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Hello!
I've played 40k for close to 20 years and only tried WFB a few times. AoS definitely had some things I like, streamlined play, really nice models, lots of variety...almost TOO much variety! Haha. So, I've been looking at pretty much every faction and sub-faction there is, and was actually drawn to the legendary Slambo, haha. I was curious if he can be used alongside the Slaves to Darkness start collecting set, and if not, how would I use him? So it'd be:
Sorcerer
Slambo
5 knights
10 warriors
Chariot

If I went this route, what would be a good move next? Anything? I'd be looking at casual play most likely, though I guess I wouldn't be opposed to trying tournaments, but I sorta need to learn the game first haha

Any suggestions would be appreciated!
Thanks!
-Z

Slambo can certainly be used with Slaves to Darkness.

What you have now amounts to 700 points (assuming you're using a Gorebeast Chariot). If you're planning on doing matched play, that leaves you with 300 points to go before you hit 1000 points, which is the first main points level that you'll find communities will float around.

The nice thing about Slaves is that they can go in pretty much any direction, so feel free to expand them however you'd like. You can keep going with the slaves, or you can start to reach out to god-specific units. Just keep in mind that if you do decide to branch out into other factions, your Chaos Knights no longer count as battle line, and you'll have to build to account for that.

Note that Slambo has the Exalted Champion of Chaos keyword, so he can be used in the Godsworn Champions of Ruin battalion, and with the SC kit, you're already there! As Fafnir said, you would need another 300 points to form a full 1000 point list, and the battalion costs 60, so you have another 240 points to spend. Consider a Chaos Warshrine. It's not part of the battalion, but their utility is hard to beat.

Thank too both for your replies, I appreciate the advice and confirming that what I had thought to do is a viable option! I actually went ahead and bought Slambo today!! So I've started down the path of glory! Haha

Does the chariot come with the option for horse or beast? And I'll be honest, I'm not sure what "being battleline" means yet. I figured I'd look to get the general's handbook once I got the Start Collecting set, once Slambo is painted and go from there. I honestly wouldn't mind getting some Beastmen, I've liked them forever, but always seemed too expensive to play in WFB.

Thanks again!
-Z

The Chariot should come with the options for both, yes.

"Battleline" is a designation for units. Basically, when engaging in matched play (that is, standard points-based play), your forces must be composed of a certain amount of units that count as battleline units. For example, a game of 1000 points or less requires 2 battleline units, while a game of 1000-2000 points requires 3. These battleline units effectively function as the 'core' or 'troops' options of WHFB or WH40k. They're either the core of which you build your army around, or the tax you pay to field everything else, depending on your perspective and your army.

Now, where things become interesting (and depending on how shafted your faction is, annoying) is what constitutes a battleline unit. While some units always count as battlelines, such as Chaos Warriors, others will only count as a battleline unit when specific conditions are met. For example, your Chaos Knights only count as a battleline when your entire army is from the Slaves to Darkness Faction. If you were to add a Bloodthirster to your army, then all of a sudden your Chaos Knights would no longer count as a battleline unit, and you'd have to fill that hole elsewhere.

 EnTyme wrote:
Note that Slambo has the Exalted Champion of Chaos keyword, so he can be used in the Godsworn Champions of Ruin battalion, and with the SC kit, you're already there! As Fafnir said, you would need another 300 points to form a full 1000 point list, and the battalion costs 60, so you have another 240 points to spend. Consider a Chaos Warshrine. It's not part of the battalion, but their utility is hard to beat.

I am not advocating not using Slambo in Godsworn Champions battalion outside matched play, but he can't replace an exalted champion in matched play since no Keywords are used in that battalion. You could however proxy Slambo without any problems as an exalted champion.

I agree with buying a War Shrine; great model and in game play. Also, if you like to convert, I would convert blood reavers as marauders - they are a very cheap, great "first wave" unit.

I have been running slave to darkness competitively for over a year now, If you need 300 pts filling, go for the manticore, the kit is made so that you can switch out the rider making it serve for the lord or sorcerer lord.

The warshrine is great, but my experience learned me that its potential only starts coming out in bigger games (2000-3000 range) focussing on marauders, warriors and chosen with its protective and boosting bubble. the chosen boosting the lot even further etc etc. and that is not where you are right now, in 1000 pts the manticore (both sorcerer or lord) is a beast and might be the extra push you need, and he will still be handy in bigger games.

I expanded first on more knights, and have 30 now. I run them in the ruinbringer formation in 5-10-10-5 or 5-10-5 with 2 chariots. Always with glaves. A lot of opponents will have dificulties with the speed and charge power that they come in with and well timed, that formation attack is really devastating.

Next to that it might also be good to look into Wulfrik the wanderer and some marauders. as his ability can make them pop up on any boardedge turn 2. Not that they are so powerfull, but really it can be a great disturbance giving you time to close in with your force or for tarpitting problems while you deal with the rest of the army. They can even take or contest objectives or provide an answer to artilery so that really is a versatile unit.

In 1000 pts I usually play:
1x 10 warriors (or another 5 knights with glaves)
1x chaos lord
2x 5 knights
Manticore (either one)
Godsworn champions of ruin battalion.

This is no cheese and not unbeatable but a powerfull list that can deal with most situations, and it is fast enough to make up for beginner mistakes in movement and it can take on all pitched battle plans.

Hopes this helped a bit.

Last Edition wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
Note that Slambo has the Exalted Champion of Chaos keyword, so he can be used in the Godsworn Champions of Ruin battalion, and with the SC kit, you're already there! As Fafnir said, you would need another 300 points to form a full 1000 point list, and the battalion costs 60, so you have another 240 points to spend. Consider a Chaos Warshrine. It's not part of the battalion, but their utility is hard to beat.

I am not advocating not using Slambo in Godsworn Champions battalion outside matched play, but he can't replace an exalted champion in matched play since no Keywords are used in that battalion. You could however proxy Slambo without any problems as an exalted champion.

I agree with buying a War Shrine; great model and in game play. Also, if you like to convert, I would convert blood reavers as marauders - they are a very cheap, great "first wave" unit.

Dear, while Entymes is wrong, so are you. Slambo's full name is: Slambo, Exalted Champion of chaos. You'd be hardpressed to come with a powerful enough argument as to not let me get an exalted champion of chaos.

Minisnatcher makes very valid points.

The only other thing I'd consider is your Chaos God Allegiance. Obviously for fluff reasons.. why not.

But taking a specific keyword can give you great army wide buffs!

Lord Kragan wrote:

Last Edition wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
Note that Slambo has the Exalted Champion of Chaos keyword, so he can be used in the Godsworn Champions of Ruin battalion, and with the SC kit, you're already there! As Fafnir said, you would need another 300 points to form a full 1000 point list, and the battalion costs 60, so you have another 240 points to spend. Consider a Chaos Warshrine. It's not part of the battalion, but their utility is hard to beat.

I am not advocating not using Slambo in Godsworn Champions battalion outside matched play, but he can't replace an exalted champion in matched play since no Keywords are used in that battalion. You could however proxy Slambo without any problems as an exalted champion.

I agree with buying a War Shrine; great model and in game play. Also, if you like to convert, I would convert blood reavers as marauders - they are a very cheap, great "first wave" unit.

Dear, while Entymes is wrong, so are you. Slambo's full name is: Slambo, Exalted Champion of chaos. You'd be hardpressed to come with a powerful enough argument as to not let me get an exalted champion of chaos.

From the Age of Sigmar FAQ

Q: How do you determine what models and units make up a warscroll battalion? When is it based on a keyword and when is it a unit name?

A: When a warscroll battalion is referring to a keyword, it appears in Keyword Bold. Otherwise, it is referring to the name of a unit.

Without an errata, 'Slambo' can not be used in place of an 'Exalted Champion of Chaos'.

I've got Slambo, my next stop will be the start collecting Slaves to Darkness kit, then probably stick with them for awhile, adding more warriors and/or knights. Should I get that far, haha, I think a warshrine might be a good reward, then the manticore? Down the road I could definitely get into Wulfrik and some Marauders. Any other suggestions? Is there a limit on character type models? Like having the Sorcerer and Slambo and the character on the manticore? I do like the chariots too...Lol so much to do...not enough time/money hahah
Not sure about a good at this point, is leaving them Undivided an option? Tzeentch does have a lot of nice new stuff these days....lol
Thanks again!
-Z

Lord Kragan wrote:

Last Edition wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
Note that Slambo has the Exalted Champion of Chaos keyword, so he can be used in the Godsworn Champions of Ruin battalion, and with the SC kit, you're already there! As Fafnir said, you would need another 300 points to form a full 1000 point list, and the battalion costs 60, so you have another 240 points to spend. Consider a Chaos Warshrine. It's not part of the battalion, but their utility is hard to beat.

I am not advocating not using Slambo in Godsworn Champions battalion outside matched play, but he can't replace an exalted champion in matched play since no Keywords are used in that battalion. You could however proxy Slambo without any problems as an exalted champion.

I agree with buying a War Shrine; great model and in game play. Also, if you like to convert, I would convert blood reavers as marauders - they are a very cheap, great "first wave" unit.

Dear, while Entymes is wrong, so are you. Slambo's full name is: Slambo, Exalted Champion of chaos. You'd be hardpressed to come with a powerful enough argument as to not let me get an exalted champion of chaos.

My apologies. I stand corrected I truly thought his unit name was just "Slambo".

Edit (after looking at his warscroll)
Well, looks like I have to correct myself again. He's warscroll name is in fact just "Slambo" and my early argument stands...

Last Edition wrote:

Lord Kragan wrote:

Last Edition wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
Note that Slambo has the Exalted Champion of Chaos keyword, so he can be used in the Godsworn Champions of Ruin battalion, and with the SC kit, you're already there! As Fafnir said, you would need another 300 points to form a full 1000 point list, and the battalion costs 60, so you have another 240 points to spend. Consider a Chaos Warshrine. It's not part of the battalion, but their utility is hard to beat.

I am not advocating not using Slambo in Godsworn Champions battalion outside matched play, but he can't replace an exalted champion in matched play since no Keywords are used in that battalion. You could however proxy Slambo without any problems as an exalted champion.

I agree with buying a War Shrine; great model and in game play. Also, if you like to convert, I would convert blood reavers as marauders - they are a very cheap, great "first wave" unit.

Dear, while Entymes is wrong, so are you. Slambo's full name is: Slambo, Exalted Champion of chaos. You'd be hardpressed to come with a powerful enough argument as to not let me get an exalted champion of chaos.

My apologies. I stand corrected I truly thought his unit name was just "Slambo".

It is.

 Ghaz wrote:

Last Edition wrote:

Lord Kragan wrote:

Last Edition wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
Note that Slambo has the Exalted Champion of Chaos keyword, so he can be used in the Godsworn Champions of Ruin battalion, and with the SC kit, you're already there! As Fafnir said, you would need another 300 points to form a full 1000 point list, and the battalion costs 60, so you have another 240 points to spend. Consider a Chaos Warshrine. It's not part of the battalion, but their utility is hard to beat.

I am not advocating not using Slambo in Godsworn Champions battalion outside matched play, but he can't replace an exalted champion in matched play since no Keywords are used in that battalion. You could however proxy Slambo without any problems as an exalted champion.

I agree with buying a War Shrine; great model and in game play. Also, if you like to convert, I would convert blood reavers as marauders - they are a very cheap, great "first wave" unit.

Dear, while Entymes is wrong, so are you. Slambo's full name is: Slambo, Exalted Champion of chaos. You'd be hardpressed to come with a powerful enough argument as to not let me get an exalted champion of chaos.

My apologies. I stand corrected I truly thought his unit name was just "Slambo".

It is.

Funny thing, they announced him as Slambo, exalted champion of chaos. Then changed the name of the model on store to just slambo, my bad. Still, for all intents and purposes he's a ECC, both in rules and keywords. I'd say most people would be fine with this kind of lee-way.

I would not deny anyone using Slambo in a game between friends, it would be good fun. But if playing against strangers or tournaments, I would use the Slambo model with the Exalted Champion rules.

Sorry, again brand new, does this mean that I can't use that group of models from the Slaves to Darkness set plus Slambo legally? Maybe for friendly play, but what about otherwise?

Thanks!
-Z

Otherwise it means Slambo can't replace an Exalted Champion of Chaos in battalions, but you can use Slambo with Slaves of Darkness as you wish outside of Battalions.

Hope that helps.

I feel like a dummy here, haha. I'm so accustomed to the force org. chart from 40k, I guess I'm not really sure how the force is laid out, whether there's a similar chart/layout or if it's just whatever you want to put into a previously agreed upon points limit. So, with that in mind, I'm not sure how these models fit together, just figured they might work since they're all Slaves to Darkness.
Sorry for the general ignorance. I don't actually know anyone who plays, so I'm a bit adrift here haha

-Z

Hehe okey.. let me translate this into 40k speak: Slambo cannot be included in any formation (as of yet), but can however be included as a normal HQ choice.

Go to www.warscrollbuilder.com to see force org in AoS

Last Edition wrote:
Hehe okey.. let me translate this into 40k speak: Slambo cannot be included in any formation (as of yet), but can however be included as a normal HQ choice.

Go to www.warscrollbuilder.com to see force org in AoS

Pretty much this.

Though it should be force orgs as the restrictions scale with the points.

So using the warscroll site, I get the impression that if I use Slambo the knights no longer count as battleline. Is this maybe because Slambo is newer? I dive want to negate what I'm doing right out of the gate! Haha

Hey I really appreciate all the feedback and suggestions in this thread, your guys have been great helping a total newb!

-Z

No, Zadkiel, your fine with that list. You can use knights as battleline.

You can use any unit/hero/monster/war machine with the keyword 'Slaves to Darkness' and use chaos knights as battleline.

What made you uncertain?