall of Fame. Their choices have often reinforced our own choices, and in other cases helped us come to a decision.
The balance of the factions against each other, so that they could face one another in any game combination, meaning exactly 200 duel possibilities! (Approx. 400 points for experienced players).
Finally, each miniature will be playable with the rules for Confrontation Resurrection, coming in 2019!
Will the miniatures be unpainted?
Yes – you’ll have to paint the miniatures, as Confrontation Classic is our way of paying homage to the great historical game from Rackham, and it’s obvious to us that we should offer the models the way players discovered them at the time.
Round base or square base?
Both! In order to allow players to use Confrontation Classic models with all Confrontation games as well as with other miniature wargames or boardgames, the event box will contain both types of bases: round and square.
Anmerkung der Redaktion: Diese Entscheidung ist zumindest zweischneidig, da die klassischen COnfrontation-Regeln eindeutig auf eckige Bases zugeschnitten sind und mit Rundbases schlechter funktionieren.
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What does the Battle Set contain?
The Battle Set contains all you need to prepare your battlefield: a game map and a set of terrain. These terrain pieces will be designed by Thierry Husser. He was part of the Rackham Studio, knows the world of Confrontation, and creates superb terrain for TH Miniatures. We’re elated to count Thierry among our number as we give new life to this wonderful world.
The basic box will contain 2 Battle Sets, which will allow you to play up to 2 games simultaneously. Also, the Battle Set will be available as an Add-on. You’ll thus be able to play from 2 to 4 players, all the way to 16 players with the same basic box, simply by getting extra Battle Sets (which is useful if you’re a gaming club or a convention and want to hold tournaments!).
Will miniatures not present in the Kickstarter also get a profile for Confrontation Resurrection?
At the moment, we’re focusing our efforts on the profiles of the 178 miniatures from the basic box and (of course) those which will be unlocked through stretch goals. If, after the Kickstarter ends, we still have a few left to adapt, we’ll clarify publicly at that time.
The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space.
