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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/27 21:17:27
Subject: [1500ish] - Necron - decurion list wip
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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(Reclamation legion)
Command barge phylactery, phase shifter, voidreaper, mindshackle scarabs- 215pt
Immortals x8 -136
2x10 Warriors Night scythe - 580
Tomb blade decked out x3 – 75
(aux unit)
X5 Flayed ones - 65
(Insert title)
Destroyer lord warscythe, phylactery, resorb, phase shifter, nightmare shroud - 195
Wraiths 2 whip coils-246
Annihilation barge - 120
All upgrades
It ends up 1636
what should i cut?
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/02/28 04:42:59
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/27 21:56:26
Subject: [1500ish] - Necron - decurion list wip
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Stalwart Space Marine
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A couple of things in no particular order. I'm a new to trying necrons myself so I hope all of this is right.....
The CCB is generally not a strong option. As a OL on foot can be more survivable with a unit.
Why do you have two HQ units? The DL can't be part of the decurion unless you take a destroyer cult, which you aren't because you don't have any destroyer units.
The Annihilation barge is also not part of any formation as it also isn't part of the Reclimation legion and you don't have the rest of the units needed for the Annihilation Nexus. Same goes for the Wraiths. If you want the run the Harvest you need a Spyder and Scarabs.
Bottom Line... your Reclimation Legion is legal, though the CCB is not the greatest HQ choice. And your decurion is legal with the Legion plus the Flayed ones..... But you have Wraiths and an Annihilation Barge that are not part of any formation.
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The Imperium of Man: White Scars - 1200, Raven Guard - 110 pts, Imperium - 550 pts
Tomb World: Nameless Dynasty - 270 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/27 22:30:04
Subject: [1500ish] - Necron - decurion list wip
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Irked Necron Immortal
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Your list is either a CAD or Unbound army right now, so you do not get any of the Decurion Bonuses at all. Remove Mindshackle scarabs - To many things are fearless these days. Destroyer lord, Wraiths and Annihilation Barge are out of place. Your Tomb Blades are over their max cost of 24 each. Based on the point total you gave I think might have put Nebuloscope AND Shadowloom on them when you can only have one of either of them per model. So dropping the Destroyer lord, Wraiths and Annihilation Barge and correcting your Tomb Blades will make the list a legal Decurion and give you more points to give all Wraiths Whips and put you closer to 1500
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2017/02/27 23:45:06
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/27 22:49:21
Subject: [1500ish] - Necron - decurion list wip
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Freaky Flayed One
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Draco765 wrote:Your list is only a CAD right now, so you do not get any of the Decurion Bonuses at all.
Remove Mindshackle scarabs - To many things are fearless these days.
Destroyer lord is out of place.
Your Tomb Blades are over their max cost of 24 each. Based on the point total you gave I think might have put Nebuloscope AND Shadowloom on them when you can only have one of either of them per model.
So dropping the D-Lord and Annihilation barge and correcting your Tomb Blades will make the list a legal Decurion and give you more points to give all Wraiths Whips and put you closer to 1500
The list would still be illegal, as wraiths cannot be a part of the Reclamation Legion. He'd have to include a spyder and at least 3 scarabs, to get the Canoptek Harvest formation.
Before you make an attempt at a new list, read up the 2 pages in the Rulesbook that explain list building/formations and then read through the pages in the Necron codex that explain how you make the Decurion. Making a legal list is essential, before we can make further comments.
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"After Aeons of slumber the Necrotyr awakend to harvest the galaxy anew... but realizing they will never be Ultramarines, the Necrotyr descended into stasis once more." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/27 23:25:26
Subject: [1500ish] - Necron - decurion list wip
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Stalwart Space Marine
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Draco765 wrote:Your list is only a CAD right now, so you do not get any of the Decurion Bonuses at all.
I'm confused.
The RL has the CCB, 2 units of warriors, 1 unit of immortals, and 1 unit of tomb blades. (tomb blades having the miscalculated loadout is a different problem)
And he has 1 unit of flayed ones as an Aux choice. So that makes a legal decurion.
It still doesn't fix the problem of the units without a detachment but the bones of the Decurion are there. What am I missing?
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The Imperium of Man: White Scars - 1200, Raven Guard - 110 pts, Imperium - 550 pts
Tomb World: Nameless Dynasty - 270 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/27 23:44:13
Subject: [1500ish] - Necron - decurion list wip
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Irked Necron Immortal
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Updated my first post, brain not working right... The Destroyer lord, Wraiths and Annihilation Barge, if taken outside of the Decurion, not part of the formations, makes the list an Unbound Army which still loses all the bonuses of the Decurion, but would keep the Reclamation Legion Formation bonuses. Taking the exact same things as a CAD would be a Bound Army list, letting the Warriors have Objective Secured.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/28 00:30:32
Subject: [1500ish] - Necron - decurion list wip
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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flayed ones count as an aux unit and i have the reclamation legion
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/02/28 00:35:20
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/28 00:42:33
Subject: [1500ish] - Necron - decurion list wip
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Irked Necron Immortal
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Is your goal to have the Decurion Bonus of +1 Detachment wide Reanimation Protocol?
As your list stands now, you don't have that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/28 01:12:11
Subject: [1500ish] - Necron - decurion list wip
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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why dont i... I have the legion formation and an aux unit those are the restrictions..... care to explain what makes it not work
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/02/28 01:13:45
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/28 01:56:01
Subject: Re:[1500ish] - Necron - decurion list wip
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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As stated before, everything is legal in the main reclamation legion, and adding the flayed ones makes it a legal decurion.
However,
You cannot just take additional units at will. To bring the wraiths in the Decurion, they need to be in a canoptek harvest (a formation) which includes a spyder and 3x scarab bases.
To include the destroyer lord in the decurion, he needs to be in a Destroyer Cult (a formation) which includes 3x 3 man squads of destroyers at minimum, with the option to add in 3 heavy destroyers.
To include the annihilation barge you needs to be in a formation too (i dont know the name as the anni barge is the worst unit in the codex IMO).
You can ally in a CAD to get the D/Lord without the destroyer cult (as its an expensive formation), but he needs 2x 5 man immortal squads. That will allow you to bring the wraiths and anni barge if you still want to.
That would look like this:
Rec Legion:
1x CCB w/ phase shifter, Phylactery (this is the only generally accepted place to take this as it benefits both the barge and O/Lord), warscythe
5x Immortals
10x Warriors w/ Night Scythe
10x Warriors w/ Night Scythe
3x Tomb blades w/ vanes & scopes
Aux:
5x Flayed ones
CAD:
1x D/Lord w/ phase shifter, nightmare shroud and warscythe
5x immortals
5x immortals
3x Wraiths w/ coils
1x Anni barge
This list is 1540, but you could save points by swapping the scythes for ghost arks (better option IMO)
MSS are extremely situational, as a result i hardly ever bother with them, as has been stated most armies are quasi fearless most of the time
Phylactery is only really good on the CCB
I prefer GA to NS, makes warriors more survivable/last longer, and provides a better shooting platform for them instead of dumping them where they need to be and removing all support from them. If you still want a flyer, give it to a squad of immortals.
Anni barges have never done anything for me, they would be good if they had skyfire, but they dont. So they put out an average amount of shots, but the poitns are better spent elsewhere.
The CCB, its personal. Lots of people dont like them, mine has been awesome when I take it. Just remember its your warlord, so if they have melta/specalist things that can kill vehicles it will blow up and give up slay the warlord (as your charging it into combat and not hiding it in squads of troops.
Best bet is to read how to make a legal list in the BRB, then read how to make the Decurion in the Necron codex. Also, download Battlescribe, its super handy and will tell you when you make errors.
Hope this helps!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/28 02:35:31
Subject: [1500ish] - Necron - decurion list wip
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Irked Necron Immortal
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shiny magikarp wrote:why dont i... I have the legion formation and an aux unit those are the restrictions..... care to explain what makes it not work In the Main rule book under Detachments it says that if any units are taken that are not part of a detachment, it forces the whole army to become Unbound and lose any Detachment Bonuses. The Destroyer lord, Wraiths and Annihilation Barge are not part of any detachment and causes your whole army to be come unbound. Formations still give bonuses though. But the Decurion is a Detachment. Klowny gives some good advice to help get it corrected so that you do gain the bonuses. And it is the Annihilation Nexus that is the Formation that has 2 Annhilation Barge combined with a Doomsday ark. (When the Doomsday ark loses it's Shield, it can steal it from one of the two Barges)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/28 03:44:37
Subject: Re:[1500ish] - Necron - decurion list wip
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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Oh I see that clears it up a lot, unfortunately it seems if i do wanna run a pure decurion and get those nutty rp i'm gonna have to spend some bucks
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/02/28 03:45:10
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/28 07:00:18
Subject: [1500ish] - Necron - decurion list wip
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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Don't rule out CAD's. Sure, its best to build up the Decurion you want first with the additional formations, but I've found lots of fun building random, less OP lists, like taking vehicle heavy Crons etc. We have are the jack of all trades army, can do almost anything you imagine, so have fun with it too!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/03/03 03:43:52
Subject: [1500ish] - Necron - decurion list wip
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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Can you still run royal courts w/o rec legion Automatically Appended Next Post: Can you still run royal courts w/o rec legion
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/03/03 03:44:02
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/03/03 04:28:39
Subject: [1500ish] - Necron - decurion list wip
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Irked Necron Immortal
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shiny magikarp wrote:Can you still run royal courts w/o rec legion
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Can you still run royal courts w/o rec legion
Yes, Royal Court is a Formation.
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