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Emicrania wrote: But than plaguebearers are ok to use as battle forged with DG or not?
Battle-forged yes, but taking them in the same detachment will mean that detachment does NOT get the death guard legion traits (e.g. Inexorable Advance) because it's not 100% made up of DEATH GUARD keywords. These are two different things. Battle-forged just means that everything is in a detachment of some kind and shares at least 1 keyword (e.g. CHAOS). However, to get the legion traits you need to have all models have <LEGION> (Death Guard, in this case) which plaguebearers in the same detachment would break.
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Hey guys, question.
I have been working on a fluffy Nurgle Daemon army mostly to practice some paint skills and such.
I'm loving the new DG and I would like to build a decent (doesn't need to be tournament winning) tac list combining the two.
I have 777 points of Nurgle Daemons, just as Papa Nurgle would want. Including:
Nurgle Daemon Prince
9 Nurglings
20 Plaugebearers
1 Herald
3 Plaugue Drones
I also just got the Dark Emprium DG set.
Being so new to DG and CSM in general, can anyone recommend what else I should look into to help and compliment my Nurgle's children list to 2k?
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Qlanth wrote: Is the PBC worth taking over a Helbrute who gets access to IA?
IA?
Inexorable Advance.
Ahhh. Well, in general I think the Crawler is better, the Helbrute has a niche role with a TwinLas + ML configuration combined with Fire Frenzy though. Problem with the Brutes is that they're too squishy for their cost, a Crawler can easily take double or even triple the punishment (depending on weapons used against it. Crawlers laugh at melta's) a Brute can before going down.
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Dew wrote: Hey guys, question.
I have been working on a fluffy Nurgle Daemon army mostly to practice some paint skills and such.
I'm loving the new DG and I would like to build a decent (doesn't need to be tournament winning) tac list combining the two.
I have 777 points of Nurgle Daemons, just as Papa Nurgle would want. Including:
Nurgle Daemon Prince
9 Nurglings
20 Plaugebearers
1 Herald
3 Plaugue Drones
I also just got the Dark Emprium DG set.
Being so new to DG and CSM in general, can anyone recommend what else I should look into to help and compliment my Nurgle's children list?
Can't have a DG army without Mortarion. Besides being strong on the tabletop it's also a very worthwhile painting project and an awesome looking model. If you're going for a lot of daemons you might want to look into Epidemius as well. Not entirely sure what to support Mortarion with that is not Warptime + Prescience though, looking into that as well. Maybe a Blighthauler might help with it's cover aura (provided Mortarion fits entirely within it's 7" aura). Deathshroud Terminators are also good if you find a way to get them into CC together with Mortarion.
Edit: Never mind the Blighthaulers, only infantry can benefit from it's cover aura and Morty counts as a monster.
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gwarsh41 wrote: I see a lot of people mentioning using blighthaulers in lists. What are you using as proxies?
I don't want to buy the model (I love the drones but I am bored by the same concept on ground) so I will try to build some biomechanic monstrosity using a bloat thrall from Cryx. Still unsure about the legs and size.
Generic characters disappearing? Elite units of your army losing options and customizations? No longer finding that motivation to convert?
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As to Poxwalkers vs Cultists two things. First I have 40 poxwalkers and no cultists. Second I build my list in such a way that if they are needed I can use the poxwalkers as anti horde. Granted in my meta I play against a lot of Nids and Orks... but I have had my poxwalkers do a lot of great work in all of my games, and that was before we could buff them as much as we can now.
Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 156pts]: 2x Entropy cannon, Heavy Slugger
Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 156pts]: 2x Entropy cannon, Heavy Slugger
Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 156pts]: 2x Entropy cannon, Heavy Slugger
++ Total: [109 PL, 2000pts] ++
The synergy between Myphitic Blight-hauler, typhus, surgeon, tallyman, poxwalkers and cultists is just insane if you use cloud of flies and the dead walk again stratagems. putrucent vitality is also great as well, but its not a must. i was practically unkillable. The foul blightspawn is also a must against CC armies like harlaquins. The army was slow as balls, but my enemy came to me, so problem solved. It was a crushing victory, he should have made me come to him.
The Crawlers were pretty mediocre. and the drones got focused hard.
The psychic powers are awesome espesially the curse of the leper against those T:3 harlequins.
Wanted to share a tactic I have been using often. It works at all points levels, but especially if you play smaller games without Mortarian.
I always have a bloat drone and daemon prince in my list and fly them directly towards my enemy. I always keep the drone slightly ahead with miasma making it harder to hit. People can’t target the prince since he is a character. Once I get closer to my enemy’s lines I deepstrike in my blightlords and Typhus behind my drone. I use “cloud of flies” on the blightlords. Now I suddenly have 5 killy units in my opponents face and he can’t shoot at any of them except for the bloat drone. The bloat drone with miasma is very durable and can soak up insane amounts of fire. Usually it never dies in a single turn to shooting.
This works well because of how fast the daemon prince and bloat drone are. The plague spitter drone version is ideal, because it is an assault weapon and can be 9” away continually melting units. If required the drone can then charge to tie up your opponents shooting units. They are just so tactically flexible.
Personaly i love running my plaguespitter drones straight into the middle of the enemy units. Jump them over the front line of troops and just park in amongst the enemy lines. Dont charge anything just sit and shoot. Then your oppenent has to either ignore them and take tons of damage or deal with them. If they shoot them it takes a lot of shooting to down one and when it dies just make it explode to deal mortal wounds to their gunline. Or if they charge then they have to weather all that auto hitting overwatch and if they kill it it goes boom, of they dont kill it just fall back and keep shooting.
I have taken out girlyman and his gunline buddies using this tactic with 3 drones
darthryan wrote: Personaly i love running my plaguespitter drones straight into the middle of the enemy units. Jump them over the front line of troops and just park in amongst the enemy lines. Dont charge anything just sit and shoot. Then your oppenent has to either ignore them and take tons of damage or deal with them. If they shoot them it takes a lot of shooting to down one and when it dies just make it explode to deal mortal wounds to their gunline. Or if they charge then they have to weather all that auto hitting overwatch and if they kill it it goes boom, of they dont kill it just fall back and keep shooting.
I have taken out girlyman and his gunline buddies using this tactic with 3 drones
Wow, nice. Didn't think of using that strategem on the drones.
In my case, the drones are always a target, so i might as well drive them in kamikaze style.
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darthryan wrote: Personaly i love running my plaguespitter drones straight into the middle of the enemy units. Jump them over the front line of troops and just park in amongst the enemy lines. Dont charge anything just sit and shoot. Then your oppenent has to either ignore them and take tons of damage or deal with them. If they shoot them it takes a lot of shooting to down one and when it dies just make it explode to deal mortal wounds to their gunline. Or if they charge then they have to weather all that auto hitting overwatch and if they kill it it goes boom, of they dont kill it just fall back and keep shooting.
I have taken out girlyman and his gunline buddies using this tactic with 3 drones
You should charge them into combat if you can (depending on if enemy unit is snooty). The reason be she got can force them to fall back and lose their shooting during their turn. In addition, since you fly you can always leave a combat you don’t want to be in and still shoot at whatever you want. Bloat drones are just amazing.
I've recently got a death Guard Contemptor from Forgeworld which I plan on converting up for my Death Guard force, any suggestions on what to arm it with??? I was planning on running either Butcher Cannon and Chainclaw or Ectoplasma Cannon and Chainclaw with Ectoplasm Blaster as both loadouts cost the same though which would be the better loadouts????? Shame Chaos Contemptors can't have twin Lascannons as I would easily take 3 in every game
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I have tried the Chaos Contemptors with a chain claw and regular claw, Soulburners under each and they have worked well for me. I like the extra mortal wounds.
On a modeling note, is it really hard to convert one of the plastic Contemptors from BaC into a Chaos one? I guess I'd still need to do something about the good weapons, though.
My armies (re-counted and updated on 11/1/23, including modeled wargear options):
Dark Angels: ~15000 Astra Militarum: ~1200 | Adeptus Custodes: ~1900 | Imperial Knights: ~2000 | Sisters of Battle: ~3500 | Leagues of Votann: ~1200 | Tyranids: ~2600 | Stormcast Eternals: ~5000
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Would like some advice on my list for the So Cal Open (ITC event). I've done a lot of playing and have nailed down two lists where the difference is between taking a plaguespitter drone or a larger special weapons plague marine squad with a rhino.
Here are the lists so you know the other things I am taking:
Basically it comes down to having a better chance to have an ob sec troop, with some shooting, make it to a mid field objective with a rhino versus footslogging a min squad up the field but taking the plaguespitter drone to compensate. I could also move the deredeo with the min squad so they get the 5++, giving them some protection.
Death Guard Battalion (looses inexorable advance and plague host, obj sec)
Sorcerer and Maulers are be taken from codex Chaos space marines, nurglings from DG codex.
All share the "Chaos" keyword
Sorcerer, mark of nurgle, forcestave Warptime, prescience
6d6 deaths head grenades str 3
1d6 hyper blight str 4 6+ stack mortal wounds
6d6 blight grenades str 4 and w 2 (blight bombardment)
Votlw +1 to all wound rolls
putrid has the 6+ mortal wounds to stack damage on top of his hyperblights 6+ stacking as well.
Reroll 1's
That is a heck of a lot of wounds and mortal wounds for a squad in 1 rhino!!!! and its quick!
also added bonus i imagine you can probably wipe a unit with nades and a charge, and if they charge you(foulspawn so it would be a bad idea), you can activate votlw and blight bombard again for:
9d6 blight nades and 1d6 hyperblights. again with all the goodies!!
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Anyone have any luck running an Assault heavy DG list? I really love the look of Deathshrouds, LoC, Typhus, and poxwalkers and kinda wanted to play a wall of melee death type list with some range support from PBC. Anyone else given it ago?
ZergSmasher wrote: On a modeling note, is it really hard to convert one of the plastic Contemptors from BaC into a Chaos one? I guess I'd still need to do something about the good weapons, though.
That depends on your greenstuff-fu, methinks. Can you sculpt boils or blobs of flesh spilling out of the dreadnought chassis, indicating that it's more flesh than machine? If not, you can always get Death Guard or Nurgle bits and symbols, and glue them all over. Weapons can always be painted as heavily rusted.
Haven't done these myself, just throwing out some ideas.
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ZergSmasher wrote: On a modeling note, is it really hard to convert one of the plastic Contemptors from BaC into a Chaos one? I guess I'd still need to do something about the good weapons, though.
My friend can't model or green stuff to save his life. What he ended up doing was attaching Nurglings all over it and painting it all rusted and grimy. Looks pretty good and I'll probably steal his idea.
Mr.Pengwinn wrote: Anyone have any luck running an Assault heavy DG list? I really love the look of Deathshrouds, LoC, Typhus, and poxwalkers and kinda wanted to play a wall of melee death type list with some range support from PBC. Anyone else given it ago?
I've ran a 2500pt list that is pretty punchy twice now with some good results. Once in a 3 player free for all with kill points, more recently in maelstorm. The list is as follows.
You get 2 assault fronts with the list. The first is Morty, DP and 3 plague spitters, all moving up the field quickly. Creating a nice high priority threat. Then you have the 2 blightlords and typhus dropping nearby with a buttload of melta spam and some nasty CC to worry about. I drop the blightlords in a conga line so 1 is within 3" of morty, and then the rest conga towards the enemy. Poxwalkers spread out to deny the enemy any back field deep strikes, forcing them into the mid field with your big fast chunk of death. Plagueburst pops shots at stuff and is a general annoyance. I love when it gets shot at, for it's points it is a great fire magnet.
I don't know about how meta competitive the list is, as I don't like tournaments, but its been super fun to have so many crazy durable models on the table that can bring serious pain. In the future I'll be trying more lists without mortarion, and more plague marines to see how well they do.
~15000 Astra Militarum: 
~1200 | Adeptus Custodes: 
~1900 | Imperial Knights: 
~2000 | Sisters of Battle: 
~1200 | Tyranids: 
~2600 | Stormcast Eternals: 
5500 points
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