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Hi all

I'm thinking of trying out a speeder heavy list not 100% all speeder ( love my black Knights) anyone got any tactics or experience running a speeder heavy type list?

I run speeders in my Space Wolves Ironwolves list.
The only reason I bother with them is the freebie upgrades, otherwise they get expensive really quickly and they go boom really easily.
If you have a plan for spamming them as solo units with one or two three model units thrown in to get the mobility bonuses you might have something truly irritating.
400pts for four speeders with Heavy Bolters and four speeders with Heavy Flamers is a lot of highly mobile firepower, but it's also really fragile.

The Ravenwing Support Squadron is BEEEAAAST, I'd like to say if you run the formation alongside any Ravenwing units in other detachment.

Shrouded from Darkshroud, Strifen run and "support fire" to any Ravenwing unit within 24inch!!!

I once had a game using Ironhand Medusa Strike Force against a DA force, charged a Ravenwing Black Knight with my CM smashbane and his command squad with a Librarian attached and he had a such formation right at 20 inch away. Holy XXX, 6 Assault Cannons and 5 Multimelta supporting fire hitting on 2s! All members in that squad goes down in the combined overwatch, even though they have 2+/3++/2+++ and 3++/3+++. All of them dead!

Neophyte2012 wrote:
The Ravenwing Support Squadron is BEEEAAAST, I'd like to say if you run the formation alongside any Ravenwing units in other detachment.

Shrouded from Darkshroud, Strifen run and "support fire" to any Ravenwing unit within 24inch!!!

I once had a game using Ironhand Medusa Strike Force against a DA force, charged a Ravenwing Black Knight with my CM smashbane and his command squad with a Librarian attached and he had a such formation right at 20 inch away. Holy XXX, 6 Assault Cannons and 5 Multimelta supporting fire hitting on 2s! All members in that squad goes down in the combined overwatch, even though they have 2+/3++/2+++ and 3++/3+++. All of them dead!

there BS 2 for overwatch?

 Formosa wrote:

Neophyte2012 wrote:
The Ravenwing Support Squadron is BEEEAAAST, I'd like to say if you run the formation alongside any Ravenwing units in other detachment.

Shrouded from Darkshroud, Strifen run and "support fire" to any Ravenwing unit within 24inch!!!

I once had a game using Ironhand Medusa Strike Force against a DA force, charged a Ravenwing Black Knight with my CM smashbane and his command squad with a Librarian attached and he had a such formation right at 20 inch away. Holy XXX, 6 Assault Cannons and 5 Multimelta supporting fire hitting on 2s! All members in that squad goes down in the combined overwatch, even though they have 2+/3++/2+++ and 3++/3+++. All of them dead!

there BS 2 for overwatch?

That formation is in Lions blade Detachment (he is taking minimun Battle Demi Company), so it is full BS overwatch.

Neophyte2012 wrote:

 Formosa wrote:

Neophyte2012 wrote:
The Ravenwing Support Squadron is BEEEAAAST, I'd like to say if you run the formation alongside any Ravenwing units in other detachment.

Shrouded from Darkshroud, Strifen run and "support fire" to any Ravenwing unit within 24inch!!!

I once had a game using Ironhand Medusa Strike Force against a DA force, charged a Ravenwing Black Knight with my CM smashbane and his command squad with a Librarian attached and he had a such formation right at 20 inch away. Holy XXX, 6 Assault Cannons and 5 Multimelta supporting fire hitting on 2s! All members in that squad goes down in the combined overwatch, even though they have 2+/3++/2+++ and 3++/3+++. All of them dead!

there BS 2 for overwatch?

That formation is in Lions blade Detachment (he is taking minimun Battle Demi Company), so it is full BS overwatch.

They would only be BS3 unless he took two BDCs.

Sounds like a glass hammer army - you can hit really hard, but are also very fragile. Sure, sometimes you'll hit so hard that your enemy will be unable to hit back, but often you won't have that luxury. So:
- Are there any funnies you can add (scenery/fortifications, force fields, psychic thingummies, whatever) to be more durable?
- Or can you spam enough relatively cheap units to overwhelm your opponent's shooting?

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

Neophyte2012 wrote:

 Formosa wrote:

Neophyte2012 wrote:
The Ravenwing Support Squadron is BEEEAAAST, I'd like to say if you run the formation alongside any Ravenwing units in other detachment.

Shrouded from Darkshroud, Strifen run and "support fire" to any Ravenwing unit within 24inch!!!

I once had a game using Ironhand Medusa Strike Force against a DA force, charged a Ravenwing Black Knight with my CM smashbane and his command squad with a Librarian attached and he had a such formation right at 20 inch away. Holy XXX, 6 Assault Cannons and 5 Multimelta supporting fire hitting on 2s! All members in that squad goes down in the combined overwatch, even though they have 2+/3++/2+++ and 3++/3+++. All of them dead!

there BS 2 for overwatch?

That formation is in Lions blade Detachment (he is taking minimun Battle Demi Company), so it is full BS overwatch.

They would only be BS3 unless he took two BDCs.

Just to clarify the rules.. Grim Resolve grants BS 2 Overwatch. A single battle demi-company outside of a Lion's Blade grants BS 3 Overwatch. A Lion's Blade has full BS Overwatch no matter if you have 1 or 2 BDCs. It is the free transports you need 2 BDCs for. Straight from the codex.