Arriving from Ongoing Reserves by Deep Strike

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**DarkPhoenix**

I got a question - if i have a flyer that arrives by Deep Strike, but then flies off the table next turn and enters Ongoing Reserves.
Can it arrive by Deep Strike again? Must it arrive by DS because it was originally in Deep Strike Reserve?

**Tristanleo**

No, ongoing reserves means that the flier must enter from your board edge in your next turn. you also must however remember that you have to move the minimum distance (18 inches) across the board otherwise your flier will crash and burn.

**mchammadad**

flyers no longer have the deep strike special rule.

You must come on from your table edge @ least 18" (extra if ur playing with DFTS)

**DarkPhoenix**

Its forgeworld flyer that do have Deep Strike in the 7e book.

Its said that flyer "dives" from the high altitide when doing so, so i dont see anything in "fluff" that prevents it to fly up and then dive again, but the rules tho - there is not thing that specifically prevents it, yet i cant seems to find anything that deals with such thing.

**Tristanleo**

Deep striking units are not part of the ongoing reserves rule, so they cannot redeploy via deepstrike from ongoing reserves. such as when a unit suffers a delay in deepstriking and is placed in ongoing reserves, they then arrive from your board edge automatically next turn.

**DarkPhoenix**

Is it different with Gate of Infinity or Malefic summonings?

**Tristanleo**

Depends on their wordings, I don't have those rules to hand to interpret.

**Charistoph**

Tristanleo wrote:
Deep striking units are not part of the ongoing reserves rule, so they cannot redeploy via deepstrike from ongoing reserves. such as when a unit suffers a delay in deepstriking and is placed in ongoing reserves, they then arrive from your board edge automatically next turn.

Nor are they excluded from the Ongoing Reserves rule for which units "always reenter play at the start of their controlling player’s following turn, but otherwise follow the normal rules for Reserves."

Your interpretation would also mean that a Deep Striking Unit which Mishaps would not be able to Deep Strike back on to the table, but have to walk on like regular Reserves.

**mchammadad**

the faq cleared this up. If you came in via deep strke and mishap into reserve then you come back via deep strike

If a entire unit has deep strike then they can come back from reserve via deep strike, but only if the whole unit has it, Note that transport vehicles that have deep strike apply it to the units inside the transport

**DarkPhoenix**

Thanks! Makes sense for flyer to work in the same manner.

**Charistoph**

mchammadad wrote:
the faq cleared this up. If you came in via deep strke and mishap into reserve then you come back via deep strike

Not entirely true. If you mishap on a Necron Veil or Mantle Deep Strike, you have to walk or Gateway on to the table unless the entire unit has Deep Strike (which the Mantle does not provide).

**rawne2510**

DarkPhoenix wrote:
Thanks! Makes sense for flyer to work in the same manner.

When you fly off the board you are in zooming mode. When a flyer DS it is in hover mode. Therefore you can´t deepstrike again because the rules when zooming off the baord require you to be in the same mode flying back on.

**DarkPhoenix**

rawne2510 wrote:
DarkPhoenix wrote:
Thanks! Makes sense for flyer to work in the same manner.

When you fly off the board you are in zooming mode. When a flyer DS it is in hover mode. Therefore you can´t deepstrike again because the rules when zooming off the baord require you to be in the same mode flying back on.

Except this flyer do not have hover mode...

Doom of Mymeara have rules on this tho

As well as arriving via the usual Reserves method, some Flyers also have the ability to deploy via Deep Strike, representing a vertical 'dive' onto the battlefield. If the Flyer in question has the Hover type, their controlling player must declare before the Deep Strike is attempted whether the Flyer is Zooming or being treated as a Fast Skimmer. If using Hover mode, the rules for Deep Strike apply as standard. If using Zooming Deep Strike, Flyers deploying via Deep Strike count as making a Zoom move and having moved at Cruising speed (18*) on the turn they arrive... (omitted)

That are tucked under the lynx profile for some reason...

**rawne2510**

Ok well that is an update then because the original one for Storm Eagles didn´t give you that option.

Either way if you are not given specific permission to go back in to deep strike reserve when you fly off then it would be normal board edge return.

Which flyer is this anyway.

**DarkPhoenix**

Eldar Nightwing Interceptor.
It is kind of important to make use of Corsair Kinetic Shroud wargear that gives substantial bonus on turn when flyer deep strikes. (wargear actually says "on turns", but i dont think that is adquate argument)